Whyte v Ruiz

[golden_labrador]

I see Ruiz has lost 20lbs since his Joshua horror show, and talk is of a Whyte-Ruiz match-up in 2021. I would love to see Whyte against Ruiz (or Wilder). I see Ruiz winning this (if he keeps the flubber off), seeing as he is probably non-KOable. Whyte has a weak chin when bashed enough.

Anyone see Dillian winning this?

I'm fed up of seeing the top 5 heavyweights fighting bums.

May 2021 be the year they all put up or shut up.

[adislav123]

yeah we all know the weakly chinned whyte...

when hit pinpoint on the spot with a sledgehammer he doesn't see incominghis chin every time goes. what a weakling!

[gilgamesh]

I'd think Whyte can win this, but it should be competitive. I would expect a close decision either way.

[dookus]

I think Ruiz is all wrong for Whyte. If he's in shape.

[adislav123]

ruiz closing in & letting his hands go is all wrong for practically everybody.

fastest hands in the division and a methusalemic beard.

[Jeff_lacy_ko]

Great 50/50 crossroad fight
Would rather see them in with one of the up and comers like joyce, hrgovic, etc but this works

[Onetimeonly]

I'd make whyte a clear favorite, but I doubt fat boy ever has another fight of note.

[Perseus]

I see Ruiz has lost 20lbs since his Joshua horror show, and talk is of a Whyte-Ruiz match-up in 2021. I would love to see Whyte against Ruiz (or Wilder). I see Ruiz winning this (if he keeps the flubber off), seeing as he is probably non-KOable. Whyte has a weak chin when bashed enough.

Anyone see Dillian winning this?

I'm fed up of seeing the top 5 heavyweights fighting bums.

May 2021 be the year they all put up or shut up.

A whole 20 lbs off him?

That means he's still 260+.
Still a slob.

If Whyte avoids a slug fest with Ruiz he can beat him.

[emallini]

Whyte does not have the length or legs to avoid exchanges in this fight, and I think Ruiz would get the better of the inevitable exchanges.

[DrDuke]

A one of the best HW matchups for today. Whyte has more of tools, but Ruiz' handspeed and power will be problematic for Whyte, who just can't avoid being tagged every damn fight.

[keirw]

Whyte has an excellent jab and has plenty of meat on that left hook of his. But Ruiz (if in semi decent shape) is capable of getting inside and throwing those fast combinations of his.

This could be a good fight, but I doubt Ruiz will ever fight again. He hit the jackpot with the two AJ fights.

Let's face it, does anyone see Ruiz dragging himself out of his newly bought mansion at the crack of dawn to hit the gym?

[candyslim]

I'd make whyte a clear favorite, but I doubt fat boy ever has another fight of note.

I think it all depends on how in shape and motivated Ruiz can get himself. I think the best Ruiz beats the best Whyte because he has fast hands and a granite chin. They have similar speed of foot or lack of it and decent skills. Dillian is the bigger puncher but I doubt he knocks out Ruiz, whereas Ruiz may not match Whyte for power but he hits hard and often enough to make a stoppage win a very real possibility.

Their respective performances against Joe Parker suggest all three are on a very similar level, but it could be a case of 'rock paper scissors' and I'd worry for Dillian if a peak Ruiz were to show up.

Like you though I regard this is highly unlikely. If he could rarely generate the required motivation before he made his millions, how is he going to manage it now?

[Jimmy2020]

Ruiz is done. He's rich and that's enough for him.

[DrDuke]

I guess, Ruiz will be back. One day he finds, that there's no more cash for tacos, so he goes back in the ring.

[candyslim]

By then that might be very dangerous to his health.

[Onetimeonly]

I'd make whyte a clear favorite, but I doubt fat boy ever has another fight of note.

I think it all depends on how in shape and motivated Ruiz can get himself. I think the best Ruiz beats the best Whyte because he has fast hands and a granite chin. They have similar speed of foot or lack of it and decent skills. Dillian is the bigger puncher but I doubt he knocks out Ruiz, whereas Ruiz may not match Whyte for power but he hits hard and often enough to make a stoppage win a very real possibility.

Their respective performances against Joe Parker suggest all three are on a very similar level, but it could be a case of 'rock paper scissors' and I'd worry for Dillian if a peak Ruiz were to show up.

Like you though I regard this is highly unlikely. If he could rarely generate the required motivation before he made his millions, how is he going to manage it now?

I've never seen him in shape or motivated.

[H8Usernames]

Seeing this one would be really nice. Not alot of good fights out there that can be made really. This is one of them.

