Biggest Cherry Pickers in Boxing atm?
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"El Terremoto" Leodegario Santa Cruz
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