Gennady Golovkin vs. Jaime Munguia - TBA

[Onetimeonly]

..before I start thinking of bashing GGG for his NEXT possible opponent, let's be clear that his FIRST choice is to rematch Canelo..isn't Canelo the one who's been trying to avoid GGG at all costs at least for the time being? isn't it also clear that the Mexican superstar has been delaying this fight for obvious reasons?

Whom else is he gonna fight on dazn?

[Enlightened-One]

..before I start thinking of bashing GGG for his NEXT possible opponent, let's be clear that his FIRST choice is to rematch Canelo..isn't Canelo the one who's been trying to avoid GGG at all costs at least for the time being? isn't it also clear that the Mexican superstar has been delaying this fight for obvious reasons?

There are certain things that Canelo deserves to be criticised about, but to allege that the Mexican is “avoiding facing GGG at all cost”, even though he’s recently faced Golovkin twice and has also expressed a compelling desire to share the ring with the likes of Sergey Kovalev or Callum Smith in his very next outing instead, is a very silly thing to say.

And let’s not forget that Team GGG refused to consider facing Danny Jacobs again even though the outcome of their fight was moderately controversial, whilst Canelo agreed to engage in an immediate rematch against Golovkin, is something that many Gennadiy die-hard fans prefer to forget about.

I’m sorry, but the fact remains is that GGG Promotions hasn’t submitted an offer for a third fight between Golovkin and Canelo to GBP. It quite simply didn’t happen! Canelo hasn't received an offer to reject. He has nothing to actually "duck" or "avoid at all cost".

Also, let’s not forget that the Canelo-GGG rematch achieved 1.1m PPV buys on HBO, which was 16% less than their first bout. These guys were never going to face each other again for a third time so soon, due to a combination of viewer fatigue and consumer demand having already been mostly satisfied due to two back-to-back bouts.

I actually feel that DAZN, GBP & GGG Promotions wants the third bout of the Canelo-Golovkin trilogy to happen, but they’re allowing the demand for this super-fight to marinate.

What I do find interesting though, is that Canelo fights Danny Jacobs around the same time GGG engages in a mismatch against Steve Rolls.

And now Canelo has expressed a strong desire to face Callum Smith or Sergey Kovalev next, GGG’s name is being linked to Jaime Munguia.

And yet the only person being criticised is the Mexican!

[Ruthless-RKO]

Also, let’s not forget that the Canelo-GGG rematch achieved 1.1m PPV buys on HBO, which was 16% less than their first bout. These guys were never going to face each other again for a third time so soon, due to a combination of viewer fatigue and consumer demand having already been mostly satisfied due to two back-to-back bouts.

It did less buys yes. But generated more revenue due to the rise of cost of the PPV. Had it been the original cost, it probably would have done 1.3 again.

2nd fight made them more money despite the lower PPV buys. Let’s focus on revenue rather than buys.

May-Mac didn’t sell out the T-Mobile, yet generated the highest gate there due to the costs of the seats.

[Enlightened-One]

It did less buys yes. But generated more revenue due to the rise of cost of the PPV. Had it been the original cost, it probably would have done 1.3 again.

2nd fight made them more money despite the lower PPV buys. Let’s focus on revenue rather than buys.

May-Mac didn’t sell out the T-Mobile, yet generated the highest gate there due to the costs of the seats.

The actual revenue figures were never disclosed by GBP or HBO (only the buy-rate was).

Also, the rematch was far less controversial than their first bout, which inevitably means that an immediate third bout would have attracted fewer figures.

Heck, even people from this forum wanted both guys to take a break from each other.

And I can quote many posts from this forum and the media saying the same thing.

[caldo2025]

Canelo is fighting Munguia, NOT GGG. Nice breaking news idiot.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Canelo is fighting Munguia, NOT GGG. Nice breaking news idiot.

That’s only just been said.. and nothing has even been confirmed. Fûckin idiot.

This news came first.

[Enlightened-One]

Canelo is fighting Munguia, NOT GGG.

Well that’s another blatant mismatch! What the hell are DAZN thinking?

If this is true, then why would GBP tease fight fans by suggesting that Canelo could face Smith or Kovalev next, but then deliver an appalling opponent such as Munguia?

