Unknown prospects worth watching ?

[Boxing Prospect]

That's him, Mekhontsev! God damn what a flop :/

[jewboypgh]

I got 3 of of Pittsburgh:

10-0 Oleg Dovhun: slick southpaw. This kid can box. Not sure of the weight. Maybe bantam or feather

Kiante Irving: a big strong super middleweight with really fast hands and big KO power.

Demolition Man Pinchuk: this kid has balls and heart. He’ll fight anyone. A real tough guy

[Stanny Onis]

That's him, Mekhontsev! God damn what a flop :/

The three other light heavy beasts from the east he came up with at the same time- Beterbiev, Bivol and Gvozdyk have all been successful though. . It was strange cause Mekhonstev looked like he had a perfect style for the pros, he went through everyone easily at the 2012 Olympics

[Stanny Onis]

Light Middleweight has a crazy strong long list of prospects coming up. Most of whom are probably unknown.

[sandis]

Yauheni Dauhaliavets from Belarus

[Boxing Prospect]

Yauheni Dauhaliavets from Belarus

He looked great last time out, but sadly the clock is ticking, he's already in his 30's iirc :(

[margaret thatcher]

if he was already that good as a 22 year old turning pro he'd be a great prospect, i expect he's not going to develop much more though

why do so few east europeans go for the european title these days? compared to their overall talent pool not many go that route. it's a lot of brits, italians, french, etc. he could be a real contender for something like that but i think beating a world level guy will be beyond him, at least based on the georgi fight.

[adobson15]

Agree about Paddy Donovan
For a young guy, he seems to be a thinking boxer, and very relaxed. Eddie will hopefully get hin the opportunities in time.

He is signed to Top Rank I believe, not Matchroom but yes should get opportunities on the big stage over the next few fights.

[adobson15]

Light Middleweight has a crazy strong long list of prospects coming up. Most of whom are probably unknown.

Magomed Kurbanov looks very good and is only 25. Already ranked #4 by the WBA so can see him getting a title in the not so distant future.

[sandis]

if he was already that good as a 22 year old turning pro he'd be a great prospect, i expect he's not going to develop much more though

why do so few east europeans go for the european title these days? compared to their overall talent pool not many go that route. it's a lot of brits, italians, french, etc. he could be a real contender for something like that but i think beating a world level guy will be beyond him, at least based on the georgi fight.

I just checked EBU ratings. They do not rate these boxers though they are definitely ready to make fights of this level.

Any organisation that will start to rate and 3-4 wins good boxers from Eastern Europe that are older than 25 and have either amateur boxing or full-contact kickboxing experience will definitely benefit from it. Most of these boxers are mentally and physically ready to fight good 10-12 rounder fights. Tursynbai Kulakhmet won WBC International in his 2nd fight. The same Dauhaliavets won EBP in his 4th fight. Agrba won WBA Continental in his 3rd fight. So may be EBU just a little bit late of modern trends in pro boxing.

[sandis]

Yanis Kurylenko from Ukraine impressed me recently



It difficult to say how far he can go , but he has something to show in this division.

[Stanny Onis]

Light Middleweight has a crazy strong long list of prospects coming up. Most of whom are probably unknown.

Magomed Kurbanov looks very good and is only 25. Already ranked #4 by the WBA so can see him getting a title in the not so distant future.

Yes I agree Kurbanov looks a very good all rounder.

There's a lot of talent on the come up at 154

I suppose Tim Tszyu and Israil Madrimov are now quite well known with hardcores

But theres also - Sergio Garcia, Serhii Bohachuk, Sadriddin Akhmedov, Aaron Mckenna, Bakhram Murtazaliev, Dylan Charrat, Artem Oganesyan, Souleymayne Cissokho, Scott Fitzgerald, Mohammed Rabii, Khuseyn Baysangurov

I think this is gonna become a very stacked strong division soon.

[margaret thatcher]

artem looks really good and very young

[margaret thatcher]

Yanis Kurylenko from Ukraine impressed me recently



It difficult to say how far he can go , but he has something to show in this division.

other guy has some moves

[aicheligad]

Another good prospect from Poland is Super-Middleweight Kamil Bednarek (5-0, 3 KO), he's a sharp puncher with quick hands and legs. He convincigly defeated some tough local journeymans (Grafka, Murashkin, Zhuk), he's won all rounds so far, knocked out 3 out of 5 opponets, the remaining 2 were badly beaten. He had some success in other fighting formula. Bednarek will fight again on December 4th (with Masternak and Czerkaszyn on the card).

