Hughie Fury fight with Wach was better than I thought it would be

[joe strong]

It wasn't a bad scrap at all. Lots of punches thrown, some controversy with the clash of heads & a ref who did an outstanding job in my opinion. Fury really stepped it up once he realized he had a bad cut. He had the bad gash against Fred Kassi & the public called him a quitter looking for a way out. Then he suffered that bad cut against Pulev in the final eliminator which hindered his performance. He really stepped it up this time as he probably thought "not this again" & he didn't let it bother him. He actually fought much more aggressively & didn't allow Wach to get off first after that. It was a pretty close fight up until the cut. His cutman did an outstanding job as it was a pretty nasty cut. I was actually impressed with the ref as he was allowing them to fight in a phonebooth throughout the fight. He let them fight out of it & it helped the flow of the fight. Wach is a really good gatekeeper & should continue to get fights for as long as he wants to stay active. He is 40 but he is big & durable, he throws a lot of punches (not much power)& has that granite chin. He has no trouble going 10 rounds even though he doesn't always look in great shape. He is not a big threat to any top 25 guy but he can certainly give them tough rounds with that odd chance of scoring an upset. No question this was Hughie's best win. I had really low expectations for this fight but was pleasantly surprised. I couldn't help but notice that Fury was 247lbs & looked pretty decent. Not too big or not to fleshy. He has a lot of experience for a HW that is only 26. He has been around for a long time & the funny thing is he was a boy fighting men for a lot of years. Now he is a man & I am interested to see how he does moving forward. He already called out Pulev & Povetkin for rematches which I doubt will happen but props to him. He finally has a decent scalp under the win column. Sure Wach is 40 & about a C+ gatekeeper at this point but still a good win in my opinion.

[margaret thatcher]

he panicked with the cuts vs kassi and pulev, the biggest props i give him here are that he handled it well this time

[brilo33]

i wrote this earlier on another thread ,i was pleased with hughies win, showed aggression went after wach showed something a bit different didnt panic with the eye either , promising win needs to back it up now , still hasnt filled out yet, he will win a world title i think, i agree with you on a lot wach was a good oppo also biggest hughie has ever faced. i thought it was his best win

[brilo33]

he panicked with the cuts vs kassi and pulev, the biggest props i give him here are that he handled it well this time

Knew you would come on board the hughie train

[bobcatbox]

Just can’t get excited about Hughie... and I want to.
Thought the fight was overall boring.

[DrDuke]

It was a decent fight. Hughie lost the first round on my card, but since the next one he was always pushing the pace and making it a fight, even after he had been cut. He managed to shake Wach on a couple of occasions. His best performance against anybody more or less known.

[greg]

..decent but nothing spectacular consdering his opponent's age and resume: 50% losses over the last 4 years..

[JC]

Only caught the second half, so missed the more exciting action. Fury looked the best I've seen him, but Wach is also probably the perfect opponent for Hughie's style: always coming forward but with no head movement and slow hands.

[watsupdoc87]

My Portuguese mate calls him huggy fury

[Enlightened-One]

Here's a list of today’s most popular heavyweight prospects (listed in descending age order):

• Evgenyi Romanov
• Joe Joyce
• Magomedrasul Medzhidov
• Arslanbek Makhmudov
• Ivan Dychko
• Alen Babic
• Tony Yoka
• Filip Hrgović
• Frank Sanchez
• Agit Kabayel
• Efe Ajagba
• Bakhodir Jalolov
• Hughie Fury
• Vladyslav Sirenko
• Daniel Dubois
• Jared Anderson

The only fighter from the above list whose most recent victory came against an opponent that was superior than Mariusz Wach, was Joe Joyce’s stoppage of Daniel Dubois.

For instance, Tony Yoka went the distance with Christian Hammer during his most recent outing, but the man he beat had previously suffered a sixth-round stoppage loss to Mariusz Wach.

The only fighters younger than Hughie Fury from the above list is Jared Anderson, Daniel Dubois and Vladyslav Sirenko.

Excluding Agit Kabayel, all of these guys made their professional debuts around the same time or after Hughie Fury’s highly-contested failed WBO world heavyweight title challenge.

