Gennady Golovkin vs. Jaime Munguia - TBA

[margaret thatcher]

good, this would be a war

[Jeff_lacy_ko]

Bombs away

I assume mung cant push ggg back

[Evander]

I had it 115-113 Golovkin. Don't remember which rounds I had to who. I only watched it once.

The power of the media is strong and especially on fight night, people get carried away I know I have.
The rematch should have had GGG winning easily merely based off of how much his jab was landing, it was a no brainer really.
Just look at the opening 4 rounds which clearly went to GGG, yet the judges managed to split them 50/50.
It goes to show you how valuable big ticket fighters are to the economy and just how far they'll go to protect them, they don't hide it very well and it's become almost theatrical in it's nature nowadays.

I'd like to see it again. It was a close fight, and a good fight.

Was it really though ?
Perhaps on an official 115-113 115-113 and 114-114 judges scorecard it does look on the face of it to be close, but just watch the fight.
There's no way a clean judge could possibly have come up of those numbers, even the draw makes no sense.
You had 115-113 for GGG, which means even you had 5 rounds for Canelo, I'd like to know where those 5 rounds came from because I didn't see them.
At best Canelo won maybe 3 rounds 4 at most but even that's a push.
If you do have some spare time in your schedule gilg, can you tell me exactly what 5 rounds you saw for Canelo, perhaps we can go over them together with a fine tooth comb, it should be interesting reading for the board.

[adislav123]

canelo no way one 5 rounds. no way. period.

[Ruthless-RKO]

The power of the media is strong and especially on fight night, people get carried away I know I have.
The rematch should have had GGG winning easily merely based off of how much his jab was landing, it was a no brainer really.
Just look at the opening 4 rounds which clearly went to GGG, yet the judges managed to split them 50/50.
It goes to show you how valuable big ticket fighters are to the economy and just how far they'll go to protect them, they don't hide it very well and it's become almost theatrical in it's nature nowadays.

I'd like to see it again. It was a close fight, and a good fight.

Was it really though ?
Perhaps on an official 115-113 115-113 and 114-114 judges scorecard it does look on the face of it to be close, but just watch the fight.
There's no way a clean judge could possibly have come up of those numbers, even the draw makes no sense.
You had 115-113 for GGG, which means even you had 5 rounds for Canelo, I'd like to know where those 5 rounds came from because I didn't see them.
At best Canelo won maybe 3 rounds 4 at most but even that's a push.
If you do have some spare time in your schedule gilg, can you tell me exactly what 5 rounds you saw for Canelo, perhaps we can go over them together with a fine tooth comb, it should be interesting reading for the board.

I watched the fight once.. live. Scored it 117-111 for GGG. Never watched it again.

[gilgamesh]

The power of the media is strong and especially on fight night, people get carried away I know I have.
The rematch should have had GGG winning easily merely based off of how much his jab was landing, it was a no brainer really.
Just look at the opening 4 rounds which clearly went to GGG, yet the judges managed to split them 50/50.
It goes to show you how valuable big ticket fighters are to the economy and just how far they'll go to protect them, they don't hide it very well and it's become almost theatrical in it's nature nowadays.

I'd like to see it again. It was a close fight, and a good fight.

Was it really though ?
Perhaps on an official 115-113 115-113 and 114-114 judges scorecard it does look on the face of it to be close, but just watch the fight.
There's no way a clean judge could possibly have come up of those numbers, even the draw makes no sense.
You had 115-113 for GGG, which means even you had 5 rounds for Canelo, I'd like to know where those 5 rounds came from because I didn't see them.
At best Canelo won maybe 3 rounds 4 at most but even that's a push.
If you do have some spare time in your schedule gilg, can you tell me exactly what 5 rounds you saw for Canelo, perhaps we can go over them together with a fine tooth comb, it should be interesting reading for the board.

Is the fight on YouTube because otherwise you're sh*t out of luck.

[Ruthless-RKO]

I'd like to see it again. It was a close fight, and a good fight.

Was it really though ?
Perhaps on an official 115-113 115-113 and 114-114 judges scorecard it does look on the face of it to be close, but just watch the fight.
There's no way a clean judge could possibly have come up of those numbers, even the draw makes no sense.
You had 115-113 for GGG, which means even you had 5 rounds for Canelo, I'd like to know where those 5 rounds came from because I didn't see them.
At best Canelo won maybe 3 rounds 4 at most but even that's a push.
If you do have some spare time in your schedule gilg, can you tell me exactly what 5 rounds you saw for Canelo, perhaps we can go over them together with a fine tooth comb, it should be interesting reading for the board.