Bednarek's debut (quick, brutal KO):



Bednarek's last fight:



My personally favourite Polish prospect is LHW Paweł Stępień (14-0-1 11 KO but in fact 15-0 as he got robbed), who unlike most European fighters is very elusive and relies on his body work in defence, skilled fighter with decent punch, though sometimes he is too nonchalant in the ring, hard hitting fighter who often knocks his opponents by liver shot. As a young fighter, he fought in WSB against Cuban Superstar Julio Cesar La Cruz, although he got stopped, I've seen potential in him since this fight. On his record, he has Norbert Dąbrowski, Dayron Lester, Yevgeniy Makhteienko, Dmitry Sukhotsky, Marek Matyja x2, Geard Ajetović - not bad at this stage of career. He has a draw in his record but he got badly robbed against Matyja (me and most of people had it 98-92 for Stępień and he clearly won at least 7 rounds).

One of his liver shot KO's:



Short highlights (mostly KO's) of his fights:



If someone is interested enough, there is a long highlights video from his 1st to 12th fight:

[margaret thatcher]

Poland usually has lots of good fighters but can't seem to break through with a great fighter, i wonder why

[aicheligad]

Poland usually has lots of good fighters but can't seem to break through with a great fighter, i wonder why

The fall of amateur boxing in Poland after the end of communism is the reason, I think. Polish Boxing Federation is a total joke these days (bunch of some old dudes who care about money and interests only), there is no money as well, fighters earn virtually nothing (the state is giving virtually nothing, now there is a decent private sponsor in Suzuki, I hope that it will change something, also, public tv channel TVP Sport is showing some amateur boxing since 2 years or so, the exposure is very important), there is no amateur boxing league system (in the past era, thousands of people attended the best boxing matches).

The result of this situation is: no medal in olympic boxing since 1992 (despite the fact that we have 43 in total, including 8 gold medals, some of the champions like Jerzy Kulej could well be a pro boxing legend now, if the eastern bloc fighters could participate there back then), there were no polish male boxers on 2008 and 2012 olympics (in 2016 we had two fighters: Igor Jakubowski who got eliminated in the 1st round by Lawrence Okolie, he's a 2-0 cruiser now but he had almost 2 years long break for reality shows and stuff like that, and Tomasz Jabłoński, who also got eliminated in 1st round, he ended his career prematurely due to injuries).

Out of the current Poland amateur boxing champions, there is almost no one with potential, except of Damian Durkacz, who is only 21 years old and already had some success.

Polish law regulations say that people below the age of 15 can't participate in legal, sanctioned bouts - it's part of the problem too. The young fighters should already have lots of tournaments on their resume at this point. The lack of good trainers is another problem.

Another thing, MMA just became more popular, especially among the youngsters. Mostly due to freak fights, but still.

[Stanny Onis]

Poland usually has lots of good fighters but can't seem to break through with a great fighter, i wonder why

Stanley Ketchel & Tony Zale were Polish-Americans.

Dariusz Michaewszki (should be in the hall of fame!) and Tomasz Adamek

[Stanny Onis]

Poland usually has lots of good fighters but can't seem to break through with a great fighter, i wonder why

The fall of amateur boxing in Poland after the end of communism is the reason, I think. Polish Boxing Federation is a total joke these days (bunch of some old dudes who care about money and interests only), there is no money as well, fighters earn virtually nothing (the state is giving virtually nothing, now there is a decent private sponsor in Suzuki, I hope that it will change something, also, public tv channel TVP Sport is showing some amateur boxing since 2 years or so, the exposure is very important), there is no amateur boxing league system (in the past era, thousands of people attended the best boxing matches).

The result of this situation is: no medal in olympic boxing since 1992 (despite the fact that we have 43 in total, including 8 gold medals, some of the champions like Jerzy Kulej could well be a pro boxing legend now, if the eastern bloc fighters could participate there back then), there were no polish male boxers on 2008 and 2012 olympics (in 2016 we had two fighters: Igor Jakubowski who got eliminated in the 1st round by Lawrence Okolie, he's a 2-0 cruiser now but he had almost 2 years long break for reality shows and stuff like that, and Tomasz Jabłoński, who also got eliminated in 1st round, he ended his career prematurely due to injuries).

Out of the current Poland amateur boxing champions, there is almost no one with potential, except of Damian Durkacz, who is only 21 years old and already had some success.

Polish law regulations say that people below the age of 15 can't participate in legal, sanctioned bouts - it's part of the problem too. The young fighters should already have lots of tournaments on their resume at this point. The lack of good trainers is another problem.

Another thing, MMA just became more popular, especially among the youngsters. Mostly due to freak fights, but still.

One of the reasons has to be also.. that plenty of the top amateurs still don't turn pro! I mean why haven't Tomasz Jablonski, Mateusz Polski, Pawel Kastramin turned pro?!

I think the recent arrival of millions of Ukrainians in Poland will help the Polish boxing scene :)
Fedir Cherkashyn looks very good.

UK promoters should sign polish fighters with the large polish population in the UK surely they would come out to support for a good fighter.

