Jarrell Miller Banned 2 Years for PED use/violation

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From $5m against AJ at MSG, to this..

What an idiot!

“The terms of this agreement include a 24-month suspension, subject to modification,” Mike Detmer, attorney general for the state of Nevada noted during Wednesday’s hearing. “The respondent will pay for and complete a random drug testing program approved by Nevada. He must also pay for and complete substance abuse program, which is no less than five hours and places an emphasis on psychological and physiological negative effects of PED use.”

He is also required to pay legal fees of $399.74 for the five months

“This is Miller’s third situation like this,” pointed out Commissioner Haun prior to rendering his vote. “I applaud what is put together. If it happens again in Nevada, our approach should be much more severe.”
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surprise, surprise :D ..should be banned for life :o
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It’s backdated..

So 2022!
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He has got off very, very lightly, can also reduce it further by six months if he completes all of the counselling and tests etc...
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Very lightly. His fine isn't even child support money.
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IKSRTFO wrote: 02 Dec 2020, 16:14 Very lightly. His fine isn't even child support money.
That’s court fees.
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Miller's highlight of his career may end up being him pushing AJ at a press conference, for a fight that never took place
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chinarich wrote: 02 Dec 2020, 16:12 He has got off very, very lightly, can also reduce it further by six months if he completes all of the counselling and tests etc...
Good work by his counsel. Let’s hope he can take advantage of this and give us good fights when he returns.
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Might be one to take off my watchlist...

He'll turn up in 2022 at 34 years old with 4 years of inactivity, claiming he's 13 years undefeated and the entire division has been ducking him and he's the bogeyman who deserves a title shot.
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Can he still make money being a sparring partner?
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This is nonsense. Mike Tyson did peds, Lennox Lewis, Holyfield, Tua, RJjr, AJ, Fury, Klitschko x2, White, Ali, Foreman, Fraizer, Povetkin etc.

So now this big bad steroid era of boxing is supposed to be over and everybody is supposed to be playing so fairly and nicely and nobody is doing any peds Wrong, now peds will simply be reserved for those able to buy the undetecable ones and the untouchable inspectors. Bs. Free! Jarrell Miller.
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H8Usernames wrote: 02 Dec 2020, 22:49 This is nonsense. Mike Tyson did peds, Lennox Lewis, Holyfield, Tua, RJjr, AJ, Fury, Klitschko x2, White, Ali, Foreman, Fraizer, Povetkin etc.

So now this big bad steroid era of boxing is supposed to be over and everybody is supposed to be playing so fairly and nicely and nobody is doing any peds Wrong, now peds will simply be reserved for those able to buy the undetecable ones and the untouchable inspectors. Bs. Free! Jarrell Miller.
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I don’t know if this definitely applies to Miller, but for many other suspensions that have been enforced on other fighters, they’re usually back-dated to commence from the date of the initial adverse test result, which means he's already served close to six months of his suspension.

And assuming Miller agrees to fund VADA testing on himself and also undergoes a treatment program, reducing his suspension by six months, then he could make his ring return in about a years’ time (early January 2022).

Superficially-speaking, a two-year suspension sounds harsh, but he’s a third-time offender, and like many other fighters, he couldn’t have fought for most this year anyway. And therefore, in reality, he's only been banned for just over a year.

So I think he’s been let off lightly!
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stevec@france wrote: 03 Dec 2020, 04:32
H8Usernames wrote: 02 Dec 2020, 22:49 This is nonsense. Mike Tyson did peds, Lennox Lewis, Holyfield, Tua, RJjr, AJ, Fury, Klitschko x2, White, Ali, Foreman, Fraizer, Povetkin etc.

