Errol Spence Jr. vs. Danny Garcia - December 5, 2020

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Who wins?

Poll ended at 06 Dec 2020, 11:52

Spence - Decision
39
72%
Spence - T/KO
6
11%
DRAW
3
6%
Garcia - T/KO
1
2%
Garcia - Decision
5
9%
 
Total votes: 54

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Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Danny Garcia - December 5, 2020

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Fight week begins!! :box:
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Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Danny Garcia - December 5, 2020

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It looks like Spence is highly favored, despite the fact of going through troubles. Actually, I also favor Spence here. I see this fight close, but with a wider official score.
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Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Danny Garcia - December 5, 2020

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This is to me is such a tossup. If Spence is truly recovered he cruises to victory over DG. If he’s not, DG could be game for an upset KO. My pick is Spence by UD.
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Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Danny Garcia - December 5, 2020

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Tough fight for Spence, not knowing where he is at after the accident. Garcia will probably be the hardest puncher he has faced to date. If Spence can take the punches, he should win comfortably by decision.
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Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Danny Garcia - December 5, 2020

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Bandog wrote: 30 Nov 2020, 19:03 Tough fight for Spence, not knowing where he is at after the accident. Garcia will probably be the hardest puncher he has faced to date. If Spence can take the punches, he should win comfortably by decision.
Agree with this. Garcia has very strong hooks.
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Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Danny Garcia - December 5, 2020

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How to watch, stream and buy the pay-per-view fight

Where can I watch the Spence-Garcia fight card?

The main card on Fox Sports pay-per-view begins at 9 p.m. ET, with a purchase price of $74.95. The PPV card also will be streamed on the Fox Sports app.

The full card:
Errol Spence Jr. vs. Danny Garcia, 12 rounds, for Spence's IBF and WBC welterweight titles
Sebastian Fundora vs. Jorge Cota, 12 rounds, junior middleweights
TBA vs. Eduardo Ramirez, 12 rounds, featherweights
Josesito Lopez vs. Francisco Santana 10 rounds, welterweights
Miguel Flores vs. Isaac Avelar, 10 rounds, junior lightweights
Fernando Garcia vs. Juan Tapia, 8 rounds, featherweights
Frank Martin vs. TBA, 8 rounds, lightweights
Vito Mielnicki Jr. vs. Steven Pulluaim, 6 rounds, welterweights
Burley Brooks vs. Marco Delgado, 6 rounds, super middleweights
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Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Danny Garcia - December 5, 2020

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Not expecting Errol to improve from his former form. Spence has leaky defence & his durability & confidence under question now.
Garcia has better defence & hand speed than given credit for.
Spence may lose but still get the nod
Exciting matchup!
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Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Danny Garcia - December 5, 2020

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It looks close between them.
Danny Garcia isn't a mickey mouse fighter, he's well equipped in the boxing department, never seen him rocked to the point that he could get knocked out.
I have a good idea what I'll get from Danny Garcia, due to the car crash I can't say the same for Errol Spence.
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Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Danny Garcia - December 5, 2020

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Its a fun fight, but for 75 bucks i would need that undercard to be suppppper stacked. it is not.
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Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Danny Garcia - December 5, 2020

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I think D Garcia is a very competent fighter and hard hitter. He'll need to close the gap to land those big hooks. Spence completely out-boxed Danny Garcia's twin M Garcia at distance. Advantage Spence.

I'm hoping (in terms of things being competitive) that D Garcia has learned from his twins loss and his own recent losses. I want to see a jab no.1. In terms of getting on the inside...well, maybe he can take more punishment than his twin who seems to be a lot smaller than him. If he can take more punishment and/or can bully his way in, we may have a fight.

I'll take a risk and bet on Garcia the underdog.
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Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Danny Garcia - December 5, 2020

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gregregegg wrote: 03 Dec 2020, 01:05 Its a fun fight, but for 75 bucks i would need that undercard to be suppppper stacked. it is not.
Fun fight.
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Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Danny Garcia - December 5, 2020

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It's a gateway fight to a match up between Crawford and the winner.
Garcia upsets, throw the Crawford right at him.
Imagine that in Brooklyn for the opening.
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Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Danny Garcia - December 5, 2020

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The undercard for the Spence Jr-Garcia fight is relatively poor.

The PPV buy-rate for this event is likely to cannibalised by last weekend’s Tyson-Jones affair and also people preferring to subscribe to DAZN for the remainder of the month in order to watch bouts involving Canelo, Ryan Garcia & AJ.

People will be spending a lot of money during the festive period, which means their limited disposable incomes will inevitably prevent them from purchasing all the PPV events being televised over the next four weeks.

Therefore, there’s a distinct possibility that the numbers for the Spence Jr-Garcia PPV event could underperform, to the point it might even struggle to achieve more than 250K buys.
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Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Danny Garcia - December 5, 2020

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Enlightened-One wrote: 03 Dec 2020, 05:20
Therefore, there’s a distinct possibility that the numbers for the Spence Jr-Garcia PPV event could underperform, to the point it might even struggle to achieve more than 250K buys.
Will be Spence's worst PPV Figures..

Plenty of millions watch DSG when he's on FOX/NBC, but how many will pay to see him fight?

