Round-by-Round: Billy Joe Saunders vs. Martin Murray - 4 December 2020

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Re: Round-by-Round: Billy Joe Saunders vs. Martin Murray - 4 December 2020

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margaret thatcher wrote: 04 Dec 2020, 18:50
THEBUTCH wrote: 04 Dec 2020, 18:49 How's camp Eddie going to spin this one :lol:
masterclass, so skillful, outboxes canelo
Blaspheme! :oo
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Re: Round-by-Round: Billy Joe Saunders vs. Martin Murray - 4 December 2020

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Terminator666 wrote: 04 Dec 2020, 18:51 Very predictable outcome
Exactly .
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Re: Round-by-Round: Billy Joe Saunders vs. Martin Murray - 4 December 2020

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If Saunders can get the Alvarez fight soon, I reckon he could win not taking into account Alverzis judges
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Re: Round-by-Round: Billy Joe Saunders vs. Martin Murray - 4 December 2020

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Predictably one sided shut out win for Saunders, should've had at least a point off for various fouls, use of the head especially, regardless it was a woeful fight, all the excitement of a young up and coming prospect fighting a cagey journeyman, Murray offered nothing aprart from some grit and a handful of body attacks, Saunders boxed well i suppose, jabbed well, hurt Murray to the body a few times, landed some quality uppercuts and hooks around the side but never mounted any real attacks afterwards, just stepped back and got back on the jab, he really should be getting Murray out of there regardless of power or Murray's durability, ive zero interest in the Canelo fight
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Re: Round-by-Round: Billy Joe Saunders vs. Martin Murray - 4 December 2020

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Terminator666 wrote: 04 Dec 2020, 18:54 If Saunders can get the Alvarez fight soon, I reckon he could win not taking into account Alverzis judges
i think canelo is simply too good for him, never thought saunders was this master boxer a lot seem to think, those ppl are all very selective with his performances
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Re: Round-by-Round: Billy Joe Saunders vs. Martin Murray - 4 December 2020

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Fair play to Edgar, talking absolute sense about Bill
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Re: Round-by-Round: Billy Joe Saunders vs. Martin Murray - 4 December 2020

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Tennyson always brings excitement, at least it will be fun seeing him in a title contest.

Great display by Billy Joe. One-sided bout but flawless by Saunders.

Good wins by undercarders.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Billy Joe Saunders vs. Martin Murray - 4 December 2020

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CaptainSpacerod wrote: 04 Dec 2020, 17:40 “He beats Davis now”

Shut up Johnny
Amen. Would say I couldn't believe it when he said that but knowing Nelson's punditry I wasn't shocked, says it all. I do enjoy watching Tennyson however, exciting fighter but please be sensible Johnny ffs.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Billy Joe Saunders vs. Martin Murray - 4 December 2020

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Martin Murray is a nice guy and all that but I hope I never have to watch one of his fights again,its fckin painful. How did he manage to get 5 world title fights?
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Re: Round-by-Round: Billy Joe Saunders vs. Martin Murray - 4 December 2020

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margaret thatcher wrote: 04 Dec 2020, 18:57
Terminator666 wrote: 04 Dec 2020, 18:54 If Saunders can get the Alvarez fight soon, I reckon he could win not taking into account Alverzis judges
i think canelo is simply too good for him, never thought saunders was this master boxer a lot seem to think, those ppl are all very selective with his performances
sure. like he was 'simply too good' the both times he fought golovkin.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Billy Joe Saunders vs. Martin Murray - 4 December 2020

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bjs aint ggg, and ggg didn't beat canelo :TU:
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Re: Round-by-Round: Billy Joe Saunders vs. Martin Murray - 4 December 2020

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Surprisingly it was Murray who made the fight a bit ho-hum.
I took me a while to watch it, kept pausing and wandering off :lol:
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Re: Round-by-Round: Billy Joe Saunders vs. Martin Murray - 4 December 2020

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margaret thatcher wrote: 04 Dec 2020, 18:57
Terminator666 wrote: 04 Dec 2020, 18:54 If Saunders can get the Alvarez fight soon, I reckon he could win not taking into account Alverzis judges
i think canelo is simply too good for him, never thought saunders was this master boxer a lot seem to think, those ppl are all very selective with his performances
I say he IS this master boxer !

He’s 30-0 2 wt. WC and an underachieving waste of talent.
If he ate right and lived the life he’d just be moving up to MW now ! He’d be 35-0 and having beaten a load of good names at SW
He isn’t that obviously, but it’s not ‘cos of a lack of skillz.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Billy Joe Saunders vs. Martin Murray - 4 December 2020

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skanksta wrote: 04 Dec 2020, 19:40
margaret thatcher wrote: 04 Dec 2020, 18:57
Terminator666 wrote: 04 Dec 2020, 18:54 If Saunders can get the Alvarez fight soon, I reckon he could win not taking into account Alverzis judges
i think canelo is simply too good for him, never thought saunders was this master boxer a lot seem to think, those ppl are all very selective with his performances
I say he IS this master boxer !

