Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua - 2020 OLD thread

Who wins?

Poll runs till 23 Aug 2026, 15:20

Fury - Decision
25
26%
Fury - T/KO
42
43%
DRAW
0
No votes
Joshua - T/KO
31
32%
Joshua - Decision
0
No votes
 
Total votes: 98

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Boxerbeetle wrote: 22 Dec 2020, 05:20 I had a dream about this fight last night - Fury stopped Joshua late with an uppercut after a furious exchange of blows in centre ring.

My boxing dreams are wrong 99% of the time, but I’ll still put some money on that happening, just in case.
Btw, before Wilder-Fury I was announced, I had a weird dream of Fury fighting a rematch against Wlad and it being a draw. I remember, I even wrote about that somewhere on the forum. Eventually there was no Wlad rematch, but there was a draw indeed. Am I a visionary at least a little bit? :D
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I don’t see Joshua as that explosive. Definitely not in the Mike Tyson sense of the word. Ruiz, Takam, Parker looked totally unbothered by his power.
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DrDuke wrote: 22 Dec 2020, 04:31
No way. The fights against the comers like Joyce and Hrgovic sound interesting.
No they dont
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dr_devious wrote: 22 Dec 2020, 06:14
DrDuke wrote: 22 Dec 2020, 04:31
No way. The fights against the comers like Joyce and Hrgovic sound interesting.
No they dont
Nobody will make you to watch them, if they happen one day. :maybe:
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josh has dropped or stop all but 1 guy he's faced, even tyson couldnt finish everyone, even wilder's had multiple fights where he pounded on a guy round after round but couldnt put him down
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margaret thatcher wrote: 22 Dec 2020, 07:24 josh has dropped or stop all but 1 guy he's faced, even tyson couldnt finish everyone, even wilder's had multiple fights where he pounded on a guy but couldnt put him down
Parker?
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ya our boi joe

go and watch wilder-stiv 1 or wilder-duhaupas, deontay absolutely pounds these guys with flush loaded up powershots for 11-12 rounds but never drops them. and of 3 common opponents with aj, josh stopped 2 faster.

but who doubts wilder's power? even if you're a huge puncher you're not gonna flatten dudes each fight
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margaret thatcher wrote: 22 Dec 2020, 07:27 ya our boi joe

go and watch wilder-stiv 1 or wilder-duhaupas, deontay absolutely pounds these guys with flush loaded up powershots for 11-12 rounds but never drops them. even if you're a huge puncher you're not gonna flatten everyone
TBH, The fight before vs. Takam would have probably gone the distance. But they wanted to keep his 100% KO win in tact before he was going to fight Parker, because they used that a lot in the build up, with Parker saying he had never been dropped or stopped and Joshua had at that point stopped everyone.

There was a round in Wilder-Stiv, I think it was early on.. I think Stiv was saved by the bell though.
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DrDuke wrote: 22 Dec 2020, 06:23
dr_devious wrote: 22 Dec 2020, 06:14
DrDuke wrote: 22 Dec 2020, 04:31
No way. The fights against the comers like Joyce and Hrgovic sound interesting.
No they dont
Nobody will make you to watch them, if they happen one day. :maybe:
:TU:
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dr_devious wrote: 22 Dec 2020, 12:21
DrDuke wrote: 22 Dec 2020, 06:23
dr_devious wrote: 22 Dec 2020, 06:14

No they dont
Nobody will make you to watch them, if they happen one day. :maybe:
:TU:
He will watch them, for sure...

if he loves boxing :)
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AJ makes Fury a serious offer according to his interview on boxing scene.