The buys will come from Spence's fans, but like you said, it's that time of year..
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Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Danny Garcia - December 5, 2020

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Yep this should struggle. $75 for a pretty thin card vs 20 bucks for a month of dazn with billy jo saunders card, AJ card, GGG card, Canelo card, Ryan Garcia card.. its a tough sell.
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Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Danny Garcia - December 5, 2020

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gregregegg wrote: 03 Dec 2020, 06:29 Yep this should struggle. $75 for a pretty thin card vs 20 bucks for a month of dazn with billy jo saunders card, AJ card, GGG card, Canelo card, Ryan Garcia card.. its a tough sell.
Also, some people only just spent $49.95 on Tyson-Jones.

Those people weren't true boxing fans though.
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Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Danny Garcia - December 5, 2020

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Angel Garcia predicts a 7th round stoppage win for Danny
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Press Release | Sebastian Fundora vs. Habib Ahmed, Jorge Cota Positive For COVID-19

Super welterweight sensation Sebastian "The Towering Inferno" Fundora will face former title challenger Habib Ahmed in a Super Welterweight Title Eliminator on the FOX Sports PBC Pay-Per-View event headlined by Errol Spence Jr. vs. Danny Garcia this Saturday, December 5 from AT&T Stadium in Arlington, Texas.

The pay-per-view begins at 9 p.m. ET/6 p.m. PT and features all-action contenders Josesito "The Riverside Rocky" Lopez and Francisco "Chia" Santana squaring-off in a 10-round welterweight affair while featherweight contender Miguel Flores will meet Mexico's Eduardo Ramirez in a Featherweight Title Eliminator to open the pay-per-view.

Ahmed replaces Jorge Cota and Flores replaces Julio Ceja, after Cota and Ceja tested positive for COVID-19. Flores had already been preparing to face Isaac Avelar on December 5 and Ahmed had been in training as a potential replacement on this card.

Buy the pay-per-view now on www.foxsports.com/ppv and watch on any screen.

Mexico's Avelar will take on the unbeaten Sakaria Lukas in a 10-round super featherweight showdown headlining FOX Sports PBC Pay-Per-View Prelims on FS2 and FOX Deportes. Prelims begin at 7 p.m. ET/4 p.m. PT and will also feature top prospect Vito Mielnicki Jr. taking on Steven Pulluaim in a six-round welterweight bout, plus unbeaten super middleweight prospect Burley Brooks facing Marco Delgado in a six-round attraction.

Tickets for the live event, which is promoted by TGB Promotions, Man Down Promotions and DSG Promotions, are on sale now, and can be purchased at SeatGeek.com, the Official Ticketing Provider of AT&T Stadium.

Non-televised action will see Dallas-native Fernando Garcia (13-2, 8 KOs) in an eight-round featherweight fight against Brownsville, Texas' Juan Tapia (9-3, 3 KOs) and unbeaten Indianapolis native Frank Martin (11-0, 8 KOs) dueling New Jersey's Tyrone Lucky (12-12-4, 8 KOs) in an eight-round lightweight bout.

Towering at nearly six-feet six-inches, Fundora (15-0-1, 10 KOs) has used his height and length, combined with power and aggressiveness, to rack up an unbeaten record since turning pro in 2016. The 22-year-old owns two victories in 2020, beating then unbeaten Daniel Lewis by decision in February, before most recently becoming the first fighter to knock out Nathaniel Gallimore with his August triumph on FOX. Fighting out of Coachella, California, Fundora entered the ring three times in 2019, including TKO victories over then unbeaten fighters Donnie Marshall and Hector Manuel Zepeda, plus an exciting split-draw against fellow contender Jamontay Clark.

A native of Accra, Ghana, Ahmed (27-1-1, 18 KOs) steps into the ring after his August fight with Alantez Fox ended with a no-contest after three rounds. Prior to that, Ahmed scored a dominant unanimous decision over Juan De Angel in May 2019. The 29-year-old has won back-to-back fights since dropping a 2018 world title contest against Gilberto Ramirez. Ahmed was unbeaten in his first 26 pro fights since his 2011 debut, leading up to the Ramirez fight.

Lopez (37-8, 20 KOs) has long established himself as a fiery competitor and top contender in multiple weight classes and has compiled an impressive resume. He owns victories over Victor Ortiz, Miguel Cruz and Mike Dallas Jr., having given the last two the first defeat of their careers. Additionally, he has squared off against Canelo Alvarez, Andre Berto, Marcos Maidana and Jessie Vargas. In 2019 the Riverside, California native lost a majority decision to Keith Thurman, before most recently knocking out John Molina Jr. last September.

Santana (25-8-1, 12 KOs) has taken on the toughest challenges at 147 and 154 pounds and has made his name with his action style throughout a long career as a contender. Santana returns to the ring after losing to former unified champion Jarrett Hurd in January. The Santa Barbara, California native owns a victory over Olympic gold medalist Felix Diaz in April 2018 and has faced unified champion Jermell Charlo and former champion Sadam Ali, while also fighting to a six-round draw against former unified champion Julian Williams in 2011.

The 28-year-old Flores (24-3, 12 KOs) will return to action for the first time since dropping a decision to four-division champion Leo Santa Cruz in their 130-pound title fight last November. Born in Michoacan de Ocampo, Mexico and fighting out of Houston, Texas, Flores scored stoppage wins over Luis May and Raul Chirino heading into that title fight. A pro since 2009, Flores won his first 22 pro fights.

