British boxers taken to sacrificial altar in USA

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Terminator666 wrote: 01 Mar 2020, 10:37 Have any of them upset the apple cart?
Kirkland Laing v Roberto Duran.
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Yeah my perception was that Honeygan was a marking time defence for Curry while they worked out his path up through Light-Middle and to an anticipated clash with Hagler at some point (as this was before Hagler lost to Leonard).

I think Hagler & Curry were largely seen as P4P 1 & 2 at the time, Lloyd upset that big time.
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Shhhh wrote: 02 Mar 2020, 13:23
Stuarty wrote: 02 Mar 2020, 06:56

He had no business being in a ring with Ward :lol:
Yeh but you enjoyed it :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: by the sound of it you probably would got it even if it was PPV :lol: I bet you're not a big paul smith fan? 🤔
I didn't used to mind him years ago when he first appeared on the Contender and a while afterwards but he turned in to a huge bell end :doh:
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Callum Smith.
Luke Campbell.

Fresh meat burning on the DAZN altar. Adam Smith in his basement wondering what's going on :lol:
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BigDoofus wrote: 03 Jan 2021, 06:40 Callum Smith.
Luke Campbell.

Fresh meat burning on the DAZN altar. Adam Smith in his basement wondering what's going on :lol:
They were hardly sacrificial. Smith wanted to test himself against the best P4P in the world, in an excellent fight on paper, and get the kind of money that will set up his family for life.

Campbell wanted to win a world title (albeit this was for an interim) and test himself against an untested up and comer. Fair play to him.

I’d much rather see these kind of fights than see Callum Smith fight N’dam or John Ryder. They’ve taken risky fights, they haven’t been successful but can come again.

It’s not like Welborn being thrown in with Hurd or other similar fights where the Brits have next to no chance.
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Goz wrote: 02 Mar 2020, 12:32 Yeah my perception was that Honeygan was a marking time defence for Curry while they worked out his path up through Light-Middle and to an anticipated clash with Hagler at some point (as this was before Hagler lost to Leonard).

I think Hagler & Curry were largely seen as P4P 1 & 2 at the time, Lloyd upset that big time.
From what i read some years later, curry already had developed a pretty serious coke habit too, which would end up shortening his career, though running into a peak Mike McCallum didnt help much either.
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Your not a sacrificial lamb if your getting well paid!

And I'd much prefer our boys fight at top level than wait around for a vacant title.

If your British champ or more and an opportunity comes it should be grabbed.
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Theres been lots of undeserving title shots or nearly title shots (Purdy vs Alexander anyway) but the last 6 months or so has been pretty poor for world class boxing from the UK with Smith, Campbell, Whyte and Chisora all having to regroup following pretty emphatic losses (on way or another)
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Not read the previous posts but Andy Holligan was out of his depth against Chavez.
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MasterG wrote: 03 Jan 2021, 13:09 Not read the previous posts but Andy Holligan was out of his depth against Chavez.
Not in the USA, was it?
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Jimmy2020 wrote: 03 Jan 2021, 13:47
MasterG wrote: 03 Jan 2021, 13:09 Not read the previous posts but Andy Holligan was out of his depth against Chavez.
Not in the USA, was it?
Was it in Mexico?
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MasterG wrote: 03 Jan 2021, 14:01
Jimmy2020 wrote: 03 Jan 2021, 13:47
MasterG wrote: 03 Jan 2021, 13:09 Not read the previous posts but Andy Holligan was out of his depth against Chavez.
Not in the USA, was it?
Was it in Mexico?
In front of like 100,000 in an outside bullring, put up a gallant effort though, you can't turn down fights light that
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maverick23 wrote: 03 Jan 2021, 07:47
BigDoofus wrote: 03 Jan 2021, 06:40 Callum Smith.
Luke Campbell.

Fresh meat burning on the DAZN altar. Adam Smith in his basement wondering what's going on :lol:
They were hardly sacrificial. Smith wanted to test himself against the best P4P in the world, in an excellent fight on paper, and get the kind of money that will set up his family for life.

Campbell wanted to win a world title (albeit this was for an interim) and test himself against an untested up and comer. Fair play to him.

I’d much rather see these kind of fights than see Callum Smith fight N’dam or John Ryder. They’ve taken risky fights, they haven’t been successful but can come again.

It’s not like Welborn being thrown in with Hurd or other similar fights where the Brits have next to no chance.
Did you see the cards? Campbell had next to no chance.
One card only gave Campbell the 10-8 round in the second.
One card didn't even give a 10-8 in the 2nd.
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Finkel wrote: 03 Jan 2021, 18:01
maverick23 wrote: 03 Jan 2021, 07:47
BigDoofus wrote: 03 Jan 2021, 06:40 Callum Smith.
Luke Campbell.

Fresh meat burning on the DAZN altar. Adam Smith in his basement wondering what's going on :lol:
They were hardly sacrificial. Smith wanted to test himself against the best P4P in the world, in an excellent fight on paper, and get the kind of money that will set up his family for life.

Campbell wanted to win a world title (albeit this was for an interim) and test himself against an untested up and comer. Fair play to him.

I’d much rather see these kind of fights than see Callum Smith fight N’dam or John Ryder. They’ve taken risky fights, they haven’t been successful but can come again.

It’s not like Welborn being thrown in with Hurd or other similar fights where the Brits have next to no chance.
Did you see the cards? Campbell had next to no chance.
One card only gave Campbell the 10-8 round in the second.
One card didn't even give a 10-8 in the 2nd.
Yep. Poor cards but not I only had Campbell winning 2 rounds. That doesn’t mean Campbell had no chance though. He pushed Linares very close, gave Loma one of his tougher fights and nearly stopped Garcia in the 2nd.
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Not no chance, I agree.
Just next to no chance.
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Coco wrote: 03 Jan 2021, 16:37
MasterG wrote: 03 Jan 2021, 14:01
Jimmy2020 wrote: 03 Jan 2021, 13:47

Not in the USA, was it?
Was it in Mexico?
In front of like 100,000 in an outside bullring, put up a gallant effort though, you can't turn down fights light that
Of course not. Andy earned his shot. Just a shame it was against a champion who wasnt ready to be beaten.
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Someone mentioned McGuigan v Cruz. I dont think Cruz beat McGuigan it was the damn heat really. In this country it would have been a different story.
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MasterG wrote: 04 Jan 2021, 06:02 Someone mentioned McGuigan v Cruz. I dont think Cruz beat McGuigan it was the damn heat really. In this country it would have been a different story.
While it didn't help it wasn't like the fight was at midday like Colin Jones
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Frampton did win the first fight with LSC.
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Anyone mention George Galloway and how he made The Senate into the sacrificial lamb? :lol: :salut: :box:
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Going back a few years but always puzzled me who thought that Nigel Wenton would stand a chance vs sharmba Mitchell.

Gary Jacobs and Buddy Mcgirt is another strange one.
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Fray Bentos wrote: 11 Jan 2021, 08:02 Anyone mention George Galloway and how he made The Senate into the sacrificial lamb? :lol: :salut: :box:
Fantastic viewing! In the end they couldn't get him out of there quickly enough!
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Coco wrote: 11 Jan 2021, 17:55
Fray Bentos wrote: 11 Jan 2021, 08:02 Anyone mention George Galloway and how he made The Senate into the sacrificial lamb? :lol: :salut: :box:
Fantastic viewing! In the end they couldn't get him out of there quickly enough!
Agreed Galloway was on form and spot on that day. Fantastic stuff.
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brutal beatdown given to those yanks, almost painful to watch :bag:
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