Sr gives cold replies to HW topics?

[coghaugen11]

Found this quite odd.




Eubank Snr Q&A Nov '20

The legendary Chris Eubank Snr on a visit to Dubai to see friends gives insights into his unique boxing history.


Prediction of Tyson vs Jones Jr:

It is an exhibition.


Prediction of Dubois vs Joyce:

I've not seen enough of these gentlemen.


Prediction of Fury vs Joshua:

I can't comment because covid is the great equalizer. Empty arenas, postponements and what have you - this isn't what either have had to deal with before.


If he ever had ambition to collect other belts:

Yes, we all wanted to unite all the titles when we were in our early twenties but it was never possible in the 90s.

I was the first fighter to speak of uniting all four titles after I beat Benn but it turned out I would have to of sold my soul to do so, which I wasn't prepared to do; unlike so many - if not all - others.


Why we never saw the transatlantic dream bouts:

Instead of being a prostitute for the promoters - then Don King and Bob Arum in the United States for instance - I stood tall and changed the game for the better.

Their fighters were hard enough to beat on their own, but with their influence I would've had it all to do and then some and then be tied to them regardless.

We left it marginally too late, because I lost twice to Collins and then they wouldn't fight me - why would they?

When I got the call to face Joe Calzaghe for the title, I couldn't believe my luck. I wanted respect, I had the money but I didn't have the respect - I got it after that.


On his hardest night:

The Watson number two fight. It was vicious, bitter; like a public execution. At some point, you have to stand up and be counted and prove your worth.


Thoughts on legacies:

I missed my chance to become a great fighter on record by failing to beat Collins in the rematch, losing fair and square and making no excuses.

To become a legend of your own time though is that pyramid top. That's what Nigel Benn achieved by defeating Gerald McClellan - he won the fight he couldn't win; knocked down and battered and still winning against a vicious opponent.

You witness it 'real time', where you'd bet everything on one man losing and they win. That only can be undone by refusing to take another beating.


Fast-tracking:

I actually learned to box in New York. I lived in The Bronx from 16 to 21 and dedicated my life to boxing - no nightclubs, no drinking, no girls.

It was a baptism of fire if there ever was one because I faced World #1 Mark Breland at 17, fought in the 1985 Golden Gloves semi finals in front of 17-19,000 at 18; when they did two-minute rounds to fit in all the semis, and turned Pro at just turned 19!


Real-life Rocky:

My first trainer was Andy Martinez, who looked just like Mickey from Rocky. And the gyms I trained in were just like where Apollo Creed took Rocky to train. I hadn't ever seen the Rocky movies at this point.

The exact Adidas boots Stallone wore for Rocky IV, I already owned in September 1985 when they were first released, for my Pro debut.


Simply the Best:

I faced Anthony Logan in my 12th Pro fight - he was rated 16 by the WBC and nearly beat Nigel Benn, who had all the coverage and all the hype. It was on a Benn undercard. My next fight sold 50 tickets with no TV.

From February 1986 to February 1988 I had only one fight - a four-rounder on a Top Rank card against a fighter of a southpaw stance of which I wasn't expecting - and Bob Arum left after only one round after being told to watch and sign me.

By 1990 I beat Arum's golden boy Benn for the title.

[Fray Bentos]

I always enjoy reading these posts, coghaugen11

[tonyevs]

They say there is no genius without a good helping of madness, and the difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits. Whilst normal people see there is a fine, but clear, line between genius and insanity, Eubank always demonstrates how he doesn't see that line.

[coghaugen11]

They say there is no genius without a good helping of madness, and the difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits. Whilst normal people see there is a fine, but clear, line between genius and insanity, Eubank always demonstrates how he doesn't see that line.

[coghaugen11]

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[coghaugen11]

3:55-4:25

[coghaugen11]

They say there is no genius without a good helping of madness, and the difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits. Whilst normal people see there is a fine, but clear, line between genius and insanity, Eubank always demonstrates how he doesn't see that line.

