Betting thread

[dookus]

Any thoughts on Docherty v Cullen?

Cullen is limited and lacks a big punch, but showed tremendous heart and workrate against Cash in the face of superior firepower and handspeed.

Docherty has a good KO record but has faced noone (2 fighters with winning records) and looks like the slow, strong, heavy-handed type - doesn't seem to have Cash's explosiveness.

Cullen for the upset or maybe a decision loss?

[Ricky]

Any thoughts on Docherty v Cullen?

Cullen is limited and lacks a big punch, but showed tremendous heart and workrate against Cash in the face of superior firepower and handspeed.

Docherty has a good KO record but has faced noone (2 fighters with winning records) and looks like the slow, strong, heavy-handed type - doesn't seem to have Cash's explosiveness.

Cullen for the upset or maybe a decision loss?

Cullen did very well vs Cash, and imo edged it vs Zak Chelli. Never seen Docherty, on paper though I'll take Cullen.

[nmhz]

Any thoughts on Docherty v Cullen?

Cullen is limited and lacks a big punch, but showed tremendous heart and workrate against Cash in the face of superior firepower and handspeed.

Docherty has a good KO record but has faced noone (2 fighters with winning records) and looks like the slow, strong, heavy-handed type - doesn't seem to have Cash's explosiveness.

Cullen for the upset or maybe a decision loss?

Cullen did very well vs Cash, and imo edged it vs Zak Chelli. Never seen Docherty, on paper though I'll take Cullen.

Cullen is paying $4.50 for the win at Bet365

[skanksta]

Any thoughts on Docherty v Cullen?

Cullen is limited and lacks a big punch, but showed tremendous heart and workrate against Cash in the face of superior firepower and handspeed.

Docherty has a good KO record but has faced noone (2 fighters with winning records) and looks like the slow, strong, heavy-handed type - doesn't seem to have Cash's explosiveness.

Cullen for the upset or maybe a decision loss?

Docherty is the obvious favourite and should probably win by KO.
I've bet Cullen and Cullen points at 11/2 and 14s - way too big. Especially as Docherty gave me an overconfident "I'll just walk thru' him" vibe, while Cullen was all humble, serious and respectful.
I can't see how Docherty has that much potential that he should be nearly 90/10 favourite when Chelli was (roughly) 50/50 ?!

[maverick23]

I think Docherty wins by stoppage inside of 5 rounds. Cullen has been stopped a couple of times and is easy to hit. I think Docherty will take him out after a competitive few rounds.

[Gnome]

Brook is paying out at 14-1 for a KO, stranger things have happened!

[ShadrachSimmo]

Any thoughts on Docherty v Cullen?

Cullen is limited and lacks a big punch, but showed tremendous heart and workrate against Cash in the face of superior firepower and handspeed.

Docherty has a good KO record but has faced noone (2 fighters with winning records) and looks like the slow, strong, heavy-handed type - doesn't seem to have Cash's explosiveness.

Cullen for the upset or maybe a decision loss?

Docherty is the obvious favourite and should probably win by KO.
I've bet Cullen and Cullen points at 11/2 and 14s - way too big. Especially as Docherty gave me an overconfident "I'll just walk thru' him" vibe, while Cullen was all humble, serious and respectful.
I can't see how Docherty has that much potential that he should be nearly 90/10 favourite when Chelli was (roughly) 50/50 ?!

It’s good value backing Cullen. We’ve no idea how good Docherty is. He might come out and blast Cullen away sharpish or get dragged into the later rounds where it’ll suit Cullen. It’s an interesting fight the only one worth watching.

[TheLeprechaun]

I agree that Docherty is an accident waiting to happen but Cullen isn't the guy

[maverick23]

Any thoughts on Docherty v Cullen?

Cullen is limited and lacks a big punch, but showed tremendous heart and workrate against Cash in the face of superior firepower and handspeed.

Docherty has a good KO record but has faced noone (2 fighters with winning records) and looks like the slow, strong, heavy-handed type - doesn't seem to have Cash's explosiveness.

Cullen for the upset or maybe a decision loss?

Docherty is the obvious favourite and should probably win by KO.
I've bet Cullen and Cullen points at 11/2 and 14s - way too big. Especially as Docherty gave me an overconfident "I'll just walk thru' him" vibe, while Cullen was all humble, serious and respectful.
I can't see how Docherty has that much potential that he should be nearly 90/10 favourite when Chelli was (roughly) 50/50 ?!

It’s good value backing Cullen. We’ve no idea how good Docherty is. He might come out and blast Cullen away sharpish or get dragged into the later rounds where it’ll suit Cullen. It’s an interesting fight the only one worth watching.

Good call lads. I thought it would be a relatively comfortable with for Docherty.

[cutsman]

Yeah excellent shout

[Matt Teague]

Seeing Tom Little at 9/1 on sky bet.. Surely it's worth a few quid.
What's people's thoughts on that?

[gregregegg]

Seeing Tom Little at 9/1 on sky bet.. Surely it's worth a few quid.
What's people's thoughts on that?

Yea i have a small bet on little at about that, seems value if he turns up.. Was going to go a bit harder but i saw him looking fat about 10 or 12 weeks ago.. he is down to 240lb suposidly which isnt bad. concerns me that he was 280 abotu 8 weeks ago, means his camp has been more fat loss than sharpening to me. Might throw a bit more on it fight night if he looks up.

