PTBF 2020 - RULES & STANDINGS THREAD - FINAL

[JCS]

Dear JCS, next Saturday, there will be Ryan García vs. Luke Campbell, which is probably the first PTBF-fight of 2021. One week to go, that is, will you please put the January thread up, or will there be no PTBF game anymore?

Haven't decided yet.

Turnout was miserable this year and is decreasing each year.

[ironbeard]

Dear JCS, next Saturday, there will be Ryan García vs. Luke Campbell, which is probably the first PTBF-fight of 2021. One week to go, that is, will you please put the January thread up, or will there be no PTBF game anymore?

Haven't decided yet.

Turnout was miserable this year and is decreasing each year.

I blame 2020.

Thanks for your efforts over the years, JCS.

[claudevsq]

Yeah, COVID... But now, there are a lot more fights again... Last year, from March to August, there was literally nothing. Please, don't cut the line... You can't give up until you have at least won one of your cups...

[bobcatbox]

I’m new but I solemnly affirm that I will compete all next season! Just started playing PTBF after boxing returned and will be super bummed if it’s gone.

Appreciate your work to make it possible either way, JCS!

[JCS]

Dear JCS, next Saturday, there will be Ryan García vs. Luke Campbell, which is probably the first PTBF-fight of 2021. One week to go, that is, will you please put the January thread up, or will there be no PTBF game anymore?

Haven't decided yet.

Turnout was miserable this year and is decreasing each year.

I blame 2020.

Thanks for your efforts over the years, JCS.

Sadly, I think it is the sport.

Players by Year


2005 127
2006 140
2007 130
2008 198
2009 191
2010 170
2011 159
2012 134
2013 130
2014 142
2015 104
2016 94
2017 103
2018 101
2019 62
2020 47

[claudevsq]

I see what you mean... Still, thank you very much for all the years, and don't forget to close out the season because there is still one fight left!

[DrDuke]

Players by Year


2005 127
2006 140
2007 130
2008 198
2009 191
2010 170
2011 159
2012 134
2013 130
2014 142
2015 104
2016 94
2017 103
2018 101
2019 62
2020 47

Actually, this illustrates the boxing decline in the timeline well. People were getting less and less interested in the sport after the mid 2000s, after the likes of Tyson, Holyfied, Lewis, Jones retired / declined and went out of the first plane. The Klitschko / Mayweather era caused the decrease of an interest towards boxing. Mayweather-Pacquiao became the final nail in the coffin of boxing's popularity - people were waiting that bout for years, while the fight happened too late and was lackluster. Around that time, 2015-2016, McGregor became popular and everyone went to watch UFC. That's how the business of boxing killed the sport.

[claudevsq]

Right. And should Canelo-Golovkin III ever happen, it also comes 5 years too late... Because back then, Golovkin would have beaten the crap out of Canelo... IMHO.

[Duran1970]

Just like Spence/ Crawford will be

[margaret thatcher]

what happened starting 2019? that's when there is one big arse drop off

did a bunch of posters get banned or something

[claudevsq]

There are always some posters getting banned, but not to that extent, I believe...

[JCS]

CONGRATS to LeeSanders for winning PTBF 2020...

I'm happy getting a Top 10 position! You'd think I could win my own competition, but have never placed Top 3.. at least since my records started way back in 2005. Ring Anncr (Joe Antonacci) started the competition a little before that.. but got banned around that point... so there may have been a year or two lost due to poor recordkeeping. Not saying I won any of those.. just giving a little bit of history!

As previously talked about in the thread... interest has waned in the competition and also in boxing. Blame HBO dropping coverage... blame a ton of big names retiring... blame the evil Covid-19, but it is undeniable. Even as you look through the 2020 PTBF stats, we had roughly 40 picks per fight out of the gate, which quickly dropped to about 20.

All good things come to an end.. and this seems to be a good time to retire the competition. I'll never say never in bringing it back, but just looking at the schedule for the next couple months leaves me as disinterested as I've ever been in the sport.

