Anthony Joshua vs. Kubrat Pulev - 12 December 2020

Who wins?

Poll ended at 12 Dec 2020, 15:37

Joshua - Decision
11
11%
Joshua - T/KO
74
71%
DRAW
4
4%
Pulev - T/KO
13
13%
Pulev - Decision
2
2%
 
Total votes: 104

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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Kubrat Pulev - 12 December 2020

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Why do I wanna pay 24.95 when I pay £50 for a year and get all the channels , I the card isn’t worth the money , I never use it mind paying for the boxing if the card or fight was worth the money

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dan28uk wrote: 08 Dec 2020, 09:51 I watch the fights on purestreams so don’t have to pay for ppvs but my Bulgarian friend at work wants to watch is there any other good steamings sites showing the fight ?
Just buy the fight and watch it properly. Save yourself the fuss.
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Purses

AJ taking a massive pay cut.

No set purses for the fight aparently.

AJ expected to take home in the region of £10m.

Pulev expected to take around £3m.
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 09 Dec 2020, 05:08
believe you me
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However, both fighters could exceed those figures as pay-per-view numbers are expected to be higher than normal given the lack of spectators allowed at the event.
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Kubrat Pulev - 12 December 2020

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rd350lc wrote: 08 Dec 2020, 15:45
gregregegg wrote: 07 Dec 2020, 20:56
forcefraser wrote: 07 Dec 2020, 19:29 Wht would anyone pay 25 quid for this when you can get it on DAZN for £1.99?
Its not on Dazn UK. because AJ has an exclusive contract with sky i think. But you could VPN to a different country and DAZN it i guess.
You used to be able to buy snide dazn passes on eBay for accounts overseas .
Not one on there now .
DAZN USA are blocking most VPNs so it’s tricky to get the US feed here in uk....I’m certainly not giving Sky 25 quid & having to put up with that God awful commentary team.
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Tyson Fury, David Haye, Dillian Whyte and more give their opinions

Whyte told SkyBet: “You know what? It is a run-out for Joshua. He’s just had two hard fights back to back, emotionally more than physically. So smart business, the Pulev fight. Pulev is old now and he was never really great in his heyday. He [Joshua] is happy to take care of his mandatory duties. So it’s a keep-busy fight.” Joshua

Haye told Sky: “I definitely think it’s a good fight for AJ. Big, Eastern-European guy who stands up straight, very tall, very strong, only ever lost to Klitschko. And in that fight he had a good go against Klitschko. So he’s got the power to cause some issues for people. He’s a rough tough guy that AJ will need to be in his best form for. But, if he is, I think he wipes the floor with Pulev. I think he’s significantly better.” Joshua

Eubank Sr. told the Express: “There are a few important variables that are important in this fight. Firstly, the way each fighter internalises this pandemic is an issue on top of what the fighters already have to manage. So much already depends upon this fight; the COVID factor adds an extra dimension to what in isolation is always harrowing. All things being normal, AJ has the better boxing IQ as proven in his contest against Andy Ruiz Jr, in a rematch I couldn’t see him winning because I thought he would try to use his power. Instead, he used his boxing IQ and took the championship titles back in impressive boxing form. If all is normal then AJ is no doubt the favourite. But because nothing is normal in these peculiar times, I suspect Pulev might win this fight and if I were a betting man, which I’m not, that’s where my money would be.” Pulev

Parker told SecondsOut: “I know Pulev will come game, that’s a fight he’s wanted for a while. But Joshua, we’ve seen him come back from losing to Andy Ruiz and putting on a good display of boxing. I think he’ll just be too quick and too experienced.” Joshua

Arum told Gary Newbon Sports Show: “I’m involved with everybody, including Eddie [Hearn]. I said ‘don’t make plans so quick for a Fury-Joshua fight because I think Pulev is going to beat Joshua.’ Let me explain my theory. Joshua got knocked out by Andy Ruiz, who is not a puncher, never been a puncher, and I know that because thirty odd fights that Ruiz had, we promoted. He has quick hands, he’s not a bad heavyweight, but he’s not a puncher. He devastated Joshua and knocked him out. So I think Joshua is still vulnerable and Pulev is a real tough, rugged heavyweight.” Pulev KO

Fury told iFL TV: “It’s heavyweight boxing, especially someone as big as they are, either could win. If Andy Ruiz can knock Joshua out, then Pulev definitely can. Pulev’s a lot bigger guy and punches probably harder than Ruiz does.” Sitting on the fence
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Kubrat Pulev - 12 December 2020

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Lots of talk coming from Matchroom and their fans that Joshua's resume is better than Fury's whilst Fury has the better wins.

But really, Joshua's best wins are against Wlad - 41 at the time, coming of a loss and 18 months out. Povetkin - 39 at the time and someway past his best (lets not pretend 1 excellent punch against Whyte erases the fact that he looks somewhat shot).
And beating Pulev also 39 will probably be his 3rd best win.