Hughie Fury has competed in 28 fights, more than any of the fighters listed above. And excluding Agit Kabayel, the rest of them have only competed in 16 contests or less.

When Hughie Fury was only 24 years of age, he’d already challenged for the WBO world heavyweight title and engaged in highly competitive bouts against the likes of Alexander Povetkin, Kubrat Pulev and Joseph Parker (two world champions and one two-time title challenger).

And as recently as last weekend, ESPN and The RING still considered Povetkin, Pulev and Parker as top-ten world-rated heavyweights.

To put this into context, Anthony Joshua didn’t turn pro until a few days before his 24th birthday. Deontay Wilder was about the same age as AJ when he made his pro debut. And let’s not forget that both of these men lost several times in the unpaid ranks.

So I feel it’s perfectly normal for most fighters to suffer defeats early in their careers, due to a combination of youth and inexperience.

Hughie Fury is still improving and has only just turned 26 years of age.

It’s clear that now he’s in his mid-twenties, he is gaining his man-strength, and also seems far more relaxed about dealing with adversity. He also appears to be much bigger physically today in comparison to the same version of the man that entered the ring against Alexander Povetkin, Kubrat Pulev and Joseph Parker.

For sure, Hughie Fury doesn’t currently look like a world-beater, and he might never become one, but you have to give the man some credit, because he’s already achieved far more than any of his fellow heavyweight prospects.

[Jeff_lacy_ko]

Fury isnt a prospect. He fought for a damn world title 3 years ago

[Enlightened-One]

Fury isnt a prospect. He fought for a damn world title 3 years ago

Hughie Fury only just turned 26 years of age a couple of months ago. Instead of competing as an amateur (since his experience in the unpaid ranks is extremely limited), he's learned his trade competing as a pro.

So he's still a prospect in my mind, because he is really young and is clearly improving.

[Jeff_lacy_ko]

Ok
Id say fringe contender but if you want him to be a prospect in your world you do you

[Enlightened-One]

Hughie Fury only just turned 26 years of age a couple of months ago. Instead of competing as an amateur (since his experience in the unpaid ranks is extremely limited), he's learned his trade competing as a pro.

So he's still a prospect in my mind, because he is really young, his career trajectory is on the ascendancy and is clearly improving.

[joe strong]

Here's a list of today’s most popular heavyweight prospects (listed in descending age order):

• Evgenyi Romanov
• Joe Joyce
• Magomedrasul Medzhidov
• Arslanbek Makhmudov
• Ivan Dychko
• Alen Babic
• Tony Yoka
• Filip Hrgović
• Frank Sanchez
• Agit Kabayel
• Efe Ajagba
• Bakhodir Jalolov
• Hughie Fury
• Vladyslav Sirenko
• Daniel Dubois
• Jared Anderson

The only fighter from the above list whose most recent victory came against an opponent that was superior than Mariusz Wach, was Joe Joyce’s stoppage of Daniel Dubois.

For instance, Tony Yoka went the distance with Christian Hammer during his most recent outing, but the man he beat had previously suffered a sixth-round stoppage loss to Mariusz Wach.

The only fighters younger than Hughie Fury from the above list is Jared Anderson, Daniel Dubois and Vladyslav Sirenko.

Excluding Agit Kabayel, all of these guys made their professional debuts around the same time or after Hughie Fury’s highly-contested failed WBO world heavyweight title challenge.

Hughie Fury has competed in 28 fights, more than any of the fighters listed above. And excluding Agit Kabayel, the rest of them have only competed in 16 contests or less.

When Hughie Fury was only 24 years of age, he’d already challenged for the WBO world heavyweight title and engaged in highly competitive bouts against the likes of Alexander Povetkin, Kubrat Pulev and Joseph Parker (two world champions and one two-time title challenger).

And as recently as last weekend, ESPN and The RING still considered Povetkin, Pulev and Parker as top-ten world-rated heavyweights.

To put this into context, Anthony Joshua didn’t turn pro until a few days before his 24th birthday. Deontay Wilder was about the same age as AJ when he made his pro debut. And let’s not forget that both of these men lost several times in the unpaid ranks.