Let's see where the sport is in a few months, but as of now.. it is goodbye to PTBF!


Career PTBF Metrics (2005-2020, unless stated otherwise)


Cumulative Sum of Score/AvgYearScore

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37.19	JCS
34.60	armageto
32.42	Ally-M1
29.21	ldlamb
26.65	claudevsq
26.22	warpninehulk
25.74	Gimp Mask
24.82	pete thebet
24.52	cletomex
21.91	sockdolager
21.85	Comegalletas
21.59	WadeGwynn
21.29	joe strong
21.05	lvlarc
20.79	thunderfromdownunder
20.50	T.M.K.
19.41	Cloutov
19.23	verballistic
19.08	Freedom2013
18.82	hbg
18.64	HyacinthusTurnipseed
18.47	brooklyndoug
18.35	Kuppy09
17.37	diddy
17.11	gilgamesh

Avg result of Score/AvgYearScore (Minimum of 5 years played)

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2.577	locoxelbox
2.352	hbg
2.332	woe31
2.324	JCS
2.315	Ally-M1
2.230	glittermonkey
2.191	sockdolager
2.171	psivolob
2.162	armageto
2.138	The-Artist
2.120	Freedom2013
2.086	ldlamb
2.060	Predator13
2.050	claudevsq
2.044	cletomex
2.039	Kuppy09
2.007	Poncey
1.986	Comegalletas
1.978	PredatorHayds
1.970	BoxBuzz
1.963	WadeGwynn
1.941	Cloutov
1.936	joe strong
1.934	The_Truth
1.930	diddy

Sum Result of 10pts (1st place), 7pts (2nd place), 5pts (3rd place), 2 pts (Top 10 finish), 1 pt (Top 25 finish) w/ Years Played

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39	lvlarc (11)
37	Ally-M1 (14)
32	hbg (8)
24	warpninehulk (15)
22	JCS (16)
21	WadeGwynn (11)
20	sockdolager (10)
20	cletomex (12)
20	glittermonkey (7)
18	gilgamesh (9)
17	HyacinthusTurnipseed (10)
17	The-Artist (7)
16	armageto (16)
15	Maddox (3)
14	PredatorHayds (5)
14	ldlamb (14)
14	Cloutov (10)
13	Freedom2013 (9)
13	locoxelbox (5)
13	ironbeard (9)
13	The_Truth (5)
12	claudevsq (13)
12	Comegalletas (11)
11	EJA (4)
11	LeeSanders (3)
11	joe strong (11)
11	matador (2)

Average Finish Place - Minimum of 5 years played

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6.500	hbg
10.71	Ally-M1
13.00	JCS
15.00	PredatorHayds
16.85	glittermonkey
18.75	armageto
18.90	sockdolager
19.63	Comegalletas
20.66	Freedom2013
21.88	gilgamesh
22.21	ldlamb
24.00	psivolob
24.50	cletomex
24.60	HyacinthusTurnipseed
24.80	Cloutov
25.23	claudevsq
25.42	Predator13
25.45	joe strong
25.60	boxing_rocks
25.77	Kuppy09
26.00	The_Truth
26.63	WadeGwynn
27.20	locoxelbox
27.27	T.M.K.
27.57	Gimp Mask

Most Consistent Finisher - Previous 3 years, average finish position of 50 or better -- Must have played in all 3 years

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ElJefe
IRLangmaid25
SenorPipino
marvelous marv
stevekrazy
Fisto
thomasjkelley
WestEndRiot
WadeGwynn
LeeSanders
Heretic
oogiebe
Cloutov