I thought terms had been agreed months ago according to Ed?
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maverick23 wrote: 22 Dec 2020, 04:13
mickey1975 wrote: 22 Dec 2020, 03:29 I want Tyson to retire after beating AJ. What better way than to sit back with £100M, lovely family and just say “I’m just a big gypo, you were all right when you said I was useless”.
I think John will push for that too. If he beats AJ then there’s not really anyone that people would be desperate to see him in with.
Unless WBO goes walkabouts, although I don’t think he minds much about the undisputed title... he’s already won all the belts
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Shhhh wrote: 26 Dec 2020, 09:58
DrDuke wrote: 22 Dec 2020, 04:31
mickey1975 wrote: 22 Dec 2020, 03:29 I want Tyson to retire after beating AJ. What better way than to sit back with £100M, lovely family and just say “I’m just a big gypo, you were all right when you said I was useless”.
No way. The fights against the comers like Joyce and Hrgovic sound interesting.
I’d rather see Tyson retire and are Joe fight Hrgovic for the title
Why on earth should a fighter in his prime retire? Fury will be a reigning inargual champion in a case of the win over Joshua. How can a fighter abandon the opportunities opened by that? Especially if he already suffered in a similar case.
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If Fury did retire after an AJ win, he would have more money than he knew what to do with, would have beaten the best of his era, he wouldn't be accused of ducking anyone.
No one would be thinking what if when it comes to Usyk and Joyce etc.
If he was genuinely content in himself he could easily retire.
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Agreed - for Tysons legacy it would be perfect to retire after a win against Joshua (if he wins obviously); forget about the 2-3 fight series, and just walk away for a lucrative media career. Sure for a short while there would be those saying he ducked the rematch .. he ducked Usyk .. some would even say he will be ducking Joyce too. but within a couple years he would be in the Calzaghe mythical memory of people.

But ... if he wins against Joshua, turning down an even bigger amount of money against someone he had already beat would be too big a carrot.

Has anybody discussed the outcome for Fury if he gets rinsed by Joshua? if Joshua beats him up for 2-3 rnds then KO`s him?
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Depending on how Fury beats Joshua, Fury will have a decent claim for being called the best British HW ever. If he makes a bunch of solid title defences afterwards, against the likes of Usyk, Joyce, some other comers, it can become a claim for being the best HW ever. Fury gotta take on the opportunity of such legacy.
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Can’t see him retiring, he loves it and it keeps him on the straight and narrow
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Glad to see that the forum went from anti-Fury when I was last here to pro-Fury, and kind of amazed how low everyone has Joshua in the polls considering so many people were high on him after avenging his loss to Ruiz.

I generally don't make predictions until the day of the fight, when I've seen all the details (ie, training videos, the weigh-in, the fighters demeanor) but I'll say at this moment Fury TKO somewhere between rounds 6 through 9.

I think it'll have it's moments early on, but it'll be pretty lopsided once it gets going and I'm not so sure anyone would want to see a rematch. The real question is, "Who's a believable threat after Joshua?", and there's nobody really on the horizon.

The myth of Dubois was shattered by Joyce. Usyk struggled with Chisora. Wilder's still spinning conspiracy theories rather than accepting defeat. Fury could probably be champion for the next five years and not worry about anyone being a serious threat.

That's the only worry I have about the whole matter, because when all there is is B-side opponents in front of Fury he grows complacent. Sure, he'll beat them without much issue, but how long can somebody go on like that?

That's why I think a crossover UFC fight with Stipe Miocic is a strong possibility. Fury loves challenges, and if Joshua is a cakewalk and Usyk's too small, what is going to motivate Fury to keep on boxing unless he fills in the void with more WWE ventures and doing a one-off contest in MMA?

Jesus Christ Almighty God bless you all 😊

P.S.

The Fury/Joshua fight ought to be in Britain and nowhere else. When the two best heavyweights are from Britain, it needs to happen in Britain and not Saudi Arabia or Africa or China or anywhere else. If Hearn makes it happen elsewhere, I will not spend one dime for the ppv.
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HomicideHenry wrote: 31 Dec 2020, 18:27 Glad to see that the forum went from anti-Fury when I was last here to pro-Fury, and kind of amazed how low everyone has Joshua in the polls considering so many people were high on him after avenging his loss to Ruiz.

I generally don't make predictions until the day of the fight, when I've seen all the details (ie, training videos, the weigh-in, the fighters demeanor) but I'll say at this moment Fury TKO somewhere between rounds 6 through 9.

I think it'll have it's moments early on, but it'll be pretty lopsided once it gets going and I'm not so sure anyone would want to see a rematch. The real question is, "Who's a believable threat after Joshua?", and there's nobody really on the horizon.