[cutsman]

Also value in Formella v Benn

Should Benn really be a fav in this match up ?

[TheLeprechaun]

Also value in Formella v Benn

Should Benn really be a fav in this match up ?

If the judging was fair I'd agree. Formella can't win a decision. They'll even have Terry O Connor judging I'd say.

[Matt Teague]

Seeing Tom Little at 9/1 on sky bet.. Surely it's worth a few quid.
What's people's thoughts on that?

Yea i have a small bet on little at about that, seems value if he turns up.. Was going to go a bit harder but i saw him looking fat about 10 or 12 weeks ago.. he is down to 240lb suposidly which isnt bad. concerns me that he was 280 abotu 8 weeks ago, means his camp has been more fat loss than sharpening to me. Might throw a bit more on it fight night if he looks up.

I feel (in his eyes his is a chance for him to get a win with decent exposure.
Babic is no way near the level little has boxed.
Little & formella double worth a few quid

[Boxing Prospect]

Panya Pradabsri is 6/1 vs Wanheng Menayothin... Big time value there

[Boxing Prospect]

Panya Pradabsri is 6/1 vs Wanheng Menayothin... Big time value there

Hes fighting moonsri I thought.?

Same guy.

Wanheng Menayothin = Chayaphon Moonsri

[Boxing Prospect]

Hes fighting moonsri I thought.?

Same guy.

Wanheng Menayothin = Chayaphon Moonsri

Yeah those Thais keep you on your toes. What is he at the moment?

Both....think of it as... "Tommy Burns = Noah Brusso"

So essentially Thai's are (like the rest of us) born, and have a birth name, the ones that become fighters take a fighting name (Wanheng) and a sponsor or gym name(s), i.e. CP Freshmart, Kokietgym etc.

If you want to respect Thai tradition you use his fighting name, if you want to ignore that use his birth name.

[nmhz]

Panya Pradabsri is 6/1 vs Wanheng Menayothin... Big time value there

I was interested in your tip and looked these guys up. Both have some terrible opponents.

On Pradabsri's 33rd and 34th pro fight, he is up against boxers on their debut. Ridiculous.

Where is the value?

[Boxing Prospect]

Panya Pradabsri is 6/1 vs Wanheng Menayothin... Big time value there

I was interested in your tip and looked these guys up. Both have some terrible opponents.

On Pradabsri's 33rd and 34th pro fight, he is up against boxers on their debut. Ridiculous.

Where is the value?

When it comes to Thai's there's a lot of things to note. For example those debutants probably WEREN'T debutants, but even if they were they were stay busy fights, nothing more nothing less. Look at Srisaket's opposition before he faced Roman Gonzalez (3 supposed debutants in a row). The Thai's use those fights to stay busy, stay in shape, and make the most of the opportunities to work with sponsors (I.e. CP Freshmart).

Panya's sole loss was a debatable one in China to one of China's most notable fighters (the promoters were lining up Xiong Vs Knockout CP Freshmart, and that would have gone up in flames had Xiong not got the W).

When we talk about "terrible" opponents you also need to consider you are looking at their records (at least most of the time) and not the fighters. I know neither guy fought him but Lito Dante is the BEST example of this at the moment. He has a crap tonne of losses, but he's a handful, especially over 10 and 12 rounds.

Likewise Wanehng's win over Jaysever Abcede looks like a win over a garbage opponent but since then Abcede has become a world ranked fighter, beat former world title challenger Stamp Kiatniwat (quicker than Ioka did), and beat current Japanese national champion Seigo Yuri Akui (he was also pretty unlucky against second generation fighter Kento Hatanaka).

As for the value side of things. Wanheng is already the oldest WBC Minimumweight champion (35) an ancient age for a fighter at the weight, has complained publicly about injuries (nose and right eye including double vision), announced his retirement a few weeks ago (before essentially being pushed to un-retire), seemingly wanted out of the sport, the same team promote both fighters (so a passing of the torch on the cards is very possible as it prolongs their control of the title - and all the officials are Thai), hasn't fought in 13 months. All suggesting this is much, much close than the 6/1 odds available yesterday (and are now down to 9/2)

Yes Wanheng should be the favourite, but a lot of alarm bells there IMO.

[GlobalBox]

Taken the 11/10 and Evs for the Dubois fight to be over in rounds 1-6, gone in quite heavy (for me) on this one, several three figure bets as I just see them going to war from the start and struggle to see someone not being hurt early on. Have to confess did most of these bets early on and seeing some of the comments with a lot feeling this could go a fair way a little worried now in case I am just misreading the fight.

Still I do fancy it so guess it needed to be backed.

Not much else I fancy this weekend so will have a bit of a play in running if anything jumps out.

[Boxing Prospect]

Panya Pradabsri is 6/1 vs Wanheng Menayothin... Big time value there

Hope people filled their boots here!

[GlobalBox]

Panya Pradabsri is 6/1 vs Wanheng Menayothin... Big time value there

Hope people filled their boots here!

I did mate and thats a great shout. Thanks buddy

[Cholo_cws]

Panya Pradabsri is 6/1 vs Wanheng Menayothin... Big time value there

Hope people filled their boots here!

I did mate and thats a great shout. Thanks buddy

I got on it. Thanks Boxing Prospect

[MightyWarrior]

Great tip