Highest Season Avg of DFtP (Total Fights Picked) for 2014-

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433.1 (85)	The-Artist
328.1 (86)	CrazyHorse
308.6 (44)	giacomino
259.0 (41)	Boxerbeetle
241.7 (34)	Evander
240.4 (153)	Best Coast
178.6 (101)	handsofstone
174.3 (56)	Federiqo
167.9 (262)	Ally-M1
166.8 (83)	verballistic
166.0 (12)	DSW
161.2 (232)	Comegalletas
159.1 (7)	MikeyLo
157.7 (42)	Kilsby
141.8 (12)	bobcatbox
131.8 (45)	sockdolager
131.0 (268)	hbg
126.2 (86)	ElJefe
125.5 (104)	Air Rodney
120.1 (18)	Oliverking
117.9 (4)	DMA1987
115.4 (33)	thunderfromdownunder
113.0 (12)	candyslim
113.0 (6)	No Tomorrow
112.1 (173)	PredatorHayds

[Ally-M1]

Thank you, JCS. I’ve enjoyed every year I’ve played - even when I’ve forgot the odd pick!

Well, maybe not the year’s I finished 2nd

Seriously - loved this competition. Felt I was pretty good at it, too. Certainly by the stats.

Anyway, thanks again for running it. Hope to see it back. No competition like it, yours is the best of the best.

Happy New Year to all!

[DrDuke]

At least I've made top 10 this year. The first time in three years of competing. It was a fun thread, it's pity there will be no more of it next year.

[oogiebe]

Well thanks for doing this all these years. I only recently was diligent in participating, but I really enjoyed it. Sorry to see it end.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Amazing game!

Schedule is not worth it right now..

Maybe after Covid..

[Duran1970]

Gilgamesh beat me by a point for 2nd? Like Trump I demand a recount!!..hahaha just kidding..it was fun thanks for doing it.

[LeeSanders]

Thank you man! Your effort gives us a really interesting game to play. My english is pretty poor and I'm on the countryside with a shitty connection. So I'm not going to write a big speech. Thanks for everything.

[WestEndRiot]

Congrats to LeeSanders on the victory!

And big thanks to JCS for the work to keep this going

I really thought this would be the year I'd finally make the podium and it went right to the wire, but fell just short again

[joe strong]

I enjoyed playing. I think Covid had a lot to do with the 2020 level of interest. There was no boxing for awhile & people had other things to concern themselves with. I was hoping for another chance to finish in the top 3...

[thomasjkelley]

I certainly appreciate the work you put into the competition JCS. It supplied us a decade or so of entertainment & you did it selflessly, without ever asking for anything in return. I agree with your decision, the interest just doesn't seem to be there anymore. Good luck.

[armageto]

Thanks JCS for running the contest. With it gone, another reason not to visit the site. Soon I'll be a ghost.

[margaret thatcher]

Thanks JCS for running the contest. With it gone, another reason not to visit the site. Soon I'll be a ghost.

dont make me cry man

[gilgamesh]

Picked up my 2nd Silver Medal on a year when I was paying less attention than ever since I started following the sport. Interesting and ironic.

[gilgamesh]

CONGRATS to LeeSanders for winning PTBF 2020...

I'm happy getting a Top 10 position! You'd think I could win my own competition, but have never placed Top 3.. at least since my records started way back in 2005. Ring Anncr (Joe Antonacci) started the competition a little before that.. but got banned around that point... so there may have been a year or two lost due to poor recordkeeping. Not saying I won any of those.. just giving a little bit of history!

As previously talked about in the thread... interest has waned in the competition and also in boxing. Blame HBO dropping coverage... blame a ton of big names retiring... blame the evil Covid-19, but it is undeniable. Even as you look through the 2020 PTBF stats, we had roughly 40 picks per fight out of the gate, which quickly dropped to about 20.

All good things come to an end.. and this seems to be a good time to retire the competition. I'll never say never in bringing it back, but just looking at the schedule for the next couple months leaves me as disinterested as I've ever been in the sport.

Let's see where the sport is in a few months, but as of now.. it is goodbye to PTBF!

Don't blame you at all for this decision. I certainly hope Boxing picks back up, but I like you find myself as disinterested in the sport now as I've ever been since I started following it nearly 20 years ago.

Thanks for all the years at the helm JCS. I've always enjoyed this game, and hope to enjoy it again someday if Boxing returns to it's previous Glory somehow.

Like you say. You can never say never.