The myth of Dubois was shattered by Joyce. Usyk struggled with Chisora. Wilder's still spinning conspiracy theories rather than accepting defeat. Fury could probably be champion for the next five years and not worry about anyone being a serious threat.

That's the only worry I have about the whole matter, because when all there is is B-side opponents in front of Fury he grows complacent. Sure, he'll beat them without much issue, but how long can somebody go on like that?

That's why I think a crossover UFC fight with Stipe Miocic is a strong possibility. Fury loves challenges, and if Joshua is a cakewalk and Usyk's too small, what is going to motivate Fury to keep on boxing unless he fills in the void with more WWE ventures and doing a one-off contest in MMA?

Jesus Christ Almighty God bless you all 😊

P.S.

The Fury/Joshua fight ought to be in Britain and nowhere else. When the two best heavyweights are from Britain, it needs to happen in Britain and not Saudi Arabia or Africa or China or anywhere else. If Hearn makes it happen elsewhere, I will not spend one dime for the ppv.
Hearn is not in charge of the promotion. He’s part of it.
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HomicideHenry wrote: 31 Dec 2020, 18:27 Glad to see that the forum went from anti-Fury when I was last here to pro-Fury, and kind of amazed how low everyone has Joshua in the polls considering so many people were high on him after avenging his loss to Ruiz.
I remember, a one of my very first comments on this forum was pointing, that Fury in shape would whoop anyone. It was late 2017. Some found that ridiculous.
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Joshua: Let Me Just Fight Tyson Fury Wherever It Is, Whatever Time It Is

IBF, IBO, WBA, WBO heavyweight champion Anthony Joshua would love to have a showdown with WBC champion Tyson Fury fight at Wembley Stadium.

The chances of that actually happening at the moment is unlikely - after the British Boxing Board of Control shut down all boxing events in the month of January - after cases of COVID-19 began to explode.

Their respective teams are in talks to finalize a two-fight agreement in 2021 - but where the fights take place is another question.

"I would welcome Tyson Fury to [fight at Wembley]. I would welcome him to that all day," Joshua told Sky Sports News.

"It's brilliant for the kids of the local areas to come down. It's like half an hour drive, a couple of hours' drive for some of them. It's a brilliant opportunity to have it here as well, but the government have got to do right by the people and protect us from this virus. I understand the situation that the country is in.

"I think the possibilities of it being in this country are down to the pandemic, and how that shapes up. I feel, for me, I'm not too fussed where it is. I just want to get the fight, because there's so much variables, and so much for me to look at. Where is it going to be? Is he going to take the fight? Have I got a mandatory? I've just stripped it all back now and stopped dealing with that stuff. I've just said, 'Let me just fight Tyson Fury wherever it is, whatever time it is.'"


As to when the first fight could happen? Joshua figures in the month of June.

And at this point Joshua doesn't care where it happens - he just wants Fury.

"I think maybe June, end of June," said Joshua.

"It needs a bit of time, because the pandemic is unpredictable at the minute. We don't know what's happening, but with a little more time, it gives us more time to prepare and plan. Right now, I said to the team, let's get ahead of the curve, let's start putting things in place now. They are doing a great job.

"I promise you, conversations and face-to-face meetings are happening with representations of my team and Tyson Fury's team."
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“I’d welcome Tyson Fury to Wembley”.
I didn’t even know he’d bought it.
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mickey1975 wrote: 05 Jan 2021, 05:41 “I’d welcome Tyson Fury to Wembley”.
I didn’t even know he’d bought it.
Yep. Soon to be renamed ‘The Humble Dome’
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nick henry wrote: 05 Jan 2021, 07:09
mickey1975 wrote: 05 Jan 2021, 05:41 “I’d welcome Tyson Fury to Wembley”.
I didn’t even know he’d bought it.
Yep. Soon to be renamed ‘The Humble Dome’
ha. times two.
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 22 Dec 2020, 07:26
margaret thatcher wrote: 22 Dec 2020, 07:24 josh has dropped or stop all but 1 guy he's faced, even tyson couldnt finish everyone, even wilder's had multiple fights where he pounded on a guy but couldnt put him down
Parker?
I think he’s counting him as the one who hasn’t been dropped or stopped. And counting Ruiz as someone who was dropped due to the knockdown in their first fight.
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