Round-by-Round: Conor Benn vs. Sebastian Formella - 21 November 2020

[BigDoofus]

I didn’t realise Gill had pulled out of British title fight - who was he meant to go up against?

Reece Mould

[maverick23]

I didn’t realise Gill had pulled out of British title fight - who was he meant to go up against?

Reece Mould

Ah right. Looks like Mould willing be fighting Leigh Wood next on a Matchroom show for the British title.

[handsofstone]

Jenkins was made several offers for the Benn fight, each one improved after the last, by all accounts Jenkins, Gary Lockett and his team were over the moon with the offer, Warren wouldnt allow it which frustrated Jenkins no end, even more so that he hasn't been given another fight in the meantime, Benn made the right move by taking on Formella, I feel sorry for Jenkins, a win over Benn would love opened some serious doors, looks at the cult status Fitzgerald got after beating Fowler

According to the BBBofC Benn withdrew from the contest (not Jenkins).

Because he didnt want to wait until next year, Benn was up for it this year, Warren wasnt,

[CaptainSpacerod]

Benn is getting praise as he looked levels above a guy who went the distance with genuinely world class Porter and so it follows that Benn is better than we thought maybe

Not for me. Benn could do pretty much as he wished safe in the knowledge that Seb couldn’t hurt him - a lot of guys can look god in fights like that. The real question here is how Seb got to share the ring with an elite level guy like Porter- or maybe he took such a beat down in that fight that he’s lost some of what he had.

[BigDoofus]

Because he didnt want to wait until next year, Benn was up for it this year, Warren wasnt,

Have you a link to Warren saying this?

[maverick23]

Because he didnt want to wait until next year, Benn was up for it this year, Warren wasnt,

Have you a link to Warren saying this?

I saw an interview with FW a couple of months back saying that as he wasn’t included on the offers (they were sent to Jenkins’ management) the offers weren’t accepted. I think it was on an IFL interview.

Hearn said afterwards that Andy Ayling had now received the offer too (which was then improved upon) but they didn’t hear back.

Will be interesting to see the next interview with Chris Jenkins interview.

[handsofstone]

Because he didnt want to wait until next year, Benn was up for it this year, Warren wasnt,

Have you a link to Warren saying this?

Nah but I've not seen him or Team Jenkins deny it so I'm inclined to believe Hearn

[mickey1975]

Why not let it go to bids?

[Ruthless-RKO]

Benn said he beat Formella more convincingly than Porter did.

Oooooook...

[maverick23]

Why not let it go to bids?

As a few people have said, if it goes to bids then he doesn’t fight this year and given how long he’d been out it’s understandable that he wanted to fight.

They made Jenkins vs Essuman instead abs there’s no sign of when that’ll be yet.

[BigDoofus]

Why not let it go to bids?

As a few people have said, if it goes to bids then he doesn’t fight this year and given how long he’d been out it’s understandable that he wanted to fight.

They made Jenkins vs Essuman instead abs there’s no sign of when that’ll be yet.

A poster on a boxing forum said it doesn't happen this year. FW has got 2 shows coming up. I haven't seen him saying he wouldn't have put it on.
Hearn could have tried to win the bid and put in on before Xmas.

[BigDoofus]

Because he didnt want to wait until next year, Benn was up for it this year, Warren wasnt,

Have you a link to Warren saying this?

Nah but I've not seen him or Team Jenkins deny it so I'm inclined to believe Hearn

Why can't Benn fight him next?

[maverick23]

Why not let it go to bids?

As a few people have said, if it goes to bids then he doesn’t fight this year and given how long he’d been out it’s understandable that he wanted to fight.

They made Jenkins vs Essuman instead abs there’s no sign of when that’ll be yet.

A poster on a boxing forum said it doesn't happen this year. FW has got 2 shows coming up. I haven't seen him saying he wouldn't have put it on.
Hearn could have tried to win the bid and put in on before Xmas.

The purse bid said the fight would have had to happen by the end of Feb 2021. We know it didn’t happen, was replaced by Jenkins vs Essuman and that won’t take place this year. Frank has a couple of shows left this year as you say but he isn’t spending much money on his undercard next week (understandably given the main event) and I’d be very surprised if he’d have been able to afford another British title fight on the December 5th show. If he could then why hasn’t he put on the Jenkins vs Essuman fight?

The purse bids were called for mid October which would have given them 5 weeks to show yesterday. Warren/Jenkins’ team could have argued that wasn’t long enough and wanted to wait for the new year.

