Julio Cesar Chavez vs Don Curry. What If?

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 21 Jun 2006, 06:55

What do you think would have been the outcome if Chavez had moved up to Welterweight and instead of facing Pernell Whitaker he came face to face will a prime Don Curry?

Julio Cesar Chavez.
http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=008119

Don Curry.
http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=612

Ezzard · Post by **Ezzard** » 21 Jun 2006, 08:35

I think Chavez has the right style to beat Curry but he's just too small.

walshb · Post by **walshb** » 21 Jun 2006, 13:42

Agreed Ezzard, too smal and a little too slow for the hard hitting fit Curry. TKO win for Curry as he will nail JC too much with his physical advantages and speed, plus the extra natural weight

dr_devious · Post by **dr_devious** » 22 Jun 2006, 07:04

Curry on points

barry · Post by **barry** » 22 Jun 2006, 11:37

Chavez just don't have the size and at his very best Donald Curry was one hell of a great fighter! I could actually see Curry stopping Chavez!

Ezzard · Post by **Ezzard** » 22 Jun 2006, 11:39

I do think though that a swarmer with great stamina and a good chin could force Curry to fight at a faster pace and unsettle him.

Curry looked great until he ran into Honeyghan. I know eveyone will scream about weight weakening but IMO Honeyghan would have always given Curry problems.

Nile4000 · Post by **Nile4000** » 24 Jun 2006, 12:06

Curry would stop Chavez, maybe kayo him, in the early to mid rounds.

ferocity · Post by **ferocity** » 24 Jun 2006, 21:23

i've seen one of currys fight at welterweight, where he fought a european fighter and i wasn't too impressed with him. the other fight i've seen of his is against the bodysnather impressed me with his skills but was at a bigger weight and then got ko'd. at the welterweight fight he showed skills but i didn't see power that would ko chavez, even at welterweight.

kick asner · Post by **kick asner** » 24 Jun 2006, 22:05

I agree that I don't think Curry would have knocked out Chavez but I thought that he showed good power as a welterweight, could take a man out with either hand. Their were a few fights where he was patient and chose to box were he did not exibit his power, he fought that way in both of the Starling fights. Any time his name pops up I can't help but think what might have been and what went so woefully wrong in the Honeygen fight. Some would say he had a hard time making the weight, others would say Honeygen was better than first thought although he didn't show much after the Curry fight, still others would say Curry was overated. But for three years he looked like the real deal.

revporl · Post by **revporl** » 01 Jul 2006, 06:39

He never really came back from the Honeygan defeat did he? For someone who had seemed as invincible as he did, it was a hell of a beating, which always makes me think that he was perhaps a bit overrated.

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 01 Jul 2006, 07:07

I always felt that the decline of Don Curry was a combination of never getting over the Honeyghan lose, years of struggling to make 147lbs and a very long amateur career just draining his body and mind over the years.

Broncano · Post by **Broncano** » 01 Jul 2006, 20:55

KOJOE90 wrote:I always felt that the decline of Don Curry was a combination of never getting over the Honeyghan lose, years of struggling to make 147lbs and a very long amateur career just draining his body and mind over the years.

It appears also that his mind was never in the sport. I' ve heard and read often that he did it strictly for the money and that he actually did not care for boxing much. I had the pleasure of chatting with Marlon Starling a few weeks ago at the IBHOF weekend and he also told me he always felt as Don didn't have the fire in him even before he had turned pro. (Incidentally, Marlon insists to this day that he won the first fight

kick asner · Post by **kick asner** » 01 Jul 2006, 22:06

Thats defintaly a side I have not heard before. That would pretty much explain why he faded the way he did so I can see logic in that explanation. It would be hard to perform at a high level especially in a tough sport like boxing while not having much intrest in it. It might be a revelation to find out if that might be the reason that other fighters went downhill for no apparent reason after displaying a world of potential.

hawaiianpunch · Post by **hawaiianpunch** » 03 Jul 2006, 20:56

Curry definately. Probably by stoppage.

Ezzard · Post by **Ezzard** » 04 Jul 2006, 06:51

I think Curry was a great talent but I also think he was overrated. The expectations on him were massive. IMO there was no way he'd move up and take Hagler as some were suggesting.

Does anybody know much about his relationship with Ray Leonard? I heard that Ray was an adviser to him for a while but how afterwards Curry came to dislike Ray. Anyone else heard anythign about this?

walshb · Post by **walshb** » 04 Jul 2006, 09:45

Agreed Ezzard. Curry though very talented seemed to be hyped up more than anything and his lack of real grit and a concrete chin always left him a notch below Leonard, Hagler, Duran etc. I remember watching him fight that Korean and win a UD over 15rds. He just didn't look impressive against that fellow who was nothing close on special.

I'd say he was a wee bit envious of Leonards legacy and the fact that most if not all the boxing opublic never gave him the praise and credit they gave Ray

Ezzard · Post by **Ezzard** » 04 Jul 2006, 10:12

walshb wrote:Agreed Ezzard. Curry though very talented seemed to be hyped up more than anything and his lack of real grit and a concrete chin always left him a notch below Leonard, Hagler, Duran etc. I remember watching him fight that Korean and win a UD over 15rds. He just didn't look impressive against that fellow who was nothing close on special.

I'd say he was a wee bit envious of Leonards legacy and the fact that most if not all the boxing opublic never gave him the praise and credit they gave Ray

I'm pretty sure that i read somewehre how Ray kept telling Curry to stay at 147. Curry blames the loss to Honeyghan on being weight drained (although if you ask me Lloyd's style had a lot to do with it).

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 04 Jul 2006, 17:06

Ezzard wrote:Does anybody know much about his relationship with Ray Leonard? I heard that Ray was an adviser to him for a while but how afterwards Curry came to dislike Ray. Anyone else heard anythign about this?

This is news to me, does anyone have anymore information on this matter?