So now this big bad steroid era of boxing is supposed to be over and everybody is supposed to be playing so fairly and nicely and nobody is doing any peds Wrong, now peds will simply be reserved for those able to buy the undetecable ones and the untouchable inspectors. Bs. Free! Jarrell Miller.
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Go eat a frog man. Nothing that I said is false and this political correctness "steroids are evil" nonsense has to end. Maybe you are some troll with your two word replies.
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He only us pills for hair growth .... he is innocent ! AJ corrupt his trainer to put something in his burger

i have no interess to watch someone like him.... loser :salut:
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H8Usernames wrote: 02 Dec 2020, 22:49 This is nonsense. Mike Tyson did peds, Lennox Lewis, Holyfield, Tua, RJjr, AJ, Fury, Klitschko x2, White, Ali, Foreman, Fraizer, Povetkin etc.

So now this big bad steroid era of boxing is supposed to be over and everybody is supposed to be playing so fairly and nicely and nobody is doing any peds Wrong, now peds will simply be reserved for those able to buy the undetecable ones and the untouchable inspectors. Bs. Free! Jarrell Miller.

Tyson did but the rest?
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H8Usernames wrote: 02 Dec 2020, 22:49This is nonsense. Mike Tyson did peds, Lennox Lewis, Holyfield, Tua, AJ, [Wladimir] Klitschko, Ali, Foreman, Fraizer etc.
H8Usernames wrote: 03 Dec 2020, 05:29Nothing that I said is false...
False: [ fawls ]

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2. uttering or declaring what is untrue:
  • a false witness.

3. not faithful or loyal; treacherous:
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5. not genuine; counterfeit.

6. based on mistaken, erroneous, or inconsistent impressions, ideas, or facts:
  • false pride.

7. used as a substitute or supplement, especially temporarily:
  • false supports for a bridge.

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  • a false balance.

9. inaccurate in pitch, as a musical note.

adverb

10. dishonestly; faithlessly; treacherously:
  • Did he speak false against me?
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H8Usernames wrote: 03 Dec 2020, 05:29
stevec@france wrote: 03 Dec 2020, 04:32
H8Usernames wrote: 02 Dec 2020, 22:49 This is nonsense. Mike Tyson did peds, Lennox Lewis, Holyfield, Tua, RJjr, AJ, Fury, Klitschko x2, White, Ali, Foreman, Fraizer, Povetkin etc.

So now this big bad steroid era of boxing is supposed to be over and everybody is supposed to be playing so fairly and nicely and nobody is doing any peds Wrong, now peds will simply be reserved for those able to buy the undetecable ones and the untouchable inspectors. Bs. Free! Jarrell Miller.
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Go eat a frog man. Nothing that I said is false and this political correctness "steroids are evil" nonsense has to end. Maybe you are some troll with your two word replies.
you are suggesting that Millers ban is Nonsense and so steroid use is ok.

idiot
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Only naive boobies will believe, that high level professional athletes don't juice up.
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stevec@france wrote: 03 Dec 2020, 08:25
H8Usernames wrote: 03 Dec 2020, 05:29
stevec@france wrote: 03 Dec 2020, 04:32

troll alert
Go eat a frog man. Nothing that I said is false and this political correctness "steroids are evil" nonsense has to end. Maybe you are some troll with your two word replies.
you are suggesting that Millers ban is Nonsense and so steroid use is ok.

idiot
Such a nice innocent little boy that lives in a world of right and wrong. Steroid use wrong, clean living right.

Lets do a mythical matchup here for one second, in your blue corner Ray Leonard jr 22 years old 70 amateur bouts 68-2, 3-0 as a professional vs Billy Bob from the trailerpark 0-15 as an amateur but with a bought pro record of 15-0 as a professional vs tomatocans and hopeless fighters and Billy Bob is ON the Juice baby. Who has the unfair advantage? The idiot who sticks needles in his arms or the son of the boxing genius millionair? Who is it that should get suspended for participating in this bout.

Take your black and white world elsewhere my child.

Lets for one second make the false assumption that Lennox Lewis wasnt on the juice but that Holyfield was, who had the unfair advantage? Certainly wasnt Holyfield.
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H8Usernames wrote: 03 Dec 2020, 13:17
stevec@france wrote: 03 Dec 2020, 08:25
H8Usernames wrote: 03 Dec 2020, 05:29

Go eat a frog man. Nothing that I said is false and this political correctness "steroids are evil" nonsense has to end. Maybe you are some troll with your two word replies.
you are suggesting that Millers ban is Nonsense and so steroid use is ok.

idiot
Such a nice innocent little boy that lives in a world of right and wrong. Steroid use wrong, clean living right.