Since winning the title against the terrible Charles Martin, he beat two c level opponents in Brezeale and Molina, and then beat a late replacement in Takam in a tough ish fight post Wlad. He then struggled to do anything effective against Parker and had the ref on his side negating the opportunity for any inside work. Then after Povetkin he goes 1-1 with Andy Ruiz (!).

When you look at it like that, he's beaten some old men and fought timidly against two younger opponents who don't have any signature wins themselves.

I think Joshua beats Pulev handily on Saturday but lets put his record into perspective. I'm not saying Fury's is much if any better but AJ really hasn't done much since Wlad and that was 3.5 years ago.
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Joshua's cv better than Fury's?

Joshua got comfortably outboxed and stopped by Andy Ruiz Jr. Nobody will comfortably outbox Fury.
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Here's a deal breaker.....how about we pay £29.99 but absolutely NO commentary during the fight ? :maybe:
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Jimmy2020 wrote: 09 Dec 2020, 08:32 Joshua's cv better than Fury's?

Joshua got comfortably outboxed and stopped by Andy Ruiz Jr. Nobody will comfortably outbox Fury.
Joshua wasn't outboxed by Ruiz, he was overwhelmed by him. And he outboxed Ruiz comfortably in the rematch.

Anyway, neither he nor anybody else will outbox Fury indeed.
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DrDuke wrote: 09 Dec 2020, 09:59
Jimmy2020 wrote: 09 Dec 2020, 08:32 Joshua's cv better than Fury's?

Joshua got comfortably outboxed and stopped by Andy Ruiz Jr. Nobody will comfortably outbox Fury.
Joshua wasn't outboxed by Ruiz, he was overwhelmed by him. And he outboxed Ruiz comfortably in the rematch.

Anyway, neither he nor anybody else will outbox Fury indeed.
Agreed. The Ruiz loss has made him a better fighter you'd think. Much less likely to take risks he doesn't need to take going for a finish. It will make him more boring to watch but he's already achieved cross over status like Mayweather. All he has to do is win, by whatever means.
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Pulev is making 3 times less this weekend than what he would have gotten in 2017..
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30 notes for adverts every 10 mins and between rounds and having to listen to growler smith and his set of eddie's ballbag kissers...nah ta
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Jimmy2020 wrote: 09 Dec 2020, 08:32 Joshua's cv better than Fury's?

Joshua got comfortably outboxed and stopped by Andy Ruiz Jr. Nobody will comfortably outbox Fury.
Sorry but if you watch the fight the you will see that Ruiz got knocked down , given a count then got off the canvas and knew he was about to get KO`D so started throwing leather .
AJ went in too quick to finish it and got suckered by a solid head punch , kind of lost the plot leading to the TKO stoppage , at no point was he outboxed in either fight .

I doubt Fury will be willing to take a fight with Ruiz so we will never see a comparison.
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blanca wrote: 09 Dec 2020, 10:33 30 notes for adverts every 10 mins and between rounds and having to listen to growler smith and his set of eddie's ballbag kissers...nah ta
yes I have had my fornicating fill of Voltarol !
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Kubrat Pulev - 12 December 2020

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Fury beat Klitschko when he was the top dog in the division, Chisora twice when he was Number 2 heavyweight in UK, and probably at the peak of his career, and Wilder twice (ignore the cards) when he was accepted as equivalent to Fury/Joshua.

Joshua has consistently beaten more world level heavyweights with one defeat. I don't think he has a standout win though.

Also, I found out lots more about AJ in the first fight than the second Ruiz was in disgraceful shape last December, and yet he still caused AJ problems when he got close. He simply had zero engine to do the job properly.

Will be interesting in this fight on Saturday to see how Pulev approaches the fight. We know he's got plenty of heart, but not a great chin. His head movement against Wlad was shocking. And he's only got older since then....
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stevec@france wrote: 09 Dec 2020, 10:34
blanca wrote: 09 Dec 2020, 10:33 30 notes for adverts every 10 mins and between rounds and having to listen to growler smith and his set of eddie's ballbag kissers...nah ta
yes I have had my fornicating fill of Voltarol !
What about the joy of movement though?
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garethhop wrote: 09 Dec 2020, 10:37Will be interesting in this fight on Saturday to see how Pulev approaches the fight. We know he's got plenty of heart, but not a great chin. His head movement against Wlad was shocking. And he's only got older since then....
What makes you say he hasn't got a great chin?
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs. Kubrat Pulev - 12 December 2020

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Perhaps overly harsh but he was down twice very early from Wlad and when I rewatched, there is a case for that fight to be stopped a lot earlier than the 5th round!
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Hughie Fury, showing shades Usyk
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