All they’re going to cause is disappointment and leave themselves open to receiving criticism.

If Canelo faces Munguia, then who will likely become GGG’s opponent? They’d really be scraping the barrel if he’s matched against someone worse than Jaime.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Well that’s another blatant mismatch! What the hell are DAZN thinking?

If this is true, then why would GBP tease fight fans by suggesting that Canelo could face Smith or Kovalev next, but then deliver an appalling opponent such as Munguia?

All they’re going to cause is disappointment and leave themselves open to receiving criticism.

If Canelo faces Munguia, then who will likely become GGG’s opponent? They’d really be scraping the barrel if he’s matched against someone worse than Jaime.

Caldo's got it wrong. It's not a definite fight. It's an option, which is still crap, but an offer was made. Looks like Team Canelo are keeping an open mind with their options.

TBH, I thought they would save this for a few years where Munguia is more matured and experienced. Would be a huge fight for Mexico. But i'm thinking DAZN may want to do it before Munguia loses his '0'.

[Enlightened-One]

TBH, I thought they would save this for a few years where Munguia is more matured and experienced. Would be a huge fight for Mexico. But i'm thinking DAZN may want to do it before Munguia loses his '0'.

From a commercial perspective, a bout between two Mexican world champions staged during one of Mexico’s public holidays, makes perfect sense.

However, I don’t see any sporting reasons to justify this potential bout. I hope that GBP are simply negotiating terms with Jaime Munguia, for him to become Canelo’s stand-by opponent for his September 14th bout, in case someone like Callum Smith or Sergey Kovalev are forced to withdraw at late notice.

Wishful thinking, eh?

[dickbelden]

sounds like CANELO vs MUNGUIA--- 2 boxrec champs in a great fight--- a mexican war.---and mayb BOO BOO vs GGG---another very interesting bout.

[caldo2025]

That’s only just been said.. and nothing has even been confirmed. Fûckin idiot.

This news came first.

Let’s bet then dipshiit.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Let’s bet then dipshiit.

What yu supposed to bet on exactly?

[Lackeos]

Munguia's defense is horrible. He is tailor-made to get broken by Golovkin. Munguia would match-up better against the boxer Alvarez, since his size could help give him some hope of outlanding Alvarez, and Alvarez has less offense with which to overwhelm Munguia's poor defense.

Although Munguia is at the top of his division, according to boxrec, he is 22 and I think he could use a little more time before he shares the ring with a top 5 p4p fighter. Especially in his case, because his skills are amateurish.

Btw, lol @ these rumors. We've heard that Alvarez is going to surrender his belts and move-up before his next fight. We've heard Alvarez is going to keep his belts and fight Munguia. We've heard Golovkin is going to fight Munguia. Some of these claims are necessarily going to prove to be false.

[caldo2025]

What yu supposed to bet on exactly?

I don’t know. That’s my usual reply to people when they call me names and it usually works.

[caldo2025]

From a commercial perspective, a bout between two Mexican world champions staged during one of Mexico’s public holidays, makes perfect sense.

However, I don’t see any sporting reasons to justify this potential bout. I hope that GBP are simply negotiating terms with Jaime Munguia, for him to become Canelo’s stand-by opponent for his September 14th bout, in case someone like Callum Smith or Sergey Kovalev are forced to withdraw at late notice.

Wishful thinking, eh?

Wouldn’t you say that this kid Munguia is the next best beloved boxer in Mexico? That’s why they are going to make this fight. That, and the fact that Munguia is a glorified punching bag. Canelo is going to absolutely ruin this kid and take his soul and the remaining Mexican fans bandwagonning this kid.

Munguia is going nowhere. He will never be a superstar because he just doesn’t have the head for defense that is required to be a star. He will be in some wars that will make some people enjoy but he’s already taken a careers worth of beatings and he’s not even made a huge step up in quality competition yet. Golden Boy is cashing in his chips on Munguia because he can’t mold him into what was ever intended for him. That’s all that this is. Plus give the kid one good payday and hopefully that will pay for his medical bills and leave enough for him to buy a cool car and some nice clothes.

[gilgamesh]

Munguia huh? Well at least it's not as much of a joke now as the first time his name was floated as a potential big name opponent.