Fighting out of Sinaloa, Mexico, Ramirez (23-2-3, 10 KOs) has risen up the featherweight rankings with wins in three of his last four fights since losing to then 126-pound champion Lee Selby in 2017. The 27-year-old Ramirez most recently gave Leduan Barthelemy his first career loss via a fourth-round stoppage in their rematch last November, following up on their split-draw the first time they faced off. Overall, Ramirez has won 14 of his last 17 outings.

The 23-year-old Avelar (16-2, 10 KOs) lost a narrow split decision to Miguel Tique in December after being stopped by unbeaten top super bantamweight Stephen Fulton in August 2019. The Auguascalientes, Mexico native was unbeaten in his first 16 pro fights, including a 2019 triumph over Juan Antonio Lopez in his U.S. debut. He will be opposed by the undefeated Lucas (23-0, 16 KOs), who will make his U.S. debut on December 5 after victories in 2019 over Raston Kayira and Ndodana Ncube.

A Roseland, New Jersey native Mielnicki (6-0, 4 KOs) steps into the ring under the guidance of renowned coach Joe Goossen for the first time on December 5 as he looks to continue to show the skillset of a future champion. The 18-year-old Mielnicki has scored three victories in 2020, including most recently stopping Chris Rollins in August. He will take on the 30-year-old Pulluaim (5-2, 1 KO) who defeated Emeka Ifekandu in his last fight in October 2019. The Riverside, Missouri native Pulluaim has fought professionally since 2018.

The 24-year-old Brooks (6-0, 5 KOs) trains alongside Errol Spence Jr. and under the guidance of top trainer Derrick James. A Dallas native, Brooks made his 2020 debut in February, scoring a first round stoppage of Melvin Russell. He will face Anaheim, California's Delgado (6-1, 5 KOs), a 29-year-old who has fought professionally since 2016 and who most recently stopped Joseph Ward in October 2019.
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I'm sure Habib Ahmed is a 168'er..
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Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Danny Garcia - December 5, 2020

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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 03 Dec 2020, 06:45 Angel Garcia predicts a 7th round stoppage win for Danny
Of course Danny and Mickey’s father would predict a win in their favour.
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Predictions: Fighters, Trainers, Hall of Famers

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Tickets for the live event, which is promoted by TGB Promotions, Man Down Promotions and DSG Promotions, are on sale now, and can be purchased at SeatGeek.com, the Official Ticketing Provider of AT&T Stadium.

Of those polled, 20 predicted that Spence would retain his titles, while 16 favored Garcia to come out with the victory on Saturday night. Here is what the predictors had to say about the highly anticipated welterweight clash:

Evander Holyfield, Boxing Legend
Spence W 12: Errol Spence is a very technical fighter, and Danny Garcia's a great counter-puncher. But Errol is the best, so I've got Errol winning by decision.

Bernard Hopkins, Boxing Legend
Garcia UD 12: I believe that Danny Garcia will defeat Errol Spence by unanimous decision in a very hard, tough battle of wills.

Keith Thurman, Former Unified World Welterweight Champion
Spence W 12: Danny Garcia's the biggest puncher I've faced in the ring in my entire professional career. Danny's got great timing and a chip on his shoulder from losing two close fights to myself and Shawn Porter. So Errol Spence better not let him land one of those bricks.

But styles make fights, and my gut says Spence wins without a home-run being hit by Garcia. Spence has all of the skills and technique to come out with the 'W' against Garcia, whom I was able to hurt with a big punch in the first round.

Spence has that right hook, which he can land to the temple, and those pot-shots as well as a long and stiff jab to go with a height and reach advantage that led to his complete shutout of Mikey Garcia.

But if Spence has that 'Man-Down philosophy,' and he's not a fighter who plays with his food. When he gets you hurt, he gets you outta there. But it could come down to who lands the biggest punch first, and a lot of folks want to know how Spence is after that car accident.

Andre Berto, Three-Time World Welterweight Champion
Garcia KO 5: Errol Spence's confidence is going to be sky high after battling back from everything he's gone through. But at the same time, it's the accident that's going to cost him in the ring against Danny Garcia.

Both guys are going to come out swinging and tire themselves out, but Danny's going to bring it early and often to make Errol prove he's fully recovered in a donnybrook. My man Garcia's going to keep punching, and then, you know - Blammo! Garcia KO 5.

Yordenis Ugas, WBA World Welterweight Champion
Spence SD 12: I have Errol Spence winning by a split-decision over Danny Garcia. It will be an exciting fight where at times, either will box, and at times, either will bang, but there will be no knockdowns.

Mikey Garcia, Four-Division World Champion
Spence W 12: Danny Garcia will be competitive and have his moments, but Errol Spence will box more effectively and win by a decision.

Robert Guerrero, Three-Time World Champion
Garcia W 12: If Errol Spence boxes the way that he did with Mikey Garcia, he wins by decision over Danny Garcia. If Spence tries to bang it out with Garcia, then he might get knocked out. But I'm going with Danny Garcia to win by decision.

Jamal James, Interim WBA World Welterweight Champion
Spence W 12: I think Errol Spence will win a 12-round decision, but I'm not counting out Danny Garcia.

