Chris Mannix: one-sided commentary

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Chris Mannix: one-sided commentary

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Prior to the Body shot stoppage, Mannix gave all rounds to Garcia minus Rd 2, where Campbell scored a KD. His commentating seemingly ignored the landed clean punches of Campbell and favoured the punches thrown by Garcia, which hit Campbell’s guard. This guys nonsense makes me want to unsubscribe from Dazn.
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Re: Chris Mannix: seriously incompetent commentator and unofficial scorer

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I saw feedback on Twitter about DAZN's commentary sucking ass. I guess this is what they meant.
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I just don't understand where they get these people.
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Re: Chris Mannix: seriously incompetent commentator and unofficial scorer

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All dazn crew is a bunch of biased morons.

The fight was quite even in the 1st and the 3rd. The commentators called the early part dominant for Garcia despite a KD. The same it looked on their idiotic scorecard.
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Re: Chris Mannix: seriously incompetent commentator and unofficial scorer

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His commentary was very bias, but nothing wrong with his scorecard, defiantly not "seriously incompetent"
How did you have it scored?

i saw it: -Round 1 Garcia, pretty clearly for me
- Round 2 Campbell (10-8), Close round but the knockdown did the trick.
- Round 3 Garcia, Pretty clear for me
- Round 4 Garcia, was razor close, i can 100% see people giving it to Campbell and fair, close round.
- Round 5 Garcia, very close up untill about 10 seconds to go when Garcia rocked campbell and swung it.
- Round 6 Garcia, Comfortably.

Im no judge, and was not trying to score properly, but thats how i had it. Agree Campbell might of landed a bit cleaner, but i dont think it was more effective and damaging.
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Re: Chris Mannix: seriously incompetent commentator and unofficial scorer

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gregregegg wrote: 03 Jan 2021, 05:33 His commentary was very bias, but nothing wrong with his scorecard, defiantly not "seriously incompetent"
How did you have it scored?

i saw it: -Round 1 Garcia, pretty clearly for me
- Round 2 Campbell (10-8), Close round but the knockdown did the trick.
- Round 3 Garcia, Pretty clear for me
- Round 4 Garcia, was razor close, i can 100% see people giving it to Campbell and fair, close round.
- Round 5 Garcia, very close up untill about 10 seconds to go when Garcia rocked campbell and swung it.
- Round 6 Garcia, Comfortably.

Im no judge, and was not trying to score properly, but thats how i had it. Agree Campbell might of landed a bit cleaner, but i dont think it was more effective and damaging.
2, 3 and 4 I’d give to Campbell. Aside from 2, 4 was a dominant Campbell rd as he was able to land his hard left several times to the body and head. Most other rds were extremely close I thought. Even rd 6 Garcia had 2 x 20:second spurts, one at the start, the other at the end but the middle was controlled by Campbell. Maybe I was a bit harsh saying seriously incompetent. The commentary just weren’t giving a fair evaluation imo.
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In the 1st they both scored once significantly.
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i feel i missed out on this commentary saga having DAZN here in Germany. half of the tweets i saw on the fight were about this...our commentators just talked about Campbell's clean lefts, Garcia's speed. no comments on appearance. then occasionally an Image of Hatton popped up 'Ricky Hatton reporting' but no audio :-?
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i gave campbell 2 and 4
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Lol
The legion of Garcia haters is growing as fast as his Twitter following.

Since when have boxing commentators not been biased?

DAZN wasn't any worse than the one-sided trash HBO spewed on a regular basis.

They were just as biased when Canelo and GGG had their fights a few weeks ago.
If GGG or Canelo ever came to a sudden stop Mora's head would go up their ass all the way to his shoulders.
Where were the threads complaining about the commentary then?
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Perseus wrote: 03 Jan 2021, 09:50 Lol
The legion of Garcia haters is growing as fast as his Twitter following.

Since when have boxing commentators not been biased?

DAZN wasn't any worse than the one-sided trash HBO spewed on a regular basis.

They were just as biased when Canelo and GGG had their fights a few weeks ago.
If GGG or Canelo ever came to a sudden stop Mora's head would go up their ass all the way to his shoulders.
Where were the threads complaining about the commentary then?
not really getting a garcia hater vibe here tbh, think the response to the fight has been pretty fair, a little crticism of chris mannix isnt ryan garica hating mate, the garcia defense force doesn't need to waste their time with that

btw, does garcia have a big social media following? i dont think anyone has ever mentioned it :lol:
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dazn commentary is shite

but then is that a surprise coming from the US
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Re: Chris Mannix: one-sided commentary

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I agree the commentary was biased but I also only gave campbell one round.
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You thought the commentary was biased?

omg king ry hater!!
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Commentary on DAZN is too biased, almost makes me mute it every time.

