Paul Sykes... where is he now?...

[therealhustle]

[margaret thatcher]

jaws........boom boom boom boom

[Controversial]

Daddy of the year he wasn’t, unsurprisingly his kids are both inside for murder.

[high tower 1]

I think it was a guy who chinned him, who died after a later fight. Ngozika Ekwelum

How Sykes has turned out reminds me a bit of a once talented early 1980's lightweight, Graham Brett, who was managed by allegedly.

Brett's pro record isnt impressive, but he never ever trained. He could have won at least a British Title. He was a tremendous amatuer, winning 95 of 104 fights. He trained on fags and beer, was always knocking people out in pubs, but never put on weight. He was 6'1, made 135 easily, had very fast hands and hit like a mule.

I used to spar with him when he turned pro, I was only 15, he had the reflexes of a cat. IMO he was and is a gentleman.

About six or seven years ago he was found not guilty of running a protection racket in Pimlico, SW London. The CPS spent over £1m, trying to put him away. Allegedly he is banned from every pub in central London.

He's not a degenerate like Sykes is now. Indeed ply's his trade as an electrician, but he is always drinking and still Knocking out blokes in pubs.
He still has really fast hands and can bang at the age of 42. He still weighs less than 10 stone.

I'd imagine allegedly would remember him well. Brett's life would make a GREAT book.

I knew Graham growing up around Pimlico. On occasion he'd train with us at Westminster boxing club at the time. Actually a nice guy down the gym when he wasn't loaded on booze and drugs. He was notorious for causing trouble in pubs around the area barred from near enough every one. He was an opportunist.. Soon ashe heard a pub came under new management he'd rock up there play nice for a few weeks then his true colours would shine through. He never discriminated against who he'd start trouble with, wether or not it might mean intimidating a female bar staff by throwing an ice bucket at her for example. His ego was out of control.. Nobody really liked him they just tolerated him as they knew how volatile he was when loaded on booze and drugs. I think he had the potential to be a nice guy actually.. But his ego overwhelmed that. As for a book? He was hardly rise of the foot soldier material. Not exactly an Al Capone in Pimlico. More a general nuisance thug that people tried to steer clear of, not of importance for a best selling novel for sure. He did start a boxing club up in Churchill gardens which was starting to gain success.. Helped a few young lads out but then the booze took over again. He was convicted in 2012 for manslaughter after knocking a guy out outside the greyhound pub in pimlico... The guy he targeted was a harmless Teddy bear. This was usually his style. He cracked him the poor guy went down and died of injuries from cracking his head on the pavement 5 days later. He showed no remorse for it during sentencing.. Instead almost pride in being the bully he was. Like I say would I spend time and effort writing a book about him? It's hardly going to sell up there with the likes of the Essex boys etc.. He was a one man band out of control who never really had the intelligence to make it in the criminal hall of fame. People never liked him but his ego got a kick out of people fearing him.. A highly insecure individual with alcohol and drug addiction. Imagine what his life could have been like had his insecurities, ego and addiction problems not have been prsent? He was a talented young ametuer boxer who never took his professional career seriously for sure.. He could have gone places I'd say. But he didn't.. He chose instead to follow a path of intimidating people he saw lesser than himself in the hardstakes outside the ring which landed him in jail time after time after time. His ego was far more important to him than getting on in life. He'll be nearly 60 now.. Time for him to start living a quiet life before he ends up in a pub and meets a 25 year old with the same ego and mentality as himself who takes exception to him.. Some might call that Karma?

Great post and thanks for the info.

[high tower 1]

I don't reckon ruling with a reign of fear in Pimlico is a huge achievement.

Saying that the fella used to post on hear, and seemed reasonable enough

Wouldn’t hurt a fly

[margaret thatcher]

wot was grahams user name

[punchers chance]

wot was grahams user name

Graham Brett

[margaret thatcher]

thx

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[Supermiddle]

I think when he wasn't fuelled on booze and coke he was a completely different person. Addiction takes control of the best of us. Sykes is a prime example of it also. John Conteh another one.. The list is endless actually for talented boxers who finished up that way. Such a shame.

[bennie]

I remember Graham Brett from his fighting days (in the ring) because he was really tall for his weight (around 9st 4lbs). I particularly remember him for a bad beating he took in one of his four pro fights, which seemed to knock a lot of the spirit out of him.
In his debut in April 1983, he was very aggressive and overwhelmed a man in three rounds after throwing a ton of punches. It was a bright start but then came a Croydon man by the name of Charlie Coke and a fight that should have been stopped much sooner than it was. Southpaw Graham started aggressively again and dropped Coke in the opener with a right hook but Coke jumped up and stayed with him and really took over from the fourth round. He couldn't miss Graham with right hands but referee Roy Francis let it go on and on until Graham, who looked exhausted, was inevitably floored in the sixth and final round, half-falling through the ropes. Coke then hit him on the floor. That possibly distracted Francis because the fight desperately needed to be stopped but, after warning Coke, Francis waved it on and Coke teed off with several unanswered head shots before Francis did finally step in.
Graham came back a few months later on the Mark Kaylor-Roy Gumbs show at the Ally Pally against Manchester survivor John Mwaimu and punched out low-key points win. His final fight came against Bradford's Kenny Walsh in Southend when he was thrown out after he answered back to referee Paddy Sower, who had warned him for holding.