I hear youuuurrr vooooice.

Jimmy Mac did - he was dead, gone, fornicating blood squirting out of his ears, then Eubank (crying his eyes out) spoke to him in that soft voice and Jimmy Mac opened his eyes and the blood stopped pouring.

Ask Jimmy Tibbs.

[coghaugen11]

[coghaugen11]

[jamesmcdonnell]

They say there is no genius without a good helping of madness, and the difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits. Whilst normal people see there is a fine, but clear, line between genius and insanity, Eubank always demonstrates how he doesn't see that line.

I hear youuuurrr vooooice.

Jimmy Mac did - he was dead, gone, fornicating blood squirting out of his ears, then Eubank (crying his eyes out) spoke to him in that soft voice and Jimmy Mac opened his eyes and the blood stopped pouring.

Ask Jimmy Tibbs.

I must have been unconscious.

[SticknMove]

Found this quite odd.




Eubank Snr Q&A Nov '20

The legendary Chris Eubank Snr on a visit to Dubai to see friends gives insights into his unique boxing history.


Prediction of Tyson vs Jones Jr:

It is an exhibition.


Prediction of Dubois vs Joyce:

I've not seen enough of these gentlemen.


Prediction of Fury vs Joshua:

I can't comment because covid is the great equalizer. Empty arenas, postponements and what have you - this isn't what either have had to deal with before.


If he ever had ambition to collect other belts:

Yes, we all wanted to unite all the titles when we were in our early twenties but it was never possible in the 90s.

I was the first fighter to speak of uniting all four titles after I beat Benn but it turned out I would have to of sold my soul to do so, which I wasn't prepared to do; unlike so many - if not all - others.


Why we never saw the transatlantic dream bouts:

Instead of being a prostitute for the promoters - then Don King and Bob Arum in the United States for instance - I stood tall and changed the game for the better.

Their fighters were hard enough to beat on their own, but with their influence I would've had it all to do and then some and then be tied to them regardless.

We left it marginally too late, because I lost twice to Collins and then they wouldn't fight me - why would they?

When I got the call to face Joe Calzaghe for the title, I couldn't believe my luck. I wanted respect, I had the money but I didn't have the respect - I got it after that.


On his hardest night:

The Watson number two fight. It was vicious, bitter; like a public execution. At some point, you have to stand up and be counted and prove your worth.


Thoughts on legacies:

I missed my chance to become a great fighter on record by failing to beat Collins in the rematch, losing fair and square and making no excuses.

To become a legend of your own time though is that pyramid top. That's what Nigel Benn achieved by defeating Gerald McClellan - he won the fight he couldn't win; knocked down and battered and still winning against a vicious opponent.

You witness it 'real time', where you'd bet everything on one man losing and they win. That only can be undone by refusing to take another beating.


Fast-tracking:

I actually learned to box in New York. I lived in The Bronx from 16 to 21 and dedicated my life to boxing - no nightclubs, no drinking, no girls.

It was a baptism of fire if there ever was one because I faced World #1 Mark Breland at 17, fought in the 1985 Golden Gloves semi finals in front of 17-19,000 at 18; when they did two-minute rounds to fit in all the semis, and turned Pro at just turned 19!


Real-life Rocky:

My first trainer was Andy Martinez, who looked just like Mickey from Rocky. And the gyms I trained in were just like where Apollo Creed took Rocky to train. I hadn't ever seen the Rocky movies at this point.

The exact Adidas boots Stallone wore for Rocky IV, I already owned in September 1985 when they were first released, for my Pro debut.


Simply the Best:

I faced Anthony Logan in my 12th Pro fight - he was rated 16 by the WBC and nearly beat Nigel Benn, who had all the coverage and all the hype. It was on a Benn undercard. My next fight sold 50 tickets with no TV.