Julian Williams, Former Unified World Super Welterweight Champion
Garcia W 12: It's basically a 50-50 fight, but I'm leaning toward Danny Garcia to defeat Errol Spence in a close fight. I'm pretty sure that Danny's locked in and extremely motivated, feeling as if everyone is looking past him.

Ronnie Shields, Trainer of Undefeated WBC World Middleweight Champion Jermall Charlo
Spence W 12: I think Errol Spence is going to win a close decision. Danny has a chance if he can start fast and make his presence known with that left hook.

But Garcia's not much of a fast starter, and I think he's going to run into some problems because Spence can out-box him if he chooses to.

Andre Rozier, Trainer of Former World Middleweight Champion Daniel Jacobs
Garcia SD 12: Danny Garcia's family, but he's also the underdog going into this fight with Errol Spence. Still, Danny's hungry to build upon his legacy. Danny has the power to stop Errol, who has tremendous boxing skills, and it could happen in what I believe is going to be a tremendous battle of wills. But I think this fight will go the distance, and in the end, Garcia will win this in a definitive fashion that will secure his trip to the Hall of Fame.

Regis Prograis, Former WBA World Super Lightweight Champion
Spence UD 12: Errol Spence wins by unanimous decision over Danny Garcia.

David Benavidez, Two-Time WBC World Super Middleweight Champion
Spence SD 12: This is a crossroads fight for both of them. Errol Spence wants to demonstrate that he's still the great champion that he was before the car accident, and this may be one of Danny Garcia's greatest opportunities to show he still is a great champion.

It's going to come down to who can dictate the pace and the pressure. I think Errol's pressure could be too much for Garcia, but Spence had problems with the pressure Shawn Porter applied as well. If Spence invests in the body against Danny Garcia, his body shots can slow Garcia down and give Spence the edge. On the other hand, Garcia has that eraser of a left hook. But I'm giving Spence the edge and a decision.

Jose Benavidez Sr., Father and Trainer of David Benavidez
Garcia SD 12: I've got Danny Garcia winning because of his experience taking a split-decision, but it's a 50-50 fight because Errol Spence is younger, has a lot of hunger and weighs a little bit more.

Kevin Cunningham, Trainer of Super Welterweight Contender Erickson Lubin
Spence UD 12: I have Errol Spence winning by unanimous decision over Danny Garcia, but at the same time, I'm like everybody else: I'm waiting to see how Errol Spence's health is after his experiences with the effects of that car accident.

Steve Cunningham, Two-Time World Cruiserweight Champion
Garcia SD 12: I see Danny Garcia winning a close, split-decision over Errol Spence. Garcia's the underdog again, but how many times have we seen this? Garcia was supposed to lose to Erik Morales, Lucas Matthysse, Amir Khan and so many others, but he beat them all. Spence is talented, but I see Garcia fighting with that Philadelphia pride and bringing another world championship home.

Nonito Donaire, Four-Division World Champion
Spence W 12: A lot depends on whether Errol Spence is 100 percent after his car accident. But either way, I anticipate him using his height, reach and ability to fight from a distance. Spence will counter Danny Garcia's power and mid-range fight abilities on the way to winning a close decision.

Abner Mares, Three-Division World Champion
Spence TKO 8: If Errol Spence had not been in that car accident, I would have picked him to defeat Danny Garcia, hands down. But now it's a 50-50 fight because we don't know how he's going to come back from the injuries, physically and mentally.

But it seems like Errol's 100 percent ready to take on the big task of Danny Garcia for the simple fact that his boxing abilities are far superior. I think it's going to be a stoppage. With his skills, Errol Spence knows how to pick you apart round by round.

Danny Garcia's vulnerable because he's a guy that's a big puncher who is always in a fight during any given round, but he opens up a lot. I see Errol Spence out-boxing and breaking him down for a TKO say, by the eighth round.

Vito Mielnicki Jr., Undefeated Welterweight Prospect
Garcia SD 12: This is going to be a tremendous, 50-50 fight that can go either way, with Errol Spence being an excellent boxer with power. Danny Garcia has that one-punch power, so it's a fight where anything can happen. It's really tough to make a choice, but I think Danny will be the winner of a hard-fought split-decision.

Gary Russell, Jr., WBC World Featherweight Champion
Spence W 12: I think Errol Spence may get him, but he can't mess around. Danny Garcia's only got a puncher's chance. Danny has been looking a little sharp and crisp. I edge it out to Errol, but it's not going to be a walk in the park.

If Errol gets reckless, Danny could clip him. I'm going with Errol. I think Errol is going to be more physical and will out-work Danny. Danny is going to look for that one, nice shot. Errol is going to try to work him and rough him up.

Gary Russell, Sr., Trainer of Gary Russell Jr.
Garcia W 12: This fight will be Errol Spence's biggest fight. I like Danny Garcia in this fight, personally. Spence can't go to the body and not get hit. If Danny gets close enough to hit Spence, he is going to fire. Danny has power in both hands. I wouldn't be surprised if Danny upsets Spence.