[Ruthless-RKO]

GBP Prez: Munguia Deserves Shot At Golovkin, Has Cinco de Mayo Weekend Written All Over It

Gennadiy Golovkin doesn’t need to look very far in search of his next willing challenger.

Former junior middleweight titlist Jaime Munguia has seen his name floated as a person of interest to next take on the two-time middleweight titleholder. That fight very much remains in play after Golovkin had his way with miserably overmatched mandatory challenger Kamil Szeremeta, scoring four knockdowns en route to a 7th round stoppage win Friday evening at Seminole Hard Rock Hotel & Casino in Hollywood, Florida.

As previously reported by BS.com senior writer Keith Idec, a bout between Golovkin and Munguia is one of several being considered by DAZN for the first half of its 2021 schedule. Both boxers are currently exclusive to the sports streaming service—Golovkin (41-1-1, 36 KOs) through his own deal, and Munguia via ties to Golden Boy Promotions—and with at least one side very interested in making the fight happen.

“Jaime Munguia definitely deserves a shot at Triple G’s middleweight title,” Eric Gomez, president of Golden Boy Promotions told BS.com shortly after Golovkin’s latest win. “It’s the most intriguing fight that can be made in the division, pitting Mexico’s biggest rising star against the most dominant 160-pound champion of the past decade.”

Tijuana’s Munguia (36-0, 29 KOs) once pursued a fight with Golovkin who was an unbeaten and unified middleweight titlist at the time he was in need of an opponent for a May 2018 date. The vacancy came about after Saul ‘Canelo’ Alvarez tested positive for Clenbuterol, which in turn prompted a six-month suspension to ruin plans for a rematch with Golovkin to have taken place eight months after their controversial September 2017 draw.

A fight between Golovkin and a then-rising 154-pound contender in Munguia was rejected by the Nevada State Athletic Commission, killing any hope of salvaging the Cinco de Mayo date. Golovkin instead took his act to Southern California, where he wiped out Vanes Martirosyan inside of two rounds for his final successful title defense. Four months later came his 12-round loss to Alvarez to end a middleweight reign which dated back to his first interim title win in 2010.

One week later, Munguia slaughtered Sadam Ali inside of four rounds to emphatically claim a 154-pound title, which he successfully defended five times. His reign came to a close late in 2019, vacating his belt in pursuit of a middleweight campaign. Munguia has picked up two knockout wins at 160, stopping Gary ‘Spike’ O’Sullivan inside of 11 rounds this past January in San Antonio and then forcing Tureano Johnson into submission due to a grotesque quote after six rounds this past October in Indio, California.

After the fight, Munguia offered an expressed interest in next challenging for a middleweight title. Golovkin regained a title with a hard-fought 12-round win over Sergiy Derevyanchenko last October, returning to the ring for the first time since then with Friday’s lopsided win over Szeremeta which did nothing to satisfy home viewers.

While some hold out hope for a third fight with Alvarez—who is now campaigning at super middleweight, where he challenges England’s Callum Smith (27-0, 19KOs) for a major title this Saturday in San Antonio—many others in the industry have grown exhausted in the drama that has come with such an attempt. Alvarez is keen on unifying the super middleweight division—where he physically appears to be at his best weight—while Golovkin has never fought outside of the 160-pound division save for a tune-up knockout win over outgunned Steve Rolls last June.

Absent a unification bout with the likes of Jermall Charlo, Demetrius Andrade or secondary titlist Ryota Murata, a fight with Munguia is certainly appealing from a competitive and notoriety standpoint. It would also pair nicely with the strong schedule already being offered by Golden Boy Promotions to start the new year.

“This fight has Cinco de Mayo Weekend written all over it,” insists Gomez. “And if made, it would be the cherry on top of a huge list of international-level cards planned for the first half of 2021, which already includes the Alvarado brothers (Felix, 108-pound titlist, and 130-pound titlist Rene), Bektemir Melikuziev, (130-pound titlist) Joseph Diaz Jr. and (154-pound titlist) Patrick Teixeira.”

[Thomastearns]

“This fight has Cinco de Mayo Weekend written all over it,”


Way to go, GGG! Grab that date before Clenelo gets ideas.

