''AJ can't box, he couldn't even outbox Joseph Parker''

[Tevfik1907]

Gypsy King said;



I needed to refresh my memory about AJ vs. Parker fight, and I watched it again, I scored it like 115-113, or 115-114 for the favor of AJ (could be even a draw, since it was a championship unification fight between two champions, Parker wasn't a contender) because I think Parker wobbled AJ several times, never close to score a knockdown but despite Parker fighting outside of AJ's long jab and despite AJ having a big height and reach advantage against Parker, AJ still couldn't walk through Parker's jab (which in my opinion shows that AJ's chin isn't really reliable), couldn't disrespect Parker's power, and Parker outboxed AJ from time to time especially in the earlier rounds, AJ missed a lot shots while trying to hit Parker, defensively, Parker gets advantage in scoring.

While ring control was kind of debatable, while Parker was the better boxer, AJ was always keeping up with Parker due to being slightly faster than Parker and he was using his size and height, reach advantage very wisely and he was smart. He always pushed Parker, but he was always careful and always respected Parker's power, couldn't just walk through him.

I think AJ's strong jabs, a couple big right hands and left hooks, as Gypsy King said, was the only thing he had against Parker, and he slightly won the fight, (could be a draw too imo) against Parker.

But if we return to the main event, Gypsy King is really a far better version of Joseph Parker, he is faster and more skilled, he showed better striking power against Wilder, he won't have problem with AJ's height and reach advantage. I think AJ will only have power advantage, not even speed, so is this really enough for AJ to win against Tyson Fury? I doubt, but I think it will be the same with Wilder 3 fight, AJ will always have the puncher's chance so he can pull out a win although the favorite will be Tyson Fury.

[Stanny Onis]

Parker fight was one of AJs worst performances. He fought with the wrong tactics

Parker is just the HW version of Danny Garcia, ie Solid chin but very average skills/ability. Tyson Fury would make him look stupid and beat him with ease.

[Enlightened-One]

AJ can box. He can probably outbox most world-rated heavyweights not named Fury or Usyk.

I actually think Andy Ruiz Jr. might be more skilful than AJ, but his lack of discipline has resulted in him being so incredibly obese that he lacks the athleticism to execute the skills he's acquired often enough throughout bouts.

[DrDuke]

What is for sure, Joshua can't box like Fury and The Gypsy King gotta stop AJ.

[candyslim]

I don't think that's for sure. This is as near to a 50/50 fight as it's possible to imagine. I hope AJ wins though. You can say it's a carefully cultivated image, and that AJ has been trained to say all the right things, but I see a man who has taken on everyone of the top fighters who have been willing to face him, and that reinforces my belief that he is the kind of person he appears to be, namely a man who believes in action not words, a man who believes that everyone is deserving of respect (until they demonstrate that they are not) a man who believes he has what it takes to be the best of his generation.

Fury is a formidable heavyweight to be sure, but he talks sh1t constantly and contradicts himself on a regular basis. He alleges AJ ducked Wilder when he knows this to be a lie. He says it was very easy to make the fight with Wilder because they both wanted the fight. He's not wrong but he neglects to mention that Hearn offered huge money to both Wilder and Fury but they preferred to fight each other for way less money. Why? Because Fury knew he had the beating of Wilder and could demand parity in the unification with Joshua. He also knew and accused Wilder to his face on worldwide TV, that the only reason he got the Wilder fight (1st fight) is that after battling back from addiction, depression, massive weight gain and loss, a three and a half year lay-off, that Team Wilder saw him as easy pickings and a big name addition to Deontay's win column.

I was furious with Tyson when the fight was announced because while I believed a peak Fury would beat the brakes off Deontay, I felt he was nowhere near ready and would be little more than a lamb to slaughter. What I failed to recognize was that if Fury had waited until he was demonstrably back to 100% or somewhere close to it, then he would not have been granted the opportunity. There is much to admire about Tyson Fury but he's a slippery bugger and you can never take it that he believes what he says.

[adislav123]

you take him way too seriously. he's the best heavy out there and just havin' fun.

[candyslim]

you take him way too seriously. he's the best heavy out there and just havin' fun.

That's just the point: I don't take him seriously.

Except when he's in the ring of course. Then you'd need to be a fool not to take him seriously.

[gilgamesh]

I thought he outboxed Parker. Granted it was close, and he had his share of struggles, but he won the fight.

[Paci]

Hope that make this fight happens instead of the one with Wilder(who is having a breakdown or something, he will get back on his horse in 2501 or something, fingers crossed).

AJ is gonna start asking for a rematch a month before the bell. Cause, a can't turn down a huge paycheck against Fury.

[gilgamesh]

Hope that make this fight happens instead of the one with Wilder(who is having a breakdown or something, he will get back on his horse in 2501 or something, fingers crossed).

AJ is gonna start asking for a rematch a month before the bell. Cause, a can't turn down a huge paycheck against Fury.

I don't think anybody would be too bothered with a rematch clause being in the contract there. It's the biggest possible Heavyweight fight so they might as well do it twice. If it's even reasonably competitive you could sell it twice.

If it's a complete blowout for one guy it might be kinda hard to sell a rematch, but we'll see.

[candyslim]

I thought he outboxed Parker. Granted it was close, and he had his share of struggles, but he won the fight.

The referee was keeping them from working inside. Any time they came together this overly fussy official broke it up. I know Joe is not known for infighting but being kept at distance against a rangier opponent who has an excellent jab couldn't have done him any favours. I thought it was one of AJ's less convincing performances.