So I feel it’s perfectly normal for most fighters to suffer defeats early in their careers, due to a combination of youth and inexperience.

Hughie Fury is still improving and has only just turned 26 years of age.

It’s clear that now he’s in his mid-twenties, he is gaining his man-strength, and also seems far more relaxed about dealing with adversity. He also appears to be much bigger physically today in comparison to the same version of the man that entered the ring against Alexander Povetkin, Kubrat Pulev and Joseph Parker.

For sure, Hughie Fury doesn’t currently look like a world-beater, and he might never become one, but you have to give the man some credit, because he’s already achieved far more than any of his fellow heavyweight prospects.

When Hughie first came on the scene Peter Fury said right from the get go they will get him in there with durable trialhorses & journeymen. He said that they were not afraid to lose their "0" early in his career. He always said Hughie losing a tough fight early would teach him more than steamrolling overmatched opposition. He has a lot of experience for a 26 year old HW.

[joe strong]

Here's a list of today’s most popular heavyweight prospects (listed in descending age order):

• Evgenyi Romanov
• Joe Joyce
• Magomedrasul Medzhidov
• Arslanbek Makhmudov
• Ivan Dychko
• Alen Babic
• Tony Yoka
• Filip Hrgović
• Frank Sanchez
• Agit Kabayel
• Efe Ajagba
• Bakhodir Jalolov
• Hughie Fury
• Vladyslav Sirenko
• Daniel Dubois
• Jared Anderson

The only fighter from the above list whose most recent victory came against an opponent that was superior than Mariusz Wach, was Joe Joyce’s stoppage of Daniel Dubois.

For instance, Tony Yoka went the distance with Christian Hammer during his most recent outing, but the man he beat had previously suffered a sixth-round stoppage loss to Mariusz Wach.

The only fighters younger than Hughie Fury from the above list is Jared Anderson, Daniel Dubois and Vladyslav Sirenko.

Excluding Agit Kabayel, all of these guys made their professional debuts around the same time or after Hughie Fury’s highly-contested failed WBO world heavyweight title challenge.

Hughie Fury has competed in 28 fights, more than any of the fighters listed above. And excluding Agit Kabayel, the rest of them have only competed in 16 contests or less.

When Hughie Fury was only 24 years of age, he’d already challenged for the WBO world heavyweight title and engaged in highly competitive bouts against the likes of Alexander Povetkin, Kubrat Pulev and Joseph Parker (two world champions and one two-time title challenger).

And as recently as last weekend, ESPN and The RING still considered Povetkin, Pulev and Parker as top-ten world-rated heavyweights.

To put this into context, Anthony Joshua didn’t turn pro until a few days before his 24th birthday. Deontay Wilder was about the same age as AJ when he made his pro debut. And let’s not forget that both of these men lost several times in the unpaid ranks.

So I feel it’s perfectly normal for most fighters to suffer defeats early in their careers, due to a combination of youth and inexperience.

Hughie Fury is still improving and has only just turned 26 years of age.

It’s clear that now he’s in his mid-twenties, he is gaining his man-strength, and also seems far more relaxed about dealing with adversity. He also appears to be much bigger physically today in comparison to the same version of the man that entered the ring against Alexander Povetkin, Kubrat Pulev and Joseph Parker.

For sure, Hughie Fury doesn’t currently look like a world-beater, and he might never become one, but you have to give the man some credit, because he’s already achieved far more than any of his fellow heavyweight prospects.

Petr Milas is another to watch. He beat Pianeta & is one of the few to stop Kevin Johnson. I look forward to his fight with Yoka. That Babic guy keeps calling out Hrgovic. He should try calling out Milas who is also a Croatian. That is 3 HW prospects from Croatia. Since when has Croatia been a HW hotbed? LOL!

[Enlightened-One]

Petr Milas is another to watch. He beat Pianeta & is one of the few to stop Kevin Johnson. I look forward to his fight with Yoka. That Babic guy keeps calling out Hrgovic. He should try calling out Milas who is also a Croatian. That is 3 HW prospects from Croatia. Since when has Croatia been a HW hotbed? LOL!

Didn’t Babic stop Milas in the amateurs six years ago?

Anyway, I'm not really sure what to think about Petar Milas, because by my own admission, I've seen very little of him.