[coneye]

Sykes , mother said in the doco ,, he's a bad en , can't get more honest than that ,, he was'nt intelligent , he was thick has pig poo , NO intelligent man , acts like he did , goes debt collecting for a slimy wanna be with a cigar in his mouth , He was a thug and a bully , people where he lived feared him not repected him , his familly were scared of him , and i can't think of a way more fitting for him to end up , a blaberring mess , lay stinking and smelling of booze and piss in the street , for me he was lucky ,,, Lucky he did'nt get a bullet in the head from one of his victims ,

The intelligence he had was'nt intelligence it was from reading , met many many crims who think there intelligent , when there not theve just read all the books in prison when theve nothing else to do , If they were intelligent , they would'nt be there , and definetly not for poultry stuff , and they would be sending the debt collectors out , not going out collecting for a few measly quid ,, he was was what he was , a violent pisshead bully , who picked his mark ,, he knew who the real gangsters were , but never crossed them , he just beat his wife and kids , people he knew he could beat , and scared his own mother and father , they were petrified of him .

[Supermiddle]

When he wasn't around his mates.. Who looked at him as the alpha male.. And not loaded on booze and drugs.. He was always very reasonable. Actually charming at times.. If only he knew that side of him would have gained him more friends than the other side of him. Or loaded on booze and drugs. You could have alot of time for Graham when he wasn't loaded. Otherwise steer clear.. Just trouble some people are just like that. Reasonable? Absolutely he was.. Get him in a conversation outside of the pub sober.. Most reasonable guy you'll meet.. Get a few pints and and few lines in him.. Get his pack around him.. Its like watching the hulk change lol.. No reasoning then lol

[THEBUTCH]

coneye, are you saying Sykes was a nasty man ? You seem to be fence sitting

[Old bones Ian]

Wasn't he a complete nonce inside?

[Wee Tommy]

Wasn't he a complete nonce inside?

There’s stories he used to run about for/with Saville. I’m sure it’s Peter Fury said he was a serious nonce in jail, but still very hard

[high tower 1]

Wasn't he a complete nonce inside?

There’s stories he used to run about for/with Saville. I’m sure it’s Peter Fury said he was a serious nonce in jail, but still very hard

Fook never heard he was savilles muscle. What an awful thought , them two together.

Yeah I heard on one of these forums he’d pick on and bum young green lads in jail. Total weapon of a man.

[Old bones Ian]

Wasn't he a complete nonce inside?

There’s stories he used to run about for/with Saville. I’m sure it’s Peter Fury said he was a serious nonce in jail, but still very hard

Yeah theres no way I'd of said that to his face inside, but seen a few stories over the years about it.

I always wonder with these type of blokes, they get by with being bullies and thugs, they always seem on edge, always waiting for it.
What a way to live, it's almost homo erotic with them, they crave Male company.
They need to be bigged up by men at every opportunity, always looking for something.

When they get older they suddenly realise that they aren't able to get away with it, a lot end up with mental health issues, bodies done in with steroids, backs and legs gone. Still having to do this hardman persona but really inside petrified some youngun is going to put them on their arse.

[Nightmare Roy]

Sykes , mother said in the doco ,, he's a bad en , can't get more honest than that ,, he was'nt intelligent , he was thick has pig poo , NO intelligent man , acts like he did , goes debt collecting for a slimy wanna be with a cigar in his mouth , He was a thug and a bully , people where he lived feared him not repected him , his familly were scared of him , and i can't think of a way more fitting for him to end up , a blaberring mess , lay stinking and smelling of booze and piss in the street , for me he was lucky ,,, Lucky he did'nt get a bullet in the head from one of his victims ,

The intelligence he had was'nt intelligence it was from reading , met many many crims who think there intelligent , when there not theve just read all the books in prison when theve nothing else to do , If they were intelligent , they would'nt be there , and definetly not for poultry stuff , and they would be sending the debt collectors out , not going out collecting for a few measly quid ,, he was was what he was , a violent pisshead bully , who picked his mark ,, he knew who the real gangsters were , but never crossed them , he just beat his wife and kids , people he knew he could beat , and scared his own mother and father , they were petrified of him .

Never ends well for these types, as you say he got off lightly, it’s ok being a hard man bully but the next generation are always more fearless and deadly.

[Old bones Ian]

I had a guy like this once , I was about 20 years old , weighed 10st wet. Was on a stag do and we were in a local pub , there were a few doorman type there , we were having a laugh and I jumped on my mates back just in jest, some beer landed on on of these guys, just a splash and they went for us. I got cracked on the jaw which I felt go, we got out the pub with these bullies still going at us, none of my mates look for trouble ,but actually can handle themselves. So we went down the road, my jaw was broke and i couldn't open my mouth that much. Stayed out the night and hospital next day in pain, had OP etc

Anyway fast forward 26 years , 2 years ago at a local festival, there was this bully still trying the hard man act , puffer jacket on. At one of the bars my mate spoke to him and reminded him of the story , he came over laughing and said hows your jaw, I laughed back and said all good still clicks, but I stayed on my feet and enjoyed my night out still.

Couple of hours later I felt this person come right up behind me and say " I could put you on your arse if you take the piss out of me again " I turned and there was the bully with his mate, offended that I had dared to question his punching power.

I found that funny and sad at the same time, just the fact that he thought I'd challenged his manhood, there was thousands that could batter him, but he still had to be the bullshit bully.

[Black Sam Bellamy]

What have any of these tough guys contributed to society and life in general ? Fark all. People still seem to love talking about them. Don't get it.

[Steveh583]

these hard men that let it define their life....each and every one of them has been fingered by their dad. how people cant see this is beyond me.

[Controversial]

Wasn't he a complete nonce inside?

Are you talking about Sykes or Brett?

[Old bones Ian]

Wasn't he a complete nonce inside?

Are you talking about Sykes or Brett?

Sykes

[Controversial]

Wasn't he a complete nonce inside?

Are you talking about Sykes or Brett?

Sykes

Ah ok, never heard that before but wouldn't surprise me.

[JimJim2009]

anyone know whereabouts in lupset he lived ? it's about a mile down the road from me. big sprawling council estate, fair bit of poverty there.