Unknown prospects worth watching ?

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Looking for advices :box: Looking for some unknown prospects worth watching in future :box:
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Any particular limits you want to set on this? (weight for example) or just a huge of guys to keep an eye on?
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Talavera bros looked great last night
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Fiodor Czerkaszyn - he will, most likely, make his USA debut next year :TU:
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Pavel Silyagin - super middleweight. He was a top amateur . World championship Bronze medalist and European Games Gold medalist, and was 10-1 in the WSB.. including beating Oleksandr Khyhzniak (p4p number 1 amateur) and Joshua Buatsi.

But for some reason as a pro he's totally under the radar.
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i cheked out fiodir after you made a thread about him dag + when he stopped usually unstoppable pat mendy, defo a promising one, hope he's moved well and doesnt stagnate
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margaret thatcher wrote: 09 Nov 2020, 19:07 i cheked out fiodir after you made a thread about him dag + when he stopped usually unstoppable pat mendy, defo a promising one, hope he's moved well and doesnt stagnate
His trainer (with whom he really wants to continue his career) is going to leave the promotional stable Czerkaszyn is signed with but I hope that they will solve it out. Fiodor had a right hand surgery in June, but he is back to sparrings since last month.

It was planned that he will fight in December vs an mediocre opponent, then one more time vs someone better next year in Poland and then they will make him go to USA but seems like the December fight is not going to happen - the ''pandemic'' f*cks everything up. Also, Głowacki and Szeremeta have important abroad fights in December - all of them work with the same trainer Fiodor Łapin, so now he obviously have to fully concentrate on them (though Czerkaszyn went with them to a training camp in Spain last month as well, he is a good sparring partner for Szeremeta before the Golovkin fight).
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Andrew Cain
Louie Lynn
Ivan Price
Dylan Charrat
Mathieu Bauderlique
Yauheni Dauhaliavets
Shakhabas Makhmudov
Vyacheslav Barsukov
Oganes Ustyan
Vasily Voytsekhovsky
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Toshiya Ishii- 19 year old out of japan, fighting credible opponents already
Michel Rivera - his ceiling is probably below lineal champ level, but I expect him to perform in big fights if given the chance
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Cent0089 wrote: 14 Oct 2020, 03:29 Looking for advices :box: Looking for some unknown prospects worth watching in future :box:

A few times when allegedly have shown a GoldenGloves promotion from Emperor's Palace in South Africa I have been impressed with Jamlblani Mackenzie.
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A few MTK fighters that look very good early on:
Lewis Crocker - welterweight
Danny Dignum - middleweight
Paddy Donovan - welterweight
Dennis McCann - bantamweight
Sean McComb - super lightweight
Michael McKinson - welterweight
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adobson15 wrote: 12 Nov 2020, 11:59 A few MTK fighters that look very good early on:
Lewis Crocker - welterweight
Danny Dignum - middleweight
Paddy Donovan - welterweight
Dennis McCann - bantamweight
Sean McComb - super lightweight
Michael McKinson - welterweight
Mccann and Donovan are the real deal - excellent prospects. Dignum, Mccomb are good too. But I don't think Crocker or Mckinson get past domestic level.
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Boxing Prospect wrote: 14 Oct 2020, 05:13 Any particular limits you want to set on this? (weight for example) or just a huge of guys to keep an eye on?
Here's an idea for you.
Name your favourite prospects who AREN'T from the Asia continent :OhYes: :TU:
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I should've wrote the guy's name down,he was on Channel 69(FSN) just a lil while ago,on the Loma-Lopez undercard.
He came into his bout that night with a 15-0 record,all wins by Ko,and all first round Ko's ! And yeah,he Tko'd his
opponent that night,in the first round. He's in the 168(SMW Division). He's a swarmer type stylist,as one would figure,by that freakish record. :bag:
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Cent0089 wrote: 14 Oct 2020, 03:29 Looking for advices :box: Looking for some unknown prospects worth watching in future :box:
the Mckenna brothers Aaron and Stevie McKenna
jake pettitt
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AngryGoon38 wrote: 18 Nov 2020, 15:40 I should've wrote the guy's name down,he was on Channel 69(FSN) just a lil while ago,on the Loma-Lopez undercard.
He came into his bout that night with a 15-0 record,all wins by Ko,and all first round Ko's ! And yeah,he Tko'd his
opponent that night,in the first round. He's in the 168(SMW Division). He's a swarmer type stylist,as one would figure,by that freakish record. :bag:
Edgar Berlanga
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Yes ! Thanks So Much ! :TU: :salut:
That Guy is Really something Aye ?! :clap: :box:
He's a Swarmer type. Not Fast,like a typical Swarmer,but rather Sort of Ploddy actually,but VERY VERY Heavy Handed.
Traditionally,swarmers are quicker,but that's his approach. I guess he's a SteamRoller type of Style "Swarmer",reminicent of a Young George Foreman i'd say.
But yeah,This Berlanga Cat Just goes right in for Broke,with obviously No Fear of retaliation. I just wonder how he'll take punches once he's in there with someone that's Fast and Strong Enough to Really Retaliate. His last opponent just looked flat out overmatched,even though he seemed, from the outset,more capable then the previous Victims of Berlanga.
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-Justis Huni
-David Morrell
-Zhanibek Alimkhanuly