[fanman]

I think ruiz should start back at a lower level before gearing up for a title fight - if he wants to

[Syntax Error]

I remember there was a picture of Ruiz allegedly looking 'trim' during the build-up to the Joshua rematch and yet by fight time, Andy weighed the same as a Brachiosaurus.

Ruiz has all the ability in the world, but he cannot be trusted.

A potential fight with Whyte would be intriguing though.

[candyslim]

I'd make whyte a clear favorite, but I doubt fat boy ever has another fight of note.

I think it all depends on how in shape and motivated Ruiz can get himself. I think the best Ruiz beats the best Whyte because he has fast hands and a granite chin. They have similar speed of foot or lack of it and decent skills. Dillian is the bigger puncher but I doubt he knocks out Ruiz, whereas Ruiz may not match Whyte for power but he hits hard and often enough to make a stoppage win a very real possibility.

Their respective performances against Joe Parker suggest all three are on a very similar level, but it could be a case of 'rock paper scissors' and I'd worry for Dillian if a peak Ruiz were to show up.

Like you though I regard this is highly unlikely. If he could rarely generate the required motivation before he made his millions, how is he going to manage it now?

I've never seen him in shape or motivated.

In shape is a relative term, what constitutes 'in shape' for Andy Ruiz is very different to Fury and different again to Wilder or Joshua. He still looked like a slob when he beat Joshua at the garden but there didn't seem to me to be a lot wrong with ARJ's performance levels and certainly not his motivation that night.

[Onetimeonly]

Too each their own. I thought he came in blubbering to collect a check and after getting dropped his survival instinct kicked in, and it was pretty bad ass, but I didn't see motivation and he definitely wasn't in shape.

[DrDuke]

Too each their own. I thought he came in blubbering to collect a check and after getting dropped his survival instinct kicked in, and it was pretty bad ass, but I didn't see motivation and he definitely wasn't in shape.

He just wasn't able to demonstrate anything in the Joshua fight, until Joshua let him do it. Joshua is simply a better boxer and controlled the fight early on. When Joshua went reckless after scoring a KD, he gave Ruiz a present. And Ruiz appeared to be tougher mentally after being down.

[candyslim]

Ruiz looked like a tub of lard against Parker but took him to a split decision over 12 rounds and probably would have been awarded the decision on neutral territory. I've seen at least as many Adonis type physique boxers demonstrate poor stamina, that shape is also unsuited for boxing. Yeah I know you weren't advocating that, I'm justsaying.

I think we just have to accept Ruiz is an incorrigible fat bloke who can fight.

[Enlightened-One]

Andy Ruiz Jr. will likely face Chris Arreola next.

And I have a sneaking suspicion that Dillian Whyte will face Luis Ortiz during February/March, followed by the Alexander Povetkin rematch.

So I seriously doubt we'll see a bout between Whyte and Ruiz Jr. anytime soon.

In terms of my opinion of the outcome of a potential Whyte-Ruiz Jr. bout, I lack confidence in my own prediction, because of the Mexican-American’s frequent lack of discipline.

If we look at the Whyte’s previous performances against shorter fighters with high work-rates, Rivas and Chisora, he struggled badly against those guys.

And the prime version of Ruiz Jr. seems heavier handed, more skillfully-gifted and more durable than both of those men.

For sure, people might argue that Ruiz Jr. lost to Parker, with the Kiwi defeated by Whyte. But I feel that Andy actually beat Parker more convincingly than Dillian did.

So if we're only considering a prime-versus-prime match-up, then Ruiz Jr. likely beats Whyte, possibly by very late stoppage. I just don’t think the Brit has the footwork or lateral movement to stay out of harms way against Ruiz Jr. And Dillian is known to run out-of-gas during the championship rounds.

However, if Ruiz Jr. enters the ring weighing close to 300lbs again, as per the Joshua rematch, then Dillian takes a comfortable decision victory.

Marvin Hagler once famously claimed that "it's tough to get out of bed to do roadwork at 5am when you've been sleeping in silk pyjamas". And this applies to the Mexican-American, since I'm not sure whether the multi-millionaire version of Andy Ruiz Jr. has the desire and discipline to compete at his very best.

So I current favour Whyte over Ruiz Jr., mainly due to the Mexican-American's lack of professionalism.

[candyslim]

Ruiz v Arreola? I can hardly contain my excitement. I'd rather see Parker against Fa and I'm bored shitless at hearing about that.

Great or good fights involving a (what passes for an) in-shape Andy Ruiz Jnr. :

Joshua III, Wilder, Whyte, Ortiz, Povetkin, Pulev, Hunter, Miller, Kownacki, Faure, Usyk, Joyce, Hrgovic, Yoka and so on and so forth. I could add another forty to that list that would be more interesting than ARJ v Chris Arreola.