Lets do a mythical matchup here for one second, in your blue corner Ray Leonard jr 22 years old 70 amateur bouts 68-2, 3-0 as a professional vs Billy Bob from the trailerpark 0-15 as an amateur but with a bought pro record of 15-0 as a professional vs tomatocans and hopeless fighters and Billy Bob is ON the Juice baby. Who has the unfair advantage? The idiot who sticks needles in his arms or the son of the boxing genius millionair? Who is it that should get suspended for participating in this bout.

Take your black and white world elsewhere my child.

Lets for one second make the false assumption that Lennox Lewis wasnt on the juice but that Holyfield was, who had the unfair advantage? Certainly wasnt Holyfield.
Its about an artificial unfair advantage. I'm sure Billy Bob would love some bricks in his gloves too. Having a millionaire father allows Leonard the opportunity to work hard in a good gym and get the wins. Not all fights are equal. Levelling the playing field with steroids is not acceptable because steroids come with risks that most athletes shouldn't be forced to take to compete at a high level using the skills that they worked hard on.
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H8Usernames wrote: 02 Dec 2020, 22:49 This is nonsense. Mike Tyson did peds, Lennox Lewis, Holyfield, Tua, RJjr, AJ, Fury, Klitschko x2, White, Ali, Foreman, Fraizer, Povetkin etc.

So now this big bad steroid era of boxing is supposed to be over and everybody is supposed to be playing so fairly and nicely and nobody is doing any peds Wrong, now peds will simply be reserved for those able to buy the undetecable ones and the untouchable inspectors. Bs. Free! Jarrell Miller.

You might be right, or you might not, but some proof might help with your argument.

That's why we need random 365 day testing.
This 11 week stuff only gives people ideas.

In any case, Miller has been caught numerous times now. He's not even denying it.

Is he even worth defending?
For sure he'll be back.

What would it actually take for him to warrant a life ban?
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“Not pissed but I just couldn’t believe it,” Arum said to BS.com. “I mean how the f--k stupid can you be?”

“He’s going to be talking to us. He wanted to fly to (Las) Vegas to meet with us but with the Covid I don’t want any people in the office,” Arum said. “So we’re gonna do a Zoom call as soon as next week about what we want to do with him in the future, if anything; what he wants to do, discuss the whole thing.”

“I need to talk to Carl and Todd, but at this point I haven’t really given it much thought,” Arum said.

“I wouldn’t be a party to it and certainly ESPN wouldn’t televise it,” Arum said.

“You can’t tell him lights out, pack ‘em up. There always is a future. How bright the future is remains to be seen,” Arum said. “He obviously has had a tremendously adverse impact on his professional boxing career. There’s no question about it. But it is what it is.”
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 08 Dec 2020, 14:57 “Not pissed but I just couldn’t believe it,” Arum said to BS.com. “I mean how the f--k stupid can you be?”

“He’s going to be talking to us. He wanted to fly to (Las) Vegas to meet with us but with the Covid I don’t want any people in the office,” Arum said. “So we’re gonna do a Zoom call as soon as next week about what we want to do with him in the future, if anything; what he wants to do, discuss the whole thing.”

“I need to talk to Carl and Todd, but at this point I haven’t really given it much thought,” Arum said.

“I wouldn’t be a party to it and certainly ESPN wouldn’t televise it,” Arum said.

“You can’t tell him lights out, pack ‘em up. There always is a future. How bright the future is remains to be seen,” Arum said. “He obviously has had a tremendously adverse impact on his professional boxing career. There’s no question about it. But it is what it is.”
miller will have to try and get back into boxing if only to repay the big money paid up front by promoters otherwise he will end up being sued or something ... :-?
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Jarrell Miller Officially Enrolled In Mandated Random Drug Testing Program

For the first time in his boxing career, Jarrell 'Big Baby' Miller has documented proof of cleaning up his act.