For sure, he's athletic, tall, young and superficially-speaking, he looks very skilled.

However, he's spent the majority of his career campaigning at cruiserweight, and the vast majority of his opponents at that weight hadn't even won a single contest. That's nine opponents with 29 losses - six of them without a win.

And he's only competed in six heavyweight bouts, against opponents that pretty much lose to everyone (at the time of those contests, those guys had failed to win 58 fights and most of them were flabby, short middle-aged men).

Even though Milas is only 25 years of age, barring Fury, he made his pro debut two or three years earlier than every single one of the heavyweight prospects mentioned in my list, but he hasn't fought for 14 months. So his career is progressing at an agonisingly slow pace.

To be perfectly honest with you, Peter Milas' resume currently reads as if he's another Arnold Gjergjaj, Francesco Pianeta or a Mark De Mori type of fighter.

The sort of journeyman that will be cherry-picked to face either a big-name comebacking heavyweight needing a safe, easy victory or a novice rising-star seeking a highlight-reel KO, against an opponent with little talent, but possessing a superficially-impressive record.

[joe strong]

Petr Milas is another to watch. He beat Pianeta & is one of the few to stop Kevin Johnson. I look forward to his fight with Yoka. That Babic guy keeps calling out Hrgovic. He should try calling out Milas who is also a Croatian. That is 3 HW prospects from Croatia. Since when has Croatia been a HW hotbed? LOL!

Didn’t Babic stop Milas in the amateurs six years ago?

Anyway, I'm not really sure what to think about Petar Milas, because by my own admission, I've seen very little of him.

For sure, he's athletic, tall, young and superficially-speaking, he looks very skilled.

However, he's spent the majority of his career campaigning at cruiserweight, and the vast majority of his opponents at that weight hadn't even won a single contest. That's nine opponents with 29 losses - six of them without a win.

And he's only competed in six heavyweight bouts, against opponents that pretty much lose to everyone (at the time of those contests, those guys had failed to win 58 fights and most of them were flabby, short middle-aged men).

Even though Milas is only 25 years of age, barring Fury, he made his pro debut two or three years earlier than every single one of the heavyweight prospects mentioned in my list, but he hasn't fought for 14 months. So his career is progressing at an agonisingly slow pace.

To be perfectly honest with you, Peter Milas' resume currently reads as if he's another Arnold Gjergjaj, Francesco Pianeta or a Mark De Mori type of fighter.

The sort of journeyman that will be cherry-picked to face either a big-name comebacking heavyweight needing a safe, easy victory or a novice rising-star seeking a highlight-reel KO, against an opponent with little talent, but possessing a superficially-impressive record.

I have watched him a few times. I watched both his fights with Pianeta & Kevin Johnson. He looked pretty good against both. I'm not saying he is a world beater but back to back wins over Kingpin & Pianeta are not a bad way to start your move in the HW division. After 3 fights in 2018 he had 2 in 2019 against Muller & Bakhtov. A step back because Bakhtov had seen better days & Muller is a blown up CW who has been in the ring with a few solid fighters like Usyk & Mchunu but was out of his element at HW. The Babic loss was actually his only amateur fight & I don't pay much attention to amateur boxing. It was disappointing to see his level of competition in 2019 after a good 2018. He won't fight in 2020 so it was a little surprising to see him get in with Yoka after a year off. Yoka beat Duhaupas & Hammer which are 2 good names on the resume even though both are about C+ level. I didn't know he fought Babic in the amateurs until I looked but I would still like to see it in the pro ranks. I think Yoka will beat Milas but it is a goodlooking prospect matchup which we need more of. Prospects fighting each other to see who goes to the front of the class.

[margaret thatcher]

he panicked with the cuts vs kassi and pulev, the biggest props i give him here are that he handled it well this time

Knew you would come on board the hughie train

not on the train yet, he still needs to show vs a dangerous opponent that he wont shell up and resort to air jabbing and being overly negative offensively...which he has done every time vs the top 10 opponents he's faced, showing no improvement at that level

he did certainly deal with the cut better though, in fact he fought better once cut. perhaps having been cut a few times now he's simply gotten used to it