No I said con-verted. I have to admit I started out thinking that Saul Alvarez was overhyped and overprotected. He was made to look foolish by the moneyman and I still think Canelo v Golovkin 1 was a robbery. The rematch was much closer but I still had GGG a clear winner.
I've slowly warmed to him over the period since but watching his masterclass dismantling the very capable and way bigger Callum Smith has won me over. I could never understand how a man who (in my eyes) couldn't get an unassisted win over Golovkin, could be in the conversation for best p4p, but I'm now ready to believe he's definitely in contention at the very least.
Before the first bell it looked like man against boy. It still looked like that after the last bell, only the roles had been reversed. How TF do you stand right in front of a decent world champion who has power and all the physical advantages yet not get hit. You have to be a master of defence and to be a master of defence while you are walking him down demonstrates phenomenal ability. Canelo I salute you sir.
candyslim wrote: ↑20 Dec 2020, 08:53
No I said con-verted. I have to admit I started out thinking that Saul Alvarez was overhyped and overprotected. He was made to look foolish by the moneyman and I still think Canelo v Golovkin 1 was a robbery. The rematch was much closer but I still had GGG a clear winner.
I've slowly warmed to him over the period since but watching his masterclass dismantling the very capable and way bigger Callum Smith has won me over. I could never understand how a man who (in my eyes) couldn't get an unassisted win over Golovkin, could be in the conversation for best p4p, but I'm now ready to believe he's definitely in contention at the very least.
Before the first bell it looked like man against boy. It still looked like that after the last bell, only the roles had been reversed. How TF do you stand right in front of a decent world champion who has power and all the physical advantages yet not get hit. You have to be a master of defence and to be a master of defence while you are walking him down demonstrates phenomenal ability. Canelo I salute you sir.
candyslim wrote: ↑20 Dec 2020, 08:53
No I said con-verted. I have to admit I started out thinking that Saul Alvarez was overhyped and overprotected. He was made to look foolish by the moneyman and I still think Canelo v Golovkin 1 was a robbery. The rematch was much closer but I still had GGG a clear winner.
I've slowly warmed to him over the period since but watching his masterclass dismantling the very capable and way bigger Callum Smith has won me over. I could never understand how a man who (in my eyes) couldn't get an unassisted win over Golovkin, could be in the conversation for best p4p, but I'm now ready to believe he's definitely in contention at the very least.
Before the first bell it looked like man against boy. It still looked like that after the last bell, only the roles had been reversed. How TF do you stand right in front of a decent world champion who has power and all the physical advantages yet not get hit. You have to be a master of defence and to be a master of defence while you are walking him down demonstrates phenomenal ability. Canelo I salute you sir.
aicheligad wrote: ↑20 Dec 2020, 09:02
I've always liked Canelo's boxing abilities, I just don't like all the cheating around him. He would be still great without that.
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I think so today, I thought so three years ago.
aicheligad wrote: ↑20 Dec 2020, 09:02
I've always liked Canelo's boxing abilities, I just don't like all the cheating around him. He would be still great without that.
I'm sure that's the reason I'm so late to the party. I took against him because of how Golovkin got stitched up and it blinded me to his talent for longer than it should.
aicheligad wrote: ↑20 Dec 2020, 09:02
I've always liked Canelo's boxing abilities, I just don't like all the cheating around him. He would be still great without that.
I'm sure that's the reason I'm so late to the party. I took against him because of how Golovkin got stitched up and it blinded me to his talent for longer than it should.
If you see things less emotionally you’ll find these revelations more frequent
To be fair I think it was more a case of "How can he be P4P if he cannot get a legitimate win over a fellow elite who is the same natural size?". Not an unreasonable question at the time shirley? Granted I was resentful of the favours he received but I wouldn't call it an emotional response - that makes it seem fanciful and not considered.
Canelo is brilliant in so many other areas of his boxing too. I love watching him train on the bags etc .. he is perfect how he delivers punches. Its easy to assume all top boxers do so the same - but thats far from the case.
I was a bit iffy about him for a while, the fact he claimed Mayweather 'ran away' coupled with he fact he still come out with a SD after hardly landing a glove for twelve rounds left a bad taste in my mouth.
He then dropped a belt to avoid GGG when he looking an absolute beast.
Since then he has help from judges, WBC support during the Mexican beef saga and given a few fighters very little prep time for fights.
But overall, you can't argue with his performances in the ring. Fighting on the front foot against a banger like GGG in the rematch is commendable even if you don't agree with the result.
His upper body movement against Jacobs was masterful.
Also, he has now effectively faced 2 lhws in a row and won convincingly both times.
The man is at the very least p4p top 3 and a reasonable arguement can be made that he is number 1.
Riddick Blowe wrote: ↑20 Dec 2020, 10:36
I despise Canelo but you have to hand it to him as a fighter.
Nothing has really changed after this fight though, Smith has always been somewhat ordinary.
Yeah, performing well against Callum is neither here nor there really, otherwise Ryder would be considered as a P4P fighter too, he definitely deserved the decision imo.
Canelo is no doubt up there in P4P rankings, even though I’m 100% sure he’s juiced up to the gills.
Canelo’s run around 168 is what will solidify him as a great fighter in the hearts of the fans. He will consistently be taking on bigger fighters and tough opponents who are ripe for the taking. I’m not sure GGG wants that smoke he saw last night.
candyslim wrote: ↑20 Dec 2020, 08:53
No I said con-verted. I have to admit I started out thinking that Saul Alvarez was overhyped and overprotected. He was made to look foolish by the moneyman and I still think Canelo v Golovkin 1 was a robbery. The rematch was much closer but I still had GGG a clear winner.
I've slowly warmed to him over the period since but watching his masterclass dismantling the very capable and way bigger Callum Smith has won me over. I could never understand how a man who (in my eyes) couldn't get an unassisted win over Golovkin, could be in the conversation for best p4p, but I'm now ready to believe he's definitely in contention at the very least.
Before the first bell it looked like man against boy. It still looked like that after the last bell, only the roles had been reversed. How TF do you stand right in front of a decent world champion who has power and all the physical advantages yet not get hit. You have to be a master of defence and to be a master of defence while you are walking him down demonstrates phenomenal ability. Canelo I salute you sir.
I'm not a particularly a fan of his personally and I definitely don't like the treatment he gets, but how can you not be in awe of him when he's in the ring? No one beats him at 168 I don't believe. His only test right now would come at 175. Bivol or Beterbiev. Particularly Beterbiev. I think that would be an absolute war, but one we're not destined to see for another year or 3.
Canelo is a great fighter, no question about that. Canelo usually gets the judges to lean in his favor, that has been proven too. He has improved a lot since the Floyd fight, and one thing he has learned is the importance of style type match ups that suit him. If matched up right he can and will beat much bigger guys.