Gary Antonio Russell, Undefeated Bantamweight Contender
Spence W 12: Danny Garcia has the puncher's power to stop Errol Spence, but I believe Spence is too much for Danny. Spence is too aggressive and has too much dog and tenacity for Danny. I'm just worried about which Errol will come to fight. Will the old Errol be able to perform to his old standard prior to his accident? I feel like Errol can win this fight.

Gary Antuanne Russell, Undefeated Super Lightweight Contender
Spence W 12: Both Errol Spence and Danny Garcia are phenomenal fighters. Style makes fights. Errol Spence is more agile and more of a boxer-puncher. Danny is more of a poised, counter-puncher and seasoned boxer with more in-the-ring experience.

Danny has more of a puncher's chance, having fought champions and ex-champions, beating most of them. Errol definitely has a puncher's chance as well to go with a high IQ and the ability to lure Danny into a position where he can hurt Danny. Errol can knock Danny out with a hard punch or a slew of hard combinations, but Danny could catch Errol with a counter punch, so the fight could go either way. Still, I'm leaning toward Errol Spence, who he has more in his arsenal than Danny.

Chris Colbert, Undefeated Interim WBA World Super Featherweight Champion
Spence UD 12: I see Errol Spence winning by a unanimous decision over Danny Garcia because Garcia's got a granite chin, and we've never seen Garcia buzzed, battered or hurt.

Stephen Fulton, Undefeated Super Bantamweight Contender
Garcia W 12: This places me in a very difficult position because this is a 50-50 fight, a really hard fight to pick, and Errol Spence is the hungry, younger fighter who has a lot of skills. But if I have to pick a winner, I'll go with the underdog, Danny Garcia, because I believe a lot of people are underestimating him, and guys like that can tend to sneak up on you. That's why I'm picking Danny Garcia to rise to the occasion and win a great fight.

Luis Collazo, Former World Welterweight Champion
Garcia KO 10: Errol Spence gets careless too much, and Danny Garcia's got a puncher's chance. I'm going with the underdog, Danny Garcia, by ninth or 10th-round knockout in a helluva fight.

Erislandy Lara, Two-Time World Super Welterweight Champion
Spence W 12: This is going to be a fun fight to watch because both Errol Spence and Danny García are true warriors. Spence is the naturally bigger man and has more tools in his box. Garcia is tough, but I think Spence will be too much for him. Spence wins by decision.

Omar Figueroa Sr., Trainer of Omar Figueroa Jr. & Undefeated WBA World Super Bantamweight Champion Brandon Figueroa
Garcia W 12: Danny Garcia is a smart, great fighter and I like the way that he thinks. I say Danny Garcia wins by decision over Errol Spence.

Erickson Lubin, Super Welterweight Contender
Spence D 12: If Errol Spence isn't affected by the car accident, I have him winning a unanimous decision over Danny Garcia. We already know Danny's going to come to fight and seems more focused than ever. Going off of what I only know right now, I'll say they're going to fight to a draw.

Omar Douglas Jr., Lightweight Contender
Garcia SD 12: I respect Errol Spence for coming back from that car accident and accepting such a tremendous challenge in Danny Garcia, but there are a lot of questions about which Spence will show up after his accident.

I think Spence should have taken a tune-up fight to see where he was before stepping up to this level. I've seen up close that Garcia's one-punch knockout power is special, and I think that will be the difference in him winning a close, split-decision.

Sebastian Fundora, Undefeated Super Welterweight Contender
Spence TKO 10: Errol Spence is the best fighter in the whole division, and I believe he'll come into the ring wanting to prove that in a great fight against Danny Garcia. I know Spence was involved in that terrible car accident after beating Shawn Porter, but I think that he can knock out Garcia.

Ivan Redkach, Welterweight Contender
Garcia SD 12: I like Danny Garcia to win a split-decision over Errol Spence as a result of his timing, punching power and experience. Errol Spence may look good in sparring and training since his car accident but sparring and training are not like being in a real fight, and that's what he's in against Garcia.

Joey Spencer, Undefeated Middleweight Prospect
Spence UD 12: Errol Spence and Danny Garcia are two champions with great chins and good defense, but I'm picking Errol by decision just because of his work-rate.

Danny will be in the fight, will counter effectively and avoid taking too much damage because of his solid defense, but again, he won't sustain the work-rate with Spence.

Richard Commey, Former IBF World Lightweight Champion
Garcia SD 12: Errol Spence is still a great fighter, regardless of what happened with the car accident. But I believe the night will belong to Danny Garcia. I expect Garcia to start fast, pressuring early and using his patience and power to control the fight on the way to winning a decision.

Eimantas Stanionis, Undefeated Welterweight Contender
Spence W 12: This is a very difficult fight for Errol Spence because of his very long layoff and the car accident, so nobody knows how he will feel. But if Spence is the same fighter, I see him winning. Danny Garcia always has that left hook, and he can always hurt you with either his left or right hand. But Spence has good defense, so he may be able to account for that. With all things being considered, I think it will be Errol Spence winning by a decision.

Jonathan Walley, Co-Trainer of Welterweight Contender Sergey Lipinets
Garcia TKO 8: It's a 50-50 fight, and I think Errol Spence tries to box before eventually engaging with Danny Garcia. But that's to the advantage of Garcia, who counter-punches well and I think he'll catch Spence at some point and knock him out.