Mannix has gotten into a bad habit of not talking about fights/actual boxing going on in the ring and always focuses on some “narrative” or story arc involving the A-side or DAZN fighter.

Mora is the only one who ever talks about any technical boxing stuff.

Mannix’s scorecards are typically just not good.

Round 4 was clearly a Campbell round. He outboxed and landed much cleaner shots on Garcia who was desperately trying to land a flurry or two. I had Campbell winning at the time of the KO, but that is based on my probably incorrect decision to give the first to Campbell. Everyone else seems to have given it to Garcia. I didn’t see much from him in the first in the way of clean punches but that was just my eye. Thought that Garcia won rounds 3, 5, and 6.
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Imo Campbell won 1 maybe 2 rounds, thats it. I have watched in Spanish though. However, these commentators are biased too, they had Rene Alvarado ahead by 2 rounds.
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bobcatbox wrote: 03 Jan 2021, 11:42 Commentary on DAZN is too biased, almost makes me mute it every time.

Mannix has gotten into a bad habit of not talking about fights/actual boxing going on in the ring and always focuses on some “narrative” or story arc involving the A-side or DAZN fighter.

Mora is the only one who ever talks about any technical boxing stuff.

Mannix’s scorecards are typically just not good.

Round 4 was clearly a Campbell round. He outboxed and landed much cleaner shots on Garcia who was desperately trying to land a flurry or two. I had Campbell winning at the time of the KO, but that is based on my probably incorrect decision to give the first to Campbell. Everyone else seems to have given it to Garcia. I didn’t see much from him in the first in the way of clean punches but that was just my eye. Thought that Garcia won rounds 3, 5, and 6.
The 4th was the one where campbell was hurt and turned his back right? I had that round going his way up until then but gave it to garcia after that.
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the 5th i thought garcia had a nice moment late
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margaret thatcher wrote: 03 Jan 2021, 11:37 You thought the commentary was biased?

omg king ry hater!!
It's the way of the world, I'm afraid. Everything has to be partizan.

If you don't worship the ground a fighter walks on you are a hater, if you don't go out of your way to belittle their every achievement you are a fan boy.

There is no room for sensible discussion sonewhere in the middle ground.
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jockpunk wrote: 03 Jan 2021, 12:25
bobcatbox wrote: 03 Jan 2021, 11:42 Commentary on DAZN is too biased, almost makes me mute it every time.

Mannix has gotten into a bad habit of not talking about fights/actual boxing going on in the ring and always focuses on some “narrative” or story arc involving the A-side or DAZN fighter.

Mora is the only one who ever talks about any technical boxing stuff.

Mannix’s scorecards are typically just not good.

Round 4 was clearly a Campbell round. He outboxed and landed much cleaner shots on Garcia who was desperately trying to land a flurry or two. I had Campbell winning at the time of the KO, but that is based on my probably incorrect decision to give the first to Campbell. Everyone else seems to have given it to Garcia. I didn’t see much from him in the first in the way of clean punches but that was just my eye. Thought that Garcia won rounds 3, 5, and 6.
The 4th was the one where campbell was hurt and turned his back right? I had that round going his way up until then but gave it to garcia after that.
I plan to re-watch the fight tonight, but I think that was the sixth? Right before the KO. Maybe the fifth.
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lazboy wrote: 03 Jan 2021, 06:07
gregregegg wrote: 03 Jan 2021, 05:33 His commentary was very bias, but nothing wrong with his scorecard, defiantly not "seriously incompetent"
How did you have it scored?

i saw it: -Round 1 Garcia, pretty clearly for me
- Round 2 Campbell (10-8), Close round but the knockdown did the trick.
- Round 3 Garcia, Pretty clear for me
- Round 4 Garcia, was razor close, i can 100% see people giving it to Campbell and fair, close round.
- Round 5 Garcia, very close up untill about 10 seconds to go when Garcia rocked campbell and swung it.
- Round 6 Garcia, Comfortably.