From February 1986 to February 1988 I had only one fight - a four-rounder on a Top Rank card against a fighter of a southpaw stance of which I wasn't expecting - and Bob Arum left after only one round after being told to watch and sign me.

By 1990 I beat Arum's golden boy Benn for the title.

Come on he was as batty then as he is now. Used to think it was an act, and it probably was, but he has held on to the act for far too long, without detaching, that he has become the embodiment of it....interesting as he was then it's boring now.

Be an interesting book for a writer to get to the core of that fella if it meets his approval of course.

[coghaugen11]

Found this quite odd.




Eubank Snr Q&A Nov '20

The legendary Chris Eubank Snr on a visit to Dubai to see friends gives insights into his unique boxing history.


Prediction of Tyson vs Jones Jr:

It is an exhibition.


Prediction of Dubois vs Joyce:

I've not seen enough of these gentlemen.


Prediction of Fury vs Joshua:

I can't comment because covid is the great equalizer. Empty arenas, postponements and what have you - this isn't what either have had to deal with before.


If he ever had ambition to collect other belts:

Yes, we all wanted to unite all the titles when we were in our early twenties but it was never possible in the 90s.

I was the first fighter to speak of uniting all four titles after I beat Benn but it turned out I would have to of sold my soul to do so, which I wasn't prepared to do; unlike so many - if not all - others.


Why we never saw the transatlantic dream bouts:

Instead of being a prostitute for the promoters - then Don King and Bob Arum in the United States for instance - I stood tall and changed the game for the better.

Their fighters were hard enough to beat on their own, but with their influence I would've had it all to do and then some and then be tied to them regardless.

We left it marginally too late, because I lost twice to Collins and then they wouldn't fight me - why would they?

When I got the call to face Joe Calzaghe for the title, I couldn't believe my luck. I wanted respect, I had the money but I didn't have the respect - I got it after that.


On his hardest night:

The Watson number two fight. It was vicious, bitter; like a public execution. At some point, you have to stand up and be counted and prove your worth.


Thoughts on legacies:

I missed my chance to become a great fighter on record by failing to beat Collins in the rematch, losing fair and square and making no excuses.

To become a legend of your own time though is that pyramid top. That's what Nigel Benn achieved by defeating Gerald McClellan - he won the fight he couldn't win; knocked down and battered and still winning against a vicious opponent.

You witness it 'real time', where you'd bet everything on one man losing and they win. That only can be undone by refusing to take another beating.


Fast-tracking:

I actually learned to box in New York. I lived in The Bronx from 16 to 21 and dedicated my life to boxing - no nightclubs, no drinking, no girls.

It was a baptism of fire if there ever was one because I faced World #1 Mark Breland at 17, fought in the 1985 Golden Gloves semi finals in front of 17-19,000 at 18; when they did two-minute rounds to fit in all the semis, and turned Pro at just turned 19!


Real-life Rocky:

My first trainer was Andy Martinez, who looked just like Mickey from Rocky. And the gyms I trained in were just like where Apollo Creed took Rocky to train. I hadn't ever seen the Rocky movies at this point.

The exact Adidas boots Stallone wore for Rocky IV, I already owned in September 1985 when they were first released, for my Pro debut.


Simply the Best:

I faced Anthony Logan in my 12th Pro fight - he was rated 16 by the WBC and nearly beat Nigel Benn, who had all the coverage and all the hype. It was on a Benn undercard. My next fight sold 50 tickets with no TV.

From February 1986 to February 1988 I had only one fight - a four-rounder on a Top Rank card against a fighter of a southpaw stance of which I wasn't expecting - and Bob Arum left after only one round after being told to watch and sign me.

By 1990 I beat Arum's golden boy Benn for the title.

Come on he was as batty then as he is now. Used to think it was an act, and it probably was, but he has held on to the act for far too long, without detaching, that he has become the embodiment of it....interesting as he was then it's boring now.