This is how first Mayweather and now Alvarez
are doing it.

Now you just need to cement your A side status, loaded with as many advantages as you possibly can. Legal ones preferably, but don't let that limit you.

That's how you do it!

[margaret thatcher]

make it happen, bombs away fight

[jas80s]

From what I've seen this could be ugly for Munguia. If he somehow were to be competitive in the fight, this could be a FOTY type fight, however.

[margaret thatcher]

munguia is a gifted ffighter offensively and ggg gets hit, as does mung of course, this couldnt be anything but a fun arse fight

[DrDuke]

From what they've shown up to the date, Mung is just a big and strong type of a fighter, while GGG is an elite level boxer with world class chin and power. GGG's defence is questionable, but Mung's one is even more. If they fight next, I'd pick Golovkin to batter Mung. Although it's a much better matchup than the regular ones for these two blokes. I'd rather see GGG-Charlo, but if not it, then GGG-Mung sounds fine.

[Enlightened-One]

Jaime Munguia is, at best, a fringe top-ten middleweight that’s only had a couple of bouts at 160lbs.

So if GGG faces Munguia next, rather than any of the top-five guys, then he’s either ducking his big-name rivals, due to a perceived fear that defeat would scupper his chances of receiving another Canelo mega payday, or Gennadiy has accepted the fact he’s on the cusp of turning forty years of age and is no longer the elite-level boogeyman he once was.

Personally-speaking, I’d like GGG to agree to face Sergiy Derevyanchenko again, because in my mind he lost that fight. And he needs to prove it was simply a one-off, a case of him suffering from a rare “bad day at the office.”

And GGG can’t continue criticising Canelo if he himself isn’t brave enough to give Derevyanchenko the rematch.

My words might sound harsh, but it’s just that I dislike hypocrisy or those that choose to apply double-standards, whereby despised fighters are held accountable to higher standards than so-called noble “heroic” fan favourites.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Jaime Munguia is, at best, a fringe top-ten middleweight that’s only had a couple of bouts at 160lbs.

So if GGG faces Munguia next, rather than any of the top-five guys, then he’s either ducking his big-name rivals, due to a perceived fear that defeat would scupper his chances of receiving another Canelo mega payday, or Gennadiy has accepted the fact he’s on the cusp of turning forty years of age and is no longer the elite-level boogeyman he once was.

Personally-speaking, I’d like GGG to agree to face Sergiy Derevyanchenko again, because in my mind he lost that fight. And he needs to prove it was simply a one-off, a case of him suffering from a rare “bad day at the office.”

And GGG can’t continue criticising Canelo if he himself isn’t brave enough to give Derevyanchenko the rematch.

My words might sound harsh, but it’s just that I dislike hypocrisy or those that choose to apply double-standards, whereby despised fighters are held accountable to higher standards than so-called noble “heroic” fan favourites.

But you make excuse for Canelo fighting Yildirim?

[Enlightened-One]

Jaime Munguia is, at best, a fringe top-ten middleweight that’s only had a couple of bouts at 160lbs.

So if GGG faces Munguia next, rather than any of the top-five guys, then he’s either ducking his big-name rivals, due to a perceived fear that defeat would scupper his chances of receiving another Canelo mega payday, or Gennadiy has accepted the fact he’s on the cusp of turning forty years of age and is no longer the elite-level boogeyman he once was.

Personally-speaking, I’d like GGG to agree to face Sergiy Derevyanchenko again, because in my mind he lost that fight. And he needs to prove it was simply a one-off, a case of him suffering from a rare “bad day at the office.”

And GGG can’t continue criticising Canelo if he himself isn’t brave enough to give Derevyanchenko the rematch.

My words might sound harsh, but it’s just that I dislike hypocrisy or those that choose to apply double-standards, whereby despised fighters are held accountable to higher standards than so-called noble “heroic” fan favourites.

But you make excuse for Canelo fighting Yildirim?

I haven’t made an excuse for Yildrim.

Someone else might have, but I haven’t.

Quote my words which imply I have and I’ll clarify my thoughts accordingly.

I actually said that Canelo was bigger than the titles, so his freedom of choice shouldn’t be hindered by the WBC’s demands.