Im no judge, and was not trying to score properly, but thats how i had it. Agree Campbell might of landed a bit cleaner, but i dont think it was more effective and damaging.
2, 3 and 4 I’d give to Campbell. Aside from 2, 4 was a dominant Campbell rd as he was able to land his hard left several times to the body and head. Most other rds were extremely close I thought. Even rd 6 Garcia had 2 x 20:second spurts, one at the start, the other at the end but the middle was controlled by Campbell. Maybe I was a bit harsh saying seriously incompetent. The commentary just weren’t giving a fair evaluation imo.
Got the American feed in Japan. I don't know which was more biased, the commentary or the cards those judges turned in.

As above I have Campbell 2,3,4. I'm starting to think I don't know how to score a fight. As it seems pure aggression and punching gloves with your opponent backing up is better than having an actual defence and clearly and cleanly out landing your opponent.

But to the point of the commentators. Did anyone hear the bit in the first round when one commentator was talking about a series of left hooks Campbell landed. The co-commentator tried to play down this conversations, then within the next 30 seconds starts shouting something like "that's the first left hook Campbell has landing tonight"...

I've unsubscribed from DAZN. Want no part of that circus.
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None of these commentators have a lifetime of experience to lean on so unfortunately, I think that their opinions get swayed by the powers of suggestion. It ends up with the three stooges accumulating the same opinions stated 3 different ways.

I found 5 of the rounds extremely tough to score. Luke was doing some really nice work to the body and it wasn’t once mentioned by those goons. With that said, I had that prick Garcia up by 1 heading into that last round. Tank and Teo demolish him.
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Re: Chris Mannix: seriously incompetent commentator and unofficial scorer

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Finkel wrote: 03 Jan 2021, 18:33
lazboy wrote: 03 Jan 2021, 06:07
gregregegg wrote: 03 Jan 2021, 05:33 His commentary was very bias, but nothing wrong with his scorecard, defiantly not "seriously incompetent"
How did you have it scored?

i saw it: -Round 1 Garcia, pretty clearly for me
- Round 2 Campbell (10-8), Close round but the knockdown did the trick.
- Round 3 Garcia, Pretty clear for me
- Round 4 Garcia, was razor close, i can 100% see people giving it to Campbell and fair, close round.
- Round 5 Garcia, very close up untill about 10 seconds to go when Garcia rocked campbell and swung it.
- Round 6 Garcia, Comfortably.

Im no judge, and was not trying to score properly, but thats how i had it. Agree Campbell might of landed a bit cleaner, but i dont think it was more effective and damaging.
2, 3 and 4 I’d give to Campbell. Aside from 2, 4 was a dominant Campbell rd as he was able to land his hard left several times to the body and head. Most other rds were extremely close I thought. Even rd 6 Garcia had 2 x 20:second spurts, one at the start, the other at the end but the middle was controlled by Campbell. Maybe I was a bit harsh saying seriously incompetent. The commentary just weren’t giving a fair evaluation imo.
Got the American feed in Japan. I don't know which was more biased, the commentary or the cards those judges turned in.

As above I have Campbell 2,3,4. I'm starting to think I don't know how to score a fight. As it seems pure aggression and punching gloves with your opponent backing up is better than having an actual defence and clearly and cleanly out landing your opponent.

But to the point of the commentators. Did anyone hear the bit in the first round when one commentator was talking about a series of left hooks Campbell landed. The co-commentator tried to play down this conversations, then within the next 30 seconds starts shouting something like "that's the first left hook Campbell has landing tonight"...

I've unsubscribed from DAZN. Want no part of that circus.
Yes I remember that, and I remember them saying Garcia was dominating throughout. Commentators should not be creating a narrative. They should be followIng the action, and then adding some insight during lulls.

Anyway...I’m now not confident rd 3 should go to Campbell. Rd 2 and 4 i’m confident. Overall, it was closely contested in my opinion and no way the dominate performance the commentators were portraying prior to the KO.

And, to perseus, I’m not a hater. I have new found respect for Garcia. He passed. Campbell was a quality opponent. Congrats to him.
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i think persus hater comment was just so he could reveal to us the unknown fact , that he and no one else has mentioned before, that garcia has a big social media following :maybe:
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keirw wrote: 03 Jan 2021, 13:40
margaret thatcher wrote: 03 Jan 2021, 11:37 You thought the commentary was biased?

omg king ry hater!!
It's the way of the world, I'm afraid. Everything has to be partizan.

If you don't worship the ground a fighter walks on you are a hater, if you don't go out of your way to belittle their every achievement you are a fan boy.

There is no room for sensible discussion sonewhere in the middle ground.
:salut:
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