+ Any of the mid 20s undefeated Uzbekistani, they seem to be pretty good right now..
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Stanny Onis wrote: 18 Nov 2020, 13:11
adobson15 wrote: 12 Nov 2020, 11:59 A few MTK fighters that look very good early on:
Lewis Crocker - welterweight
Danny Dignum - middleweight
Paddy Donovan - welterweight
Dennis McCann - bantamweight
Sean McComb - super lightweight
Michael McKinson - welterweight
Mccann and Donovan are the real deal - excellent prospects. Dignum, Mccomb are good too. But I don't think Crocker or Mckinson get past domestic level.
Ironic that Donovon's alias is 'Real Deal' then but I agree that McCann and himself would be the most likely to get to world level, however they are both VERY young so shouldn't be rushed too much. Mckinson is a bit of an unknown quantity until he takes a bigger step up, I would like to see him face someone like Paddy Gallagher and that should be a good indication of where he is at and how far he could go.
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Stanny Onis wrote: 18 Nov 2020, 13:12
Boxing Prospect wrote: 14 Oct 2020, 05:13 Any particular limits you want to set on this? (weight for example) or just a huge of guys to keep an eye on?
Here's an idea for you.
Name your favourite prospects who AREN'T from the Asia continent :OhYes: :TU:
Would assume by "unknown prospects" we shouldn't be talking about guys that are getting ESPN, PBC, and Sky coverage. They seem more known than folk like Thitisak Hoitong, Tuguldur Byambatsogt, Yudai Shigeoka, Ryutaro Nakagaki and Rentaro Kimura.

Outside of Asia I really like Ukraine's Zoravor Petrosian, a former youth amateur standout, Justis Huni is a Heavyweight a lot of people think very highly of and debuted in a 10 rounder, Dylan Charrat has impressed in his last 2 (TKO wins over Johan Perez and Dmitry Mikhaylenko) and has clearly learned from his draw, Edwin Valentin certainly looks like one to watch from Puerto Rico, as does Victor Padilla.

Over in South Africa Sivenathi Nontshinga is one to watch, and he'll be in the world title conversation very quickly.

Going to be interested in how Lunga Stimela does next time out, a massive step up to take on Fuzile, but if he wins that he should be in every one of these conversations

Always a little bit funny on Russian prospects as they seem to have a high number fall short, but Khariton Agrba and Albert Batyrgaziev are two to watch

Serhii Bohachuk will be getting a lot of attention after his next fight
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Boxing Prospect wrote: 19 Nov 2020, 09:03
Stanny Onis wrote: 18 Nov 2020, 13:12
Boxing Prospect wrote: 14 Oct 2020, 05:13 Any particular limits you want to set on this? (weight for example) or just a huge of guys to keep an eye on?
Here's an idea for you.
Name your favourite prospects who AREN'T from the Asia continent :OhYes: :TU:
Always a little bit funny on Russian prospects as they seem to have a high number fall short, but Khariton Agrba and Albert Batyrgaziev are two
I would say the Japanese prospects you hype fail more often, especially above featherweight 99% of japs turn to be not good enough.

Anyway , interesting to see your views outside of your speciality cause you seem to almost solely focus on Asia :TU:

Some prove to not be good enough but a big reason for Russian prospects not achieving their potential is lack of opportunity, lack of dates, etc. A lot of them turn pro late then only fight once a year. The talent is definitely there. Artem Chebotarev for example was one of the best prospects in all of boxing imo and he hasn't fought in years, so I'm assuming he's got fed up of lack of opportunity and retired to work a normal job, this happens a lot. I have good prospects such as Aleksei Mazur, Sergey Lubkovich, Sadam Magomedov on my watchlist but they rarely ever fight.
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Stanny Onis wrote: 20 Nov 2020, 11:38
Boxing Prospect wrote: 19 Nov 2020, 09:03
Stanny Onis wrote: 18 Nov 2020, 13:12
Here's an idea for you.
Name your favourite prospects who AREN'T from the Asia continent :OhYes: :TU:
Always a little bit funny on Russian prospects as they seem to have a high number fall short, but Khariton Agrba and Albert Batyrgaziev are two
I would say the Japanese prospects you hype fail more often, especially above featherweight 99% of japs turn to be not good enough.

