No Mas: 40 Years Later, What Really Happened?

[Onetimeonly]

It's insulting, Leonard was my most hated fighter yet I've defended him more times than I can count against a guy who 'loved' him.

Elmer has always been pathetic, this takes the cake.

[elmersalsa]

You'll have to forgive Elmer, Leonard was his second favorite fighter.

And he is. Actually, my 3rd favorite behind Duran and Ali.

you are so full of crap. You hate Leonard, just admit it. The only reason that you pretend that you like him is so that you act like you are being objective when comparing him to Duran. You have let it slip over the years your hatred of Leonard.

I have never hated Sugar Ray. I just don't believe that he was a better fighter than the Hands of Stone. Both are my favorite boxers.

Include James Toney, Muhammad Ali, Kid Gavilan, Vicente Saldivar, Bobby Chacon, Julio Cesar Chavez, Manny Pacquiao and Eusebio Pedroza.

[Ambling Alp II]

Yes you hate Leonard. You once said that Leonard wasn't a real fighter. That says it all. He not only isn't one your favorites, but he is someone that you hate. You simply aren't being honest.

[Jeff_lacy_ko]

Didnt he say he had the poops? Thats good enough for me id quit too

[BroughtonRulesRefuge]

Didnt he say he had the poops? Thats good enough for me id quit too

- Duran was too embarrassed to admit that and network tv sure wouldn't allow it, hence couched in stomach cramps that accompany such a "big" event.

That this is the history section where history continues to be mangled and adulterated over 40 years later ain't complementary to this section. I knew it being out of college and finally able to indulge my fandom for both fighters, the Welter Fight of the Century.

Randy Gordon confirmed his personal eyewitness account in the post fight Duran dressing room when Duran stormed in with nary a word to make for his throne where much hue and cry and splattering was heard.

He was at the weighin where Duran had been training the last month on a starvation diet. One of his friends lobbed a grapefruit over the crowd that he caught and inhaled whole like a wild animal. The 2nd met the same fate. Finally they made for the hotel dining room where he inhaled 2 steak dinners with several pitchers of OJ and had a 3rd sent up to his room a couple hrs before the fight.

I'm guessing he entered the ring carrying 15 lb of steak dinners. The fight was nothing as Ray ran and Duran lumbered that stimulated the journey of the mess to culmination.

When he quit it was a dismissal of Ray saying in Spanish I'm not fighting this clown, or more likely maricon , and sure enough Ray pounced on his back to hit on him like a coward. End of story save for Cosell who as a non honest broker of the truth made up no mas on the spot.

As to the rubber, it would've been the biggest fight of all save Ray playing cutesy sissy. Many years later for that 3rd Ray ran from the near 40 Duran with something around 90 hard fights and maybe 400 rds of wear. Even so Duran managed to cut him up that probably scared poor Ray even more.

39-3 isn't it? Pretty light in the loafers. Duran was never a nice kissy guy, but the length of his career fighting so many top fighters has aged well. Marv utmost Duran respect with none for Ray, so what else to say?

[Ambling Alp II]

Hos own trainer said that he simply quit and that was all there was to it.

[elmersalsa]

Yes you hate Leonard. You once said that Leonard wasn't a real fighter. That says it all. He not only isn't one your favorites, but he is someone that you hate. You simply aren't being honest.

You're wrong and off-based. I have always rooted for Sugar Ray, except when he fought The Hands of Stone.

He was my third favorite fighter of the 70s decade behind Duran and Ali.

[Onetimeonly]

Yes you hate Leonard. You once said that Leonard wasn't a real fighter. That says it all. He not only isn't one your favorites, but he is someone that you hate. You simply aren't being honest.

You're wrong and off-based. I have always rooted for Sugar Ray, except when he fought The Hands of Stone.

He was my third favorite fighter of the 70s decade behind Duran and Ali.

[Tuan_Jim]

Broughton wrong as usual. Cossell did not make up "No mas" on the spot -- it came from Octavio Meyran in the post fight press conference, when he told reporters what Duran had said to him.

[elmersalsa]

Yes you hate Leonard. You once said that Leonard wasn't a real fighter. That says it all. He not only isn't one your favorites, but he is someone that you hate. You simply aren't being honest.

You're wrong and off-based. I have always rooted for Sugar Ray, except when he fought The Hands of Stone.

He was my third favorite fighter of the 70s decade behind Duran and Ali.

What are you laughing? I rooted for Sugar Ray both times against The Hitman.

[Nile4000]

You were teased in school that your hero lost to your other hero? In Panama?

Sugar Ray was my Mercedes Benz.
Duran was my Rolls Royce.

Understand?

Interesting, but cool analogy.

[Onetimeonly]

You're wrong and off-based. I have always rooted for Sugar Ray, except when he fought The Hands of Stone.

He was my third favorite fighter of the 70s decade behind Duran and Ali.

What are you laughing? I rooted for Sugar Ray both times against The Hitman.

[Ambling Alp II]

Yes you hate Leonard. You once said that Leonard wasn't a real fighter. That says it all. He not only isn't one your favorites, but he is someone that you hate. You simply aren't being honest.

You're wrong and off-based. I have always rooted for Sugar Ray, except when he fought The Hands of Stone.

He was my third favorite fighter of the 70s decade behind Duran and Ali.

Why would you say that your third favorite fighter was not a real fighter?

[tennessee]

He was getting frustrated and had to go poo. Simple as that.

[detamour]

Duran like hagler was a bully, both had Issues if you never stood and fought there fights like cavemen. Both, complained about running well learn to cut the fornicating ring off fools!!

[Duran1970]

Duran and Hagler fought like cavemen?

[Caractacus]

I think Roberto Duran had said he had eatin too many bowls of "Flan" the evening before.
There may be something to that if he is "Lactose intolerant".
as a matter of fact I had four servings (in those plastic cup things, 4 in a pack) of Caramel Flan last week that were on sale at the grocery store ,I ate them one after another and not too long afterwards I didn't feel so good either.