Be an interesting book for a writer to get to the core of that fella if it meets his approval of course.

It's attention seeking. There are other words for it and other explanations but that's basically what it is. From 8 to 16 he was motherless (vital period), from 0 to today he was fatherless (says he showed him no affection), elder brothers ignored him, and then he alienated New Yorkers with his accent.

So there is a need for attention.

[coghaugen11]

Protector

[gp.]

They say there is no genius without a good helping of madness, and the difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits. Whilst normal people see there is a fine, but clear, line between genius and insanity, Eubank always demonstrates how he doesn't see that line.

I would be interested to know what you think Eubank has ever said or done that even heads in the general direction of genius, fine line or no.

[dr_devious]

Thanks for posting this. You've gotta love Nigel Benn

[Steveh583]

with the exception of Benn 2, Eubank wanted absolutely no part in unifying. he was happy being a big fish in a small pond and earning a fortune on the way.

[coghaugen11]

with the exception of Benn 2, Eubank wanted absolutely no part in unifying. he was happy being a big fish in a small pond and earning a fortune on the way.

He signed to unify with Nunn, if he beat Benn again. On the dotted line. Sealed but undelivered (because nobody conceived a draw). He fought another tall southpaw instead, unbeaten Rocchi in Germany...

[coghaugen11]

Thanks for posting this. You've gotta love Nigel Benn

Unbelievable aggression. Maybe the most aggressive there's been.

[tonyevs]

They say there is no genius without a good helping of madness, and the difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits. Whilst normal people see there is a fine, but clear, line between genius and insanity, Eubank always demonstrates how he doesn't see that line.

I would be interested to know what you think Eubank has ever said or done that even heads in the general direction of genius, fine line or no.

He demonstrated a genius fighting/boxing ability - although the genius never followed onto anything original he ever said. He fooled himself that he was clever by simply repeating the words of others vastly more intelligent than himself ... a human parrot of sorts.
Eubank is the flip side of what he believes he projects - his perception of his own genius is merely madness, insanity and stupidity.

[gp.]

They say there is no genius without a good helping of madness, and the difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits. Whilst normal people see there is a fine, but clear, line between genius and insanity, Eubank always demonstrates how he doesn't see that line.

I would be interested to know what you think Eubank has ever said or done that even heads in the general direction of genius, fine line or no.

He demonstrated a genius fighting/boxing ability - although the genius never followed onto anything original he ever said. He fooled himself that he was clever by simply repeating the words of others vastly more intelligent than himself ... a human parrot of sorts.
Eubank is the flip side of what he believes he projects - his perception of his own genius is merely madness, insanity and stupidity.

Really?

He was very tough, hit hard and had decent skills, but I don't think he is the type of fighter you use "genius" about.

[coghaugen11]

However he did it, he was unbeaten until his 44th fight in 10 years with £10mill in the bank when £100 was the weekly wage. That's genius.

[gp.]

However he did it, he was unbeaten until his 44th fight in 10 years with £10mill in the bank when £100 was the weekly wage. That's genius.

Yeah, in that case you are just using the word wrongly.

[tonyevs]

" Genius is an exceptional talent or skill, something above and beyond the norm"

That he was not a particular style of boxer that you feel would qualify as genius is irrelevant. Boxers like footballers, cyclists, sprinters .. or any other sports person are merely gifted athletically .. cognitive and intellectual prowess is not what makes them succeed in their sport; hence why so many earn lots - and spend even more.

Senior certainly qualifies as genius in his sport.

[coghaugen11]

I still don't know how he could just stand completely still in huge fights under huge pressure. Motionless. With everything on the line. Crazy.

[tonyevs]

I think it was his coping strategy to keep him focused for where he needed to mentally be.

Nigel Benn needed to get angry to keep him focused to where he needed to be .. different fighters use different things to handle the stress.

... and of course; Senior is just odd!