[Oiky]

Joshua can box

A bit. He's not a natural boxer, he won't be able to do anything with Tyson fury though. Sometimes he gets his tactics all wrong too

[Controversial]

Fury has natural ability, AJ doesn't.

[Counter-puncher]

Parker showed that Joshua can't let his hands go often if he's facing anyone with head movement.

[Jeff_lacy_ko]

Parker wouldnt engage and joshua won most of the fight by coming forward

Awful fight, limited exchanges and only one guy came to win. Odd how anyone thinks that means parker out oxed Joshua

[Thomastearns]

Fury has natural ability, AJ doesn't.

Hardly surprising since he was encouraged to fight as soon as he could stand up.
Ditto BJS and HF etc

On the other hand AJ has power in both hands and no glaring weaknesses.

As long as he doesn't go chasing Fury, he can't lose. AJ is no Otto Wallin.

Just fight like Wlad did and let your hands go a bit more.

[Controversial]

Fury has natural ability, AJ doesn't.

As long as he doesn't go chasing Fury, he can't lose. AJ is no Otto Wallin.

Fury is the type of fighter who rises to the occasion, he needs motivation and has been in a few poor fights against lower tier opposition. When it matters he can turn it on and he will be up for it big time against AJ, I think his movement, awkwardness and unconventional style will give AJ nightmares.

[keirw]

I thought he outboxed Parker. Granted it was close, and he had his share of struggles, but he won the fight.

The referee was keeping them from working inside. Any time they came together this overly fussy official broke it up. I know Joe is not known for infighting but being kept at distance against a rangier opponent who has an excellent jab couldn't have done him any favours. I thought it was one of AJ's less convincing performances.

AJ was just as handicapped by the ref as Parker was, possibly more so, considering he is generally strong on the inside.

The ref was shocking. Parker's team at the time tried moaned about him, but it was their own fault.

They demanded that it not be a British ref, which is fine as most of our refs are sh*t.
But at least British refs tend to allow fighters to work up close.

I remember there being a bit of a head clash early in the fight, I think that made the ref panic a bit and contributed to his piss poor performance.

[gilgamesh]

I thought he outboxed Parker. Granted it was close, and he had his share of struggles, but he won the fight.

The referee was keeping them from working inside. Any time they came together this overly fussy official broke it up. I know Joe is not known for infighting but being kept at distance against a rangier opponent who has an excellent jab couldn't have done him any favours. I thought it was one of AJ's less convincing performances.

I do remember a referee breaking them up one time after Parker had rocked AJ a little, and giving AJ a bit of a break to get himself together. That was some bullsh*t.

[Counter-puncher]

Fury has natural ability, AJ doesn't.

Hardly surprising since he was encouraged to fight as soon as he could stand up.
Ditto BJS and HF etc

On the other hand AJ has power in both hands and no glaring weaknesses.

As long as he doesn't go chasing Fury, he can't lose. AJ is no Otto Wallin.

Just fight like Wlad did and let your hands go a bit more.

If you think Joshua has no glaring weaknesses your bar is set pretty low

[Counter-puncher]

Oh, lol, i didn’t even see the bit that he couldn’t lose as long as he didn’t chase Fury. Lol

[Jeff_lacy_ko]

Here are his weaknesses

Bends at waist and gives up height
Lack of head movement
Stamina issues
Average chin

[Syntax Error]

This comment is a bit disingenuous.

When Joshua fought Parker, he wasn't as seasoned as he is now and was always looking for the knockout, because that's what he was known for having never been the distance, however, since Ruiz II, his boxing skills have improved markedly.

He's no Usyk or Fury, but he can box as he has shown in his last two fights.

[Counter-puncher]

Here are his weaknesses

Bends at waist and gives up height
Lack of head movement
Stamina issues
Average chin

Stiff and unintuitive, clearly affects his stamina and ability to react, he tenses and flinches at feints and is slow to adjust his feet, all of which would be a nightmare against the feint-heavy, fluid Fury,

Joshua has started fighting a bit gunshy since Ruiz 1 IMO

[candyslim]

I thought he outboxed Parker. Granted it was close, and he had his share of struggles, but he won the fight.

The referee was keeping them from working inside. Any time they came together this overly fussy official broke it up. I know Joe is not known for infighting but being kept at distance against a rangier opponent who has an excellent jab couldn't have done him any favours. I thought it was one of AJ's less convincing performances.

AJ was just as handicapped by the ref as Parker was, possibly more so, considering he is generally strong on the inside.

The ref was shocking. Parker's team at the time tried moaned about him, but it was their own fault.

They demanded that it not be a British ref, which is fine as most of our refs are sh*t.
But at least British refs tend to allow fighters to work up close.

I remember there being a bit of a head clash early in the fight, I think that made the ref panic a bit and contributed to his piss poor performance.

I accept that Joshua is naturally the better in-fighter but he seemed to me to be too respectful of Parker and that Joe was the more frustrated by the referee's constant interference. AJ seemed happy to re-set each time and keep Parker at distance where Joe was struggling to overcome his height and reach disadvantage.

I do remember a referee breaking them up one time after Parker had rocked AJ a little, and giving AJ a bit of a break to get himself together. That was some bullsh*t.

I think I'd need to watch it again before I could give an opinion about that, but the thought fills me with as much enthusiasm as the prospect of cleaning out the cats' toilet.