I can’t really begrudge Benn taking the fight last night, he looked great and will, unfortunately for us, say he’s ahead of Jenkins now.

I feel a bit bad for Jenkins as it would have been a big fight for him.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.prob ... otten/amp/

[BigDoofus]

The purse bid said the fight would have had to happen by the end of Feb 2021. We know it didn’t happen, was replaced by Jenkins vs Essuman and that won’t take place this year. Frank has a couple of shows left this year as you say but he isn’t spending much money on his undercard next week (understandably given the main event) and I’d be very surprised if he’d have been able to afford another British title fight on the December 5th show. If he could then why hasn’t he put on the Jenkins vs Essuman fight?

The purse bids were called for mid October which would have given them 5 weeks to show yesterday. Warren/Jenkins’ team could have argued that wasn’t long enough and wanted to wait for the new year.

I can’t really begrudge Benn taking the fight last night, he looked great and will, unfortunately for us, say he’s ahead of Jenkins now.

I feel a bit bad for Jenkins as it would have been a big fight for him.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.prob ... otten/amp/

[handsofstone]

Have you a link to Warren saying this?

Nah but I've not seen him or Team Jenkins deny it so I'm inclined to believe Hearn

Why can't Benn fight him next?

Good fight, cant see why it cant happen, surely Benn wants the British and Commonwealth, Eddie's made offers, if Frank didnt like it then why didnt he make an offer?

[BigDoofus]

Good fight, cant see why it cant happen, surely Benn wants the British and Commonwealth, Eddie's made offers, if Frank didnt like it then why didnt he make an offer?

Maybe FW thought he'd win it on purse bids??
It probably won't happen because Benn pulled out and someone else has been mandated.

[Boxerbeetle]

Big thanks to the mods for no longer moving these threads immediately after the event to the RBR forum where no-one goes Really helps keep the discussion alive.

[mickey1975]

I’m missing something here. Why not just do the purse bids? Can someone explain?

[maverick23]

I’m missing something here. Why not just do the purse bids? Can someone explain?

See my response to you previously and other comments.

If it had gone to purse bids then there was no guarantee the fight would happen this year and he, understandably, wanted to fight.

Chris Jenkins, after Frank turned down an offer that Jenkins thought was good, remains without a fight date and now won’t fight this year.

[mickey1975]

I’m missing something here. Why not just do the purse bids? Can someone explain?

See my response to you previously and other comments.

If it had gone to purse bids then there was no guarantee the fight would happen this year and he, understandably, wanted to fight.

Chris Jenkins, after Frank turned down an offer that Jenkins thought was good, remains without a fight date and now won’t fight this year.

Jenkinks isn’t a free agent. Benn would not, in a million years, box on BT.... Why should Frank let his guy go over?

[maverick23]

I’m missing something here. Why not just do the purse bids? Can someone explain?

See my response to you previously and other comments.

If it had gone to purse bids then there was no guarantee the fight would happen this year and he, understandably, wanted to fight.

Chris Jenkins, after Frank turned down an offer that Jenkins thought was good, remains without a fight date and now won’t fight this year.

Jenkinks isn’t a free agent. Benn would not, in a million years, box on BT.... Why should Frank let his guy go over?

Of course he doesn’t have to but Frank was the guy who came out in July saying he wanted Jenkins to fight Benn. He told the world. They get an offer to fight Benn which Jenkins has openly said he and his team were happy with but Frank won’t let it happen.

I’m also not aware of any offers to Matchroom from FW for Benn to fight Jenkins on BT.

Now Benn has got out, looked good and Jenkins remains sidelined until he fights Essuman for, in all likelihood, a much lower fee than he would have got fighting Benn.

[Black Sam Bellamy]

Why couldn't Eddie have gone to purse bids; won it, and then put the fight on in Nov/Dec ?

[Ruthless-RKO]

Why couldn't Eddie have gone to purse bids; won it, and then put the fight on in Nov/Dec ?

Eddeh Hearn NEVER wins purse bids.

[maverick23]

Why couldn't Eddie have gone to purse bids; won it, and then put the fight on in Nov/Dec ?

Because the date of the purse bids would have given just 5 weeks to the show on Saturday. Jenkins team would have likely wanted longer to train for it and Eddie would have wanted longer to promote it.

They could have looked to put the fight on in December though but just because you win a purse bid doesn’t always mean the fight will happen. Plenty of boxers have been withdrawn after their respective promoter loses a purse bid.

[mickey1975]

Well have to agree to disagree! Neither were going to let the other promote! Bids were the only answer and Benn pulled out.