Final Count:
Spence: 20
Garcia: 16
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Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Danny Garcia - December 5, 2020

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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 03 Dec 2020, 13:02 Predictions: Fighters, Trainers, Hall of Famers

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Of those polled, 20 predicted that Spence would retain his titles, while 16 favored Garcia to come out with the victory on Saturday night. Here is what the predictors had to say about the highly anticipated welterweight clash:

Evander Holyfield, Boxing Legend
Spence W 12: Errol Spence is a very technical fighter, and Danny Garcia's a great counter-puncher. But Errol is the best, so I've got Errol winning by decision.

Bernard Hopkins, Boxing Legend
Garcia UD 12: I believe that Danny Garcia will defeat Errol Spence by unanimous decision in a very hard, tough battle of wills.

Keith Thurman, Former Unified World Welterweight Champion
Spence W 12: Danny Garcia's the biggest puncher I've faced in the ring in my entire professional career. Danny's got great timing and a chip on his shoulder from losing two close fights to myself and Shawn Porter. So Errol Spence better not let him land one of those bricks.

But styles make fights, and my gut says Spence wins without a home-run being hit by Garcia. Spence has all of the skills and technique to come out with the 'W' against Garcia, whom I was able to hurt with a big punch in the first round.

Spence has that right hook, which he can land to the temple, and those pot-shots as well as a long and stiff jab to go with a height and reach advantage that led to his complete shutout of Mikey Garcia.

But if Spence has that 'Man-Down philosophy,' and he's not a fighter who plays with his food. When he gets you hurt, he gets you outta there. But it could come down to who lands the biggest punch first, and a lot of folks want to know how Spence is after that car accident.

Andre Berto, Three-Time World Welterweight Champion
Garcia KO 5: Errol Spence's confidence is going to be sky high after battling back from everything he's gone through. But at the same time, it's the accident that's going to cost him in the ring against Danny Garcia.

Both guys are going to come out swinging and tire themselves out, but Danny's going to bring it early and often to make Errol prove he's fully recovered in a donnybrook. My man Garcia's going to keep punching, and then, you know - Blammo! Garcia KO 5.

Yordenis Ugas, WBA World Welterweight Champion
Spence SD 12: I have Errol Spence winning by a split-decision over Danny Garcia. It will be an exciting fight where at times, either will box, and at times, either will bang, but there will be no knockdowns.

Mikey Garcia, Four-Division World Champion
Spence W 12: Danny Garcia will be competitive and have his moments, but Errol Spence will box more effectively and win by a decision.

Robert Guerrero, Three-Time World Champion
Garcia W 12: If Errol Spence boxes the way that he did with Mikey Garcia, he wins by decision over Danny Garcia. If Spence tries to bang it out with Garcia, then he might get knocked out. But I'm going with Danny Garcia to win by decision.

Jamal James, Interim WBA World Welterweight Champion
Spence W 12: I think Errol Spence will win a 12-round decision, but I'm not counting out Danny Garcia.

Julian Williams, Former Unified World Super Welterweight Champion
Garcia W 12: It's basically a 50-50 fight, but I'm leaning toward Danny Garcia to defeat Errol Spence in a close fight. I'm pretty sure that Danny's locked in and extremely motivated, feeling as if everyone is looking past him.

Ronnie Shields, Trainer of Undefeated WBC World Middleweight Champion Jermall Charlo
Spence W 12: I think Errol Spence is going to win a close decision. Danny has a chance if he can start fast and make his presence known with that left hook.

But Garcia's not much of a fast starter, and I think he's going to run into some problems because Spence can out-box him if he chooses to.

Andre Rozier, Trainer of Former World Middleweight Champion Daniel Jacobs
Garcia SD 12: Danny Garcia's family, but he's also the underdog going into this fight with Errol Spence. Still, Danny's hungry to build upon his legacy. Danny has the power to stop Errol, who has tremendous boxing skills, and it could happen in what I believe is going to be a tremendous battle of wills. But I think this fight will go the distance, and in the end, Garcia will win this in a definitive fashion that will secure his trip to the Hall of Fame.

Regis Prograis, Former WBA World Super Lightweight Champion
Spence UD 12: Errol Spence wins by unanimous decision over Danny Garcia.

David Benavidez, Two-Time WBC World Super Middleweight Champion
Spence SD 12: This is a crossroads fight for both of them. Errol Spence wants to demonstrate that he's still the great champion that he was before the car accident, and this may be one of Danny Garcia's greatest opportunities to show he still is a great champion.

It's going to come down to who can dictate the pace and the pressure. I think Errol's pressure could be too much for Garcia, but Spence had problems with the pressure Shawn Porter applied as well. If Spence invests in the body against Danny Garcia, his body shots can slow Garcia down and give Spence the edge. On the other hand, Garcia has that eraser of a left hook. But I'm giving Spence the edge and a decision.

Jose Benavidez Sr., Father and Trainer of David Benavidez
Garcia SD 12: I've got Danny Garcia winning because of his experience taking a split-decision, but it's a 50-50 fight because Errol Spence is younger, has a lot of hunger and weighs a little bit more.

Kevin Cunningham, Trainer of Super Welterweight Contender Erickson Lubin
Spence UD 12: I have Errol Spence winning by unanimous decision over Danny Garcia, but at the same time, I'm like everybody else: I'm waiting to see how Errol Spence's health is after his experiences with the effects of that car accident.