Is the fight on YouTube because otherwise you're sh*t out of luck.

UK broadcast.

There are plenty others.

[gilgamesh]

Not available in my country

[Ruthless-RKO]

Not available in my country

And this?

[gilgamesh]

Not available in my country

And this?

There ya go. I'll give it a rewatch here shortly.

[gilgamesh]

Round 1 to Canelo
Round 2 to Golovkin

Both of the opening rounds could've went either way.

Round 2 in particular was razor thin with both guys landing solid power shots.

[gilgamesh]

Rounds 3 and 4 to Golovkin. Both fairly clear. Especially Round 3.

[gilgamesh]

Round 5 to Golovkin
Round 6 to Canelo

Both clear

[Ruthless-RKO]

So 4-2 GGG after 6 rounds.

[gilgamesh]

So 4-2 GGG after 6 rounds.

You are correct sir. With 2 rounds that could go either way. Which I split between the fighters. So you could conceivably have 5-1 Golovkin or 3-3 even depending on how you saw those rounds.

Now back to the fight.

[gilgamesh]

Round 7 to Canelo
Round 8 to Golovkin

I found it interesting that Lederman gave Round 7 to Golovkin as I thought it was a pretty clear Canelo round.

Round 8 could go either way, but GGG cuts Canelo in that round so that gives him the edge in my book.

[Onetimeonly]

A cut influences your card?

[gilgamesh]

9 and 10 to Golovkin

Both clear

[gilgamesh]

A cut influences your card?

In a round that's even otherwise yes. If you cut the guy, it means you did notable damage. It's something to separate the guys when little else does.

[Onetimeonly]

A cut influences your card?

In a round that's even otherwise yes. If you cut the guy, it means you did notable damage. It's something to separate the guys when little else does.

OK, legitimate question. I'd just go even there.

[gilgamesh]

Round 11 and 12 to Golovkin.

Round 11 could go either way I thought. Round 12 was clear.

[gilgamesh]

A cut influences your card?

In a round that's even otherwise yes. If you cut the guy, it means you did notable damage. It's something to separate the guys when little else does.

OK, legitimate question. I'd just go even there.

I would go even as well if the official judges ever did anymore.

[Ruthless-RKO]

A cut influences your card?

In a round that's even otherwise yes. If you cut the guy, it means you did notable damage. It's something to separate the guys when little else does.

OK, legitimate question. I'd just go even there.

Also, some people just tend to cut easy don’t they?

[Ruthless-RKO]

Round 11 and 12 to Golovkin.

Round 11 could go either way I thought. Round 12 was clear.

So what’s your final card. 8-4?

[gilgamesh]

The power of the media is strong and especially on fight night, people get carried away I know I have.
The rematch should have had GGG winning easily merely based off of how much his jab was landing, it was a no brainer really.
Just look at the opening 4 rounds which clearly went to GGG, yet the judges managed to split them 50/50.
It goes to show you how valuable big ticket fighters are to the economy and just how far they'll go to protect them, they don't hide it very well and it's become almost theatrical in it's nature nowadays.

I'd like to see it again. It was a close fight, and a good fight.

Was it really though ?
Perhaps on an official 115-113 115-113 and 114-114 judges scorecard it does look on the face of it to be close, but just watch the fight.
There's no way a clean judge could possibly have come up of those numbers, even the draw makes no sense.
You had 115-113 for GGG, which means even you had 5 rounds for Canelo, I'd like to know where those 5 rounds came from because I didn't see them.
At best Canelo won maybe 3 rounds 4 at most but even that's a push.
If you do have some spare time in your schedule gilg, can you tell me exactly what 5 rounds you saw for Canelo, perhaps we can go over them together with a fine tooth comb, it should be interesting reading for the board.

Ok Evander so since it was primarily you who were interested I'll give you the full recap.

Round 1 - Canelo *
Round 2 - GGG *
Round 3- GGG
Round 4 - GGG
Round 5 - GGG
Round 6 - Canelo
Round 7- Canelo
Round 8 - GGG *
Round 9 - GGG
Round 10 - GGG
Round 11 - GGG *
Round 12 - GGG

So my score was 117-111 Golovkin, if you give Canelo the benefit of the doubt on every single close round then you have a 114-114 Draw.

So having him as the winner means you're just awarding him a round he clearly didn't win somewhere in there.