[aicheligad]

Poland usually has lots of good fighters but can't seem to break through with a great fighter, i wonder why

The fall of amateur boxing in Poland after the end of communism is the reason, I think. Polish Boxing Federation is a total joke these days (bunch of some old dudes who care about money and interests only), there is no money as well, fighters earn virtually nothing (the state is giving virtually nothing, now there is a decent private sponsor in Suzuki, I hope that it will change something, also, public tv channel TVP Sport is showing some amateur boxing since 2 years or so, the exposure is very important), there is no amateur boxing league system (in the past era, thousands of people attended the best boxing matches).

The result of this situation is: no medal in olympic boxing since 1992 (despite the fact that we have 43 in total, including 8 gold medals, some of the champions like Jerzy Kulej could well be a pro boxing legend now, if the eastern bloc fighters could participate there back then), there were no polish male boxers on 2008 and 2012 olympics (in 2016 we had two fighters: Igor Jakubowski who got eliminated in the 1st round by Lawrence Okolie, he's a 2-0 cruiser now but he had almost 2 years long break for reality shows and stuff like that, and Tomasz Jabłoński, who also got eliminated in 1st round, he ended his career prematurely due to injuries).

Out of the current Poland amateur boxing champions, there is almost no one with potential, except of Damian Durkacz, who is only 21 years old and already had some success.

Polish law regulations say that people below the age of 15 can't participate in legal, sanctioned bouts - it's part of the problem too. The young fighters should already have lots of tournaments on their resume at this point. The lack of good trainers is another problem.

Another thing, MMA just became more popular, especially among the youngsters. Mostly due to freak fights, but still.

One of the reasons has to be also.. that plenty of the top amateurs still don't turn pro! I mean why haven't Tomasz Jablonski, Mateusz Polski, Pawel Kastramin turned pro?!

I think the recent arrival of millions of Ukrainians in Poland will help the Polish boxing scene :)
Fedir Cherkashyn looks very good.

UK promoters should sign polish fighters with the large polish population in the UK surely they would come out to support for a good fighter.

As I said, Jabłoński ended his career prematurely due to injuries, I think he's a personal boxing trainer now, Mateusz Polski is decent, I guess that he wants to make it to the olympics at least one time, Paweł Kastramin is Belarusian and I don't really know much about him except that he's now living in Poland and wants to represent Poland at olympics.

But these fighters are examples, most fighters with potential generally turn pro early, some even before getting any medal at national championship.

Czerkaszyn is a special kid, very, very talented, he's grandmother was Polish, he learned Polish very quickly, but of course he should be considered Ukrainian, despite the fact that he's under Polish flag on BoxRec.

Other Ukrainian fighters in Poland like Siergiej Werwejko, Denis Krotiuk, Maks Miszczenko, Mykoła Wowk, Aleksander Strecki (though the last one was in the Ukrainian team together with Usyk, Lomachenko and Gvozdyk) unfortunately aren't nearly as good as Czerkaszyn, so the Ukrainian influx didn't changed Polish boxing scene a lot so far.

Maybe if the Queensberry Poland group develops well, we'll see more Polish fighters in UK soon. They have the best trainer in Poland (he's not Ukrainian, but Russian!).

[aicheligad]

Poland usually has lots of good fighters but can't seem to break through with a great fighter, i wonder why

Stanley Ketchel & Tony Zale were Polish-Americans.

Dariusz Michaewszki (should be in the hall of fame!) and Tomasz Adamek

If only Michalczewski fought the best in the era and Adamek stayed below HW... who know what would have happened. Gołota had a huge potential too, but he screwed his career big time.

Not the best fighter but Craig Bodzianowski (who lost his leg and fought for a world title with a leg prothesis) was of Polish too - I think he should be added to the Hall of Fame (well, he is not too well known, but anyway )

[aicheligad]

Fiodor Czerkaszyn (for those who have never seen him in action):

[Stanny Onis]

Kamil Laszczyk is a talented fighter, he beat Tevin Farmer. But of course he hasn't had the same ' American privilege in boxing' that Farmer has had.

[aicheligad]

Kamil Laszczyk is a talented fighter, he beat Tevin Farmer. But of course he hasn't had the same ' American privilege in boxing' that Farmer has had.

He wasted the best years of his career, he seems to be on decline now Also, he had some health problems (with anemia I think) and conflict with promoters. Recently, he was down and hurt vs a guy who has 0 KO in his record! He won the rest of the rounds, though. This fight is not added to BoxRec because of some conflicts on Polish boxing scene. Łaszczyk had potential, at some point he was ranked #2 in WBO, now he is fighting bums once per year.

[Stanny Onis]

Kamil Laszczyk is a talented fighter, he beat Tevin Farmer. But of course he hasn't had the same ' American privilege in boxing' that Farmer has had.

He wasted the best years of his career, he seems to be on decline now Also, he had some health problems (with anemia I think) and conflict with promoters. Recently, he was down and hurt vs a guy who has 0 KO in his record! He won the rest of the rounds, though. This fight is not added to BoxRec because of some conflicts on Polish boxing scene.

Damn i didn't know these things. Seen him a few times earlier in his career, and just assumed he was another Ivan Dychko type i.e not getting opportunities.