Steve Cunningham, Two-Time World Cruiserweight Champion
Garcia SD 12: I see Danny Garcia winning a close, split-decision over Errol Spence. Garcia's the underdog again, but how many times have we seen this? Garcia was supposed to lose to Erik Morales, Lucas Matthysse, Amir Khan and so many others, but he beat them all. Spence is talented, but I see Garcia fighting with that Philadelphia pride and bringing another world championship home.

Nonito Donaire, Four-Division World Champion
Spence W 12: A lot depends on whether Errol Spence is 100 percent after his car accident. But either way, I anticipate him using his height, reach and ability to fight from a distance. Spence will counter Danny Garcia's power and mid-range fight abilities on the way to winning a close decision.

Abner Mares, Three-Division World Champion
Spence TKO 8: If Errol Spence had not been in that car accident, I would have picked him to defeat Danny Garcia, hands down. But now it's a 50-50 fight because we don't know how he's going to come back from the injuries, physically and mentally.

But it seems like Errol's 100 percent ready to take on the big task of Danny Garcia for the simple fact that his boxing abilities are far superior. I think it's going to be a stoppage. With his skills, Errol Spence knows how to pick you apart round by round.

Danny Garcia's vulnerable because he's a guy that's a big puncher who is always in a fight during any given round, but he opens up a lot. I see Errol Spence out-boxing and breaking him down for a TKO say, by the eighth round.

Vito Mielnicki Jr., Undefeated Welterweight Prospect
Garcia SD 12: This is going to be a tremendous, 50-50 fight that can go either way, with Errol Spence being an excellent boxer with power. Danny Garcia has that one-punch power, so it's a fight where anything can happen. It's really tough to make a choice, but I think Danny will be the winner of a hard-fought split-decision.

Gary Russell, Jr., WBC World Featherweight Champion
Spence W 12: I think Errol Spence may get him, but he can't mess around. Danny Garcia's only got a puncher's chance. Danny has been looking a little sharp and crisp. I edge it out to Errol, but it's not going to be a walk in the park.

If Errol gets reckless, Danny could clip him. I'm going with Errol. I think Errol is going to be more physical and will out-work Danny. Danny is going to look for that one, nice shot. Errol is going to try to work him and rough him up.

Gary Russell, Sr., Trainer of Gary Russell Jr.
Garcia W 12: This fight will be Errol Spence's biggest fight. I like Danny Garcia in this fight, personally. Spence can't go to the body and not get hit. If Danny gets close enough to hit Spence, he is going to fire. Danny has power in both hands. I wouldn't be surprised if Danny upsets Spence.

Gary Antonio Russell, Undefeated Bantamweight Contender
Spence W 12: Danny Garcia has the puncher's power to stop Errol Spence, but I believe Spence is too much for Danny. Spence is too aggressive and has too much dog and tenacity for Danny. I'm just worried about which Errol will come to fight. Will the old Errol be able to perform to his old standard prior to his accident? I feel like Errol can win this fight.

Gary Antuanne Russell, Undefeated Super Lightweight Contender
Spence W 12: Both Errol Spence and Danny Garcia are phenomenal fighters. Style makes fights. Errol Spence is more agile and more of a boxer-puncher. Danny is more of a poised, counter-puncher and seasoned boxer with more in-the-ring experience.

Danny has more of a puncher's chance, having fought champions and ex-champions, beating most of them. Errol definitely has a puncher's chance as well to go with a high IQ and the ability to lure Danny into a position where he can hurt Danny. Errol can knock Danny out with a hard punch or a slew of hard combinations, but Danny could catch Errol with a counter punch, so the fight could go either way. Still, I'm leaning toward Errol Spence, who he has more in his arsenal than Danny.

Chris Colbert, Undefeated Interim WBA World Super Featherweight Champion
Spence UD 12: I see Errol Spence winning by a unanimous decision over Danny Garcia because Garcia's got a granite chin, and we've never seen Garcia buzzed, battered or hurt.

Stephen Fulton, Undefeated Super Bantamweight Contender
Garcia W 12: This places me in a very difficult position because this is a 50-50 fight, a really hard fight to pick, and Errol Spence is the hungry, younger fighter who has a lot of skills. But if I have to pick a winner, I'll go with the underdog, Danny Garcia, because I believe a lot of people are underestimating him, and guys like that can tend to sneak up on you. That's why I'm picking Danny Garcia to rise to the occasion and win a great fight.

Luis Collazo, Former World Welterweight Champion
Garcia KO 10: Errol Spence gets careless too much, and Danny Garcia's got a puncher's chance. I'm going with the underdog, Danny Garcia, by ninth or 10th-round knockout in a helluva fight.

Erislandy Lara, Two-Time World Super Welterweight Champion
Spence W 12: This is going to be a fun fight to watch because both Errol Spence and Danny García are true warriors. Spence is the naturally bigger man and has more tools in his box. Garcia is tough, but I think Spence will be too much for him. Spence wins by decision.

Omar Figueroa Sr., Trainer of Omar Figueroa Jr. & Undefeated WBA World Super Bantamweight Champion Brandon Figueroa
Garcia W 12: Danny Garcia is a smart, great fighter and I like the way that he thinks. I say Danny Garcia wins by decision over Errol Spence.