The disgraced former heavyweight contender has officially begun random drug testing, submitting to his first test on Wednesday evening. The process was ordered by the Nevada State Athletic Commission (NSAC) earlier this month, requiring Miller to submit to such protocols for a minimum of six months.

“I’m gonna pee in this goddamn cup and keep it moving,” Miller stated while recording the session for his Instagram Live channel. “I don’t even know if I wanna box anymore. I might just become a rapper. You naw’mean, I could just play football at this point.”

The random drug test was the first since earlier this summer, when Brooklyn’s Miller (23-0-1, 20KOs) tested positive for the banned substance GW501516—also known as cardarine and endurobol—prior to a scheduled July 9 headliner on ESPN. Miller was due to face Jerry Forrest live from The Bubble at MGM Grand in Las Vegas, in his first fight since a 4th round knockout of Bogdan Dinu in Nov. 2018.

Instead, he was handed a lengthy suspension by the NSAC backdated to the time of the finding in late June. Miller has the chance to shave six months from his sentence, on the conditions that he enroll in and complete a drug testing program as contracted through Voluntary Anti-Doping Agency (VADA) as well as a substance abuse program, both of which he is required to pay.

Completion of both programs will reduce Miller’s suspension from 24 months to 18, leaving him eligible to return to the ring roughly sometime around January 2022.

Naturally, the brash heavyweight has already set his sights at the top level.

“I’m gonna get a hold of [lineal heavyweight champion] Tyson Fury and I’m gonna smash this fool,” insists Miller. “You wanna know why? Because boxing needs a Big Boy Baby like me. I’m just giving you facts.”

The drug testing scandal marked the second year in a row where Miller was removed from a major fight due to findings in his system. A multi-million dollar payday versus then-unbeaten and unified heavyweight titlist Anthony Joshua vanished last April, when it was learned that Miller came up hot in three separate drug testing samples. It cost him a shot at the heavyweight crown in front of a sold-out crowd at Madison Square Garden in New York City, not far from his Brooklyn hometown.

The opportunity instead went to Andy Ruiz, who stopped Joshua in the 7th round of their DAZN-streamed main event to become the first-ever Mexican boxer to win a piece of the heavyweight crown.

Because he was never officially licensed by the New York State Athletic Commission at the time, Miller was able to avoid a state-issued suspension. Still, he remained on the bench for the duration of the year, before entering a promotional agreement with Top Rank earlier this year. The ongoing coronavirus pandemic delayed his ring return until July, with Top Rank operating all of its post-pandemic business in the Las Vegas bubble.

Doing so required Miller to apply for a boxing license with the state of Nevada, the same step he took in New York prior to the planned fight with Joshua. The matter was handled far more effectively by the NSAC, who treated Miller like a licensed fighter which meant his having to submit to state-mandated pre-fight drug testing.

The distinction was key, as the drug test result allowed the NSAC to issue a temporary suspension while reviewing his case. Miller remained under such status for five months before his case was finally heard and ruled upon during the commission’s monthly agenda hearing on Dec. 2. From there came the issued suspension, which Miller has not legally contested even though he publicly questions the process.

“How is someone in the commission’s office gonna hand me down this sentence, when he never, ever, ever, ever dealt with this kind of problem,” Miller questioned aloud. “Don’t know anything about it other than what he’s reading in articles.

“How many real medical experts did he even call? I know I did. I called all over asking why is this shit in my system? [Former two-time UFC light heavyweight champion] Jon Jones had something in his system for over a year [preceding his scheduled fight with Alexander Gustafsson at T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas]. Then they tried to suspend him again. So what did they do? They sent him over to California, while trying to suspend him over such a small amount in his system that it can’t do nothing for him.”


Nevertheless, Miller is well aware that there exists zero chance of talking his way out of a suspension; rather, proving for the first time in his career that he is a clean athlete.

“Just stay tuned in,” Miller demanded. “This is the first drug test, I know I’m gonna pass the damn thing and just keep it moving.”
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