Anyway , interesting to see your views outside of your speciality cause you seem to almost solely focus on Asia :TU:

Some prove to not be good enough but a big reason for Russian prospects not achieving their potential is lack of opportunity, lack of dates, etc. A lot of them turn pro late then only fight once a year. The talent is definitely there. Artem Chebotarev for example was one of the best prospects in all of boxing imo and he hasn't fought in years, so I'm assuming he's got fed up of lack of opportunity and retired to work a normal job, this happens a lot. I have good prospects such as Aleksei Mazur, Sergey Lubkovich, Sadam Magomedov on my watchlist but they rarely ever fight.
I can't remember the last Japanese above Featherweight that I would have hyped, Yoshino maybe? Flat out gave Nakatani and Takeshi Inoue no chance in the big bouts in the US. Didn't expect much of Okada, don't expect much of Hiraoka, Ito managed to win a world title.

I like prospects where we know if they are all that in 4 or 5 years, not 8 or 9.

At those higher weights it's the Uzbeks and Kazakhs that are more interesting (Tulaganov, Madrimov, Melikuziev, Sadriddin Akhmedov, Jalolov)

Chebotarev looked great in the amateurs, shame he never made the most of it... Like the guy Top Rank had a few years ago (Olympic gold medal winner, name escapes me at the moment but he did retire), expected huge things of Khytrov and he's failed to shine...

Being in the UK British prospects bore the ass out of me, they all tend to tread water for far, far too long. Buatsi looks good though, and Kash Farooq looks talented, but I don't see gin reaching the top due to a lack of power (compared him to Paul Butler recently, good but not genuine world class).
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Agree about Paddy Donovan :TU:
Oddly, I found out about him when doing some research on Paddy Donovan (New Zealand Empire and Commonwealth bronze medalist boxer) and was impressed.
For a young guy, he seems to be a thinking boxer, and very relaxed. Eddie will hopefully get hin the opportunities in time.
This was his last outing :
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KiwiRider wrote: 20 Nov 2020, 15:44 Agree about Paddy Donovan :TU:
Oddly, I found out about him when doing some research on Paddy Donovan (New Zealand Empire and Commonwealth bronze medalist boxer) and was impressed.
For a young guy, he seems to be a thinking boxer, and very relaxed. Eddie will hopefully get hin the opportunities in time.
This was his last outing :

That must be one of the most one sided bouts seen in recent times.

Desmond 'the DEStroyer' Newton had no business being in the same ring as Paddy 'the real deal' Donovan.

They will need to find far more elusive bodies than Newton for Donovan to get in some vital experience against.

So far, so great.
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Boxing Prospect wrote: 20 Nov 2020, 14:47
Stanny Onis wrote: 20 Nov 2020, 11:38
Boxing Prospect wrote: 19 Nov 2020, 09:03
Always a little bit funny on Russian prospects as they seem to have a high number fall short, but Khariton Agrba and Albert Batyrgaziev are two
I would say the Japanese prospects you hype fail more often, especially above featherweight 99% of japs turn to be not good enough.

Anyway , interesting to see your views outside of your speciality cause you seem to almost solely focus on Asia :TU:

Some prove to not be good enough but a big reason for Russian prospects not achieving their potential is lack of opportunity, lack of dates, etc. A lot of them turn pro late then only fight once a year. The talent is definitely there. Artem Chebotarev for example was one of the best prospects in all of boxing imo and he hasn't fought in years, so I'm assuming he's got fed up of lack of opportunity and retired to work a normal job, this happens a lot. I have good prospects such as Aleksei Mazur, Sergey Lubkovich, Sadam Magomedov on my watchlist but they rarely ever fight.
I can't remember the last Japanese above Featherweight that I would have hyped, Yoshino maybe? Flat out gave Nakatani and Takeshi Inoue no chance in the big bouts in the US. Didn't expect much of Okada, don't expect much of Hiraoka, Ito managed to win a world title.

I like prospects where we know if they are all that in 4 or 5 years, not 8 or 9.

At those higher weights it's the Uzbeks and Kazakhs that are more interesting (Tulaganov, Madrimov, Melikuziev, Sadriddin Akhmedov, Jalolov)

Chebotarev looked great in the amateurs, shame he never made the most of it... Like the guy Top Rank had a few years ago (Olympic gold medal winner, name escapes me at the moment but he did retire), expected huge things of Khytrov and he's failed to shine...

Being in the UK British prospects bore the ass out of me, they all tend to tread water for far, far too long. Buatsi looks good though, and Kash Farooq looks talented, but I don't see gin reaching the top due to a lack of power (compared him to Paul Butler recently, good but not genuine world class).
It's gonna be interesting to see how well the Kazakh and Uzbek prospects will do. I think there will be mixed results with them.

You probably mean Egor Mekhonstev..

I think the Brit prospects with the highest ceiling are Dennis Mccann, Willy Hutchinson and Ivan Price. And over in Ireland Arron Mckenna, and Paddy Donovan.
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