Erickson Lubin, Super Welterweight Contender
Spence D 12: If Errol Spence isn't affected by the car accident, I have him winning a unanimous decision over Danny Garcia. We already know Danny's going to come to fight and seems more focused than ever. Going off of what I only know right now, I'll say they're going to fight to a draw.

Omar Douglas Jr., Lightweight Contender
Garcia SD 12: I respect Errol Spence for coming back from that car accident and accepting such a tremendous challenge in Danny Garcia, but there are a lot of questions about which Spence will show up after his accident.

I think Spence should have taken a tune-up fight to see where he was before stepping up to this level. I've seen up close that Garcia's one-punch knockout power is special, and I think that will be the difference in him winning a close, split-decision.

Sebastian Fundora, Undefeated Super Welterweight Contender
Spence TKO 10: Errol Spence is the best fighter in the whole division, and I believe he'll come into the ring wanting to prove that in a great fight against Danny Garcia. I know Spence was involved in that terrible car accident after beating Shawn Porter, but I think that he can knock out Garcia.

Ivan Redkach, Welterweight Contender
Garcia SD 12: I like Danny Garcia to win a split-decision over Errol Spence as a result of his timing, punching power and experience. Errol Spence may look good in sparring and training since his car accident but sparring and training are not like being in a real fight, and that's what he's in against Garcia.

Joey Spencer, Undefeated Middleweight Prospect
Spence UD 12: Errol Spence and Danny Garcia are two champions with great chins and good defense, but I'm picking Errol by decision just because of his work-rate.

Danny will be in the fight, will counter effectively and avoid taking too much damage because of his solid defense, but again, he won't sustain the work-rate with Spence.

Richard Commey, Former IBF World Lightweight Champion
Garcia SD 12: Errol Spence is still a great fighter, regardless of what happened with the car accident. But I believe the night will belong to Danny Garcia. I expect Garcia to start fast, pressuring early and using his patience and power to control the fight on the way to winning a decision.

Eimantas Stanionis, Undefeated Welterweight Contender
Spence W 12: This is a very difficult fight for Errol Spence because of his very long layoff and the car accident, so nobody knows how he will feel. But if Spence is the same fighter, I see him winning. Danny Garcia always has that left hook, and he can always hurt you with either his left or right hand. But Spence has good defense, so he may be able to account for that. With all things being considered, I think it will be Errol Spence winning by a decision.

Jonathan Walley, Co-Trainer of Welterweight Contender Sergey Lipinets
Garcia TKO 8: It's a 50-50 fight, and I think Errol Spence tries to box before eventually engaging with Danny Garcia. But that's to the advantage of Garcia, who counter-punches well and I think he'll catch Spence at some point and knock him out.

Final Count:
Spence: 20
Garcia: 16
You've quoted a great article, and it seems strange that the expert opinions drastically differ from the betting odds.

Vbet rates Spence Jr. as having an 84.2% (3/16) chance of victory, which reasonably represents other betting websites.

In stark contrast, RedZone rates Danny Garcia's chances at 22.7% (17/5).

So it seems that this could be one of those fights, like Joyce-Dubois, where I may be sorely tempted to place a bet on the underdog.

I am often tempted to bet on the underdog in 51/49 or 50-50 type bouts, where the betting odds seem preposterously absurd in nature!
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Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Danny Garcia - December 5, 2020

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I just have to say.. I know no one has mentioned it, but most that have picked DSG, are probably thinking Spence is broken.

Had Spence not had an accident , it may have been more lopsided.
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Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Danny Garcia - December 5, 2020

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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 03 Dec 2020, 15:24 I just have to say.. I know no one has mentioned it, but most that have picked DSG, are probably thinking Spence is broken.

Had Spence not had an accident , it may have been more lopsided.
This is what I wrote about a subsequently postponed Garcia bout during September 2019, prior to Spence Jr’s car crash:
Enlightened-One wrote: 30 Sep 2019, 13:14 The outcome of this fight might be another split or a very close unanimous decision victory for Errol Spence Jr.

I feel that “The Truth” might not be head-and-shoulders above the rest of the welterweight division.

For sure, he’s an excellent fighter, perhaps even the best 147lb-er on the planet, but maybe he isn’t quite as good as all the praise and hype that has been lavished on him during recent years.

I feel that the top-six welterweights (Spence Jr., Crawford, Pacquiao, Thurman, Porter & Garcia) are all capable of beating each other, since the 147lbs division is highly-competitive. There are no easy fights between those guys.
So I’ve always believed that Garcia is easily capable of being extremely competitive against Spence Jr.

And if Spence Jr. isn’t quite as good as he once was prior to the crash (perhaps less than 95%), then I think Garcia scores the upset.

Everything seems to be riding on Spence Jr’s current mindset, which by his own admission, is completely different than before he suffered injuries from the car crash.

And despite whatever the betting websites say, this is a genuine 50-50 or 51-49 type of bout.
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Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Danny Garcia - December 5, 2020

Post by Jeff_lacy_ko »

Spence should dominate this. Garcia poses no threat unlike a porter who can outwork you

Literally the only chance garcia has is spence being damaged goods but given recovery time he will be good
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