He’s 30-0 2 wt. WC and an underachieving waste of talent.
If he ate right and lived the life he’d just be moving up to MW now ! He’d be 35-0 and having beaten a load of good names at SW
He isn’t that obviously, but it’s not ‘cos of a lack of skillz.
lol im not a casual mate, 2 weights means eff all when you win it vs the like of isufi, fair enough if that impresses you

he's good but not beating nelo
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Re: Round-by-Round: Billy Joe Saunders vs. Martin Murray - 4 December 2020

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skanksta wrote: 04 Dec 2020, 19:40
margaret thatcher wrote: 04 Dec 2020, 18:57
Terminator666 wrote: 04 Dec 2020, 18:54 If Saunders can get the Alvarez fight soon, I reckon he could win not taking into account Alverzis judges
i think canelo is simply too good for him, never thought saunders was this master boxer a lot seem to think, those ppl are all very selective with his performances
I say he IS this master boxer !

He’s 30-0 2 wt. WC and an underachieving waste of talent.
If he ate right and lived the life he’d just be moving up to MW now ! He’d be 35-0 and having beaten a load of good names at SW
He isn’t that obviously, but it’s not ‘cos of a lack of skillz.
Ah the “if” argument, well lots and lots of fighters would have had much greater success if.... BJS has looked solid but never amazing against pretty bang average opposition, looked a lot better at domestic level, Canelo won’t be losing sleep over him.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Billy Joe Saunders vs. Martin Murray - 4 December 2020

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Going from a completely uneducated view of training a boxer, everyone and I mean everyone predicted this outcome, so why wouldn't the trainer of Murray say to him if you do your usual the outcome will be a wide decision loss, so you need to do something different.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Billy Joe Saunders vs. Martin Murray - 4 December 2020

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I`ve seen enough of Saunders beating up dog meat :D When is he gonna get a real fight?

There are several great fights out there for him and Hearn needs to make them. Top class boxer but can he do it at the real top level, we need to find out.

I think Canelo stops him, but fancy him against any of the others if he can put a bit more pop on his shots
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Re: Round-by-Round: Billy Joe Saunders vs. Martin Murray - 4 December 2020

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Old bones Ian wrote: 04 Dec 2020, 20:03 Going from a completely uneducated view of training a boxer, everyone and I mean everyone predicted this outcome, so why wouldn't the trainer of Murray say to him if you do your usual the outcome will be a wide decision loss, so you need to do something different.
Old dog new tricks - this has been his style really since day one, but just pulled the trigger more and threw more combinations and those are really age related.

Perhaps he would still be intriguing against Richards for the British although to be honest I think Richards would throw too many punches.

Martin has always been a strong, tough, good defence, good engine - but the lack of pop (particularly at Super Middle) was an issue and probably was more of a product of the era he was fighting in when it came to his title shots..... I would have always tipped Macklin and Barker against him I think (although Macklin would have especially been interest as Matt did have a slight stamina question down the straight) - Andy Lee, I think less really was known about Andy Lee at world level to pass judgement - although his very close defeat to Saunders does look better now. I was convinced Murray's fight with Groves' was for Groves' WBA belt, getting also and memory plays tricks with me.

People do forget he was an actual world champion of sorts winning the WBA interim title - that actually Golovkin later held (and actually people were calling Golokin a world champion even then).
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Re: Round-by-Round: Billy Joe Saunders vs. Martin Murray - 4 December 2020

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stujones wrote: 04 Dec 2020, 22:20
Old bones Ian wrote: 04 Dec 2020, 20:03 Going from a completely uneducated view of training a boxer, everyone and I mean everyone predicted this outcome, so why wouldn't the trainer of Murray say to him if you do your usual the outcome will be a wide decision loss, so you need to do something different.
Old dog new tricks - this has been his style really since day one, but just pulled the trigger more and threw more combinations and those are really age related.

Perhaps he would still be intriguing against Richards for the British although to be honest I think Richards would throw too many punches.

Martin has always been a strong, tough, good defence, good engine - but the lack of pop (particularly at Super Middle) was an issue and probably was more of a product of the era he was fighting in when it came to his title shots..... I would have always tipped Macklin and Barker against him I think (although Macklin would have especially been interest as Matt did have a slight stamina question down the straight) - Andy Lee, I think less really was known about Andy Lee at world level to pass judgement - although his very close defeat to Saunders does look better now. I was convinced Murray's fight with Groves' was for Groves' WBA belt, getting also and memory plays tricks with me.

People do forget he was an actual world champion of sorts winning the WBA interim title - that actually Golovkin later held (and actually people were calling Golokin a world champion even then).
Richards?
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Re: Round-by-Round: Billy Joe Saunders vs. Martin Murray - 4 December 2020

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if he had been upgraded to regular wba champ like ggg did straight after winning the interim belt he'd prob get called a former world champ
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Re: Round-by-Round: Billy Joe Saunders vs. Martin Murray - 4 December 2020

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A mismatch and shotout, just as everyone saw it since the moment of the announcement of this bout. Saunders was in good shape. Hopefully he fights Canelo, Plant or Benavidez next and no more wastes his prime time (hell, I'm telling this stuff after every his fight). Or maybe he faces Andrade finally, who is even in a more woeful situation.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Billy Joe Saunders vs. Martin Murray - 4 December 2020

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Andrade next. And it'll be horrible.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Billy Joe Saunders vs. Martin Murray - 4 December 2020

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Right up until beating Lee for the MW title , Saunders resume was very good, after that it plummeted
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Re: Round-by-Round: Billy Joe Saunders vs. Martin Murray - 4 December 2020

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CaptainSpacerod wrote: 04 Dec 2020, 17:40 “He beats Davis now”

Shut up Johnny
Did Company Johnny really say that ? what a bozo, any normal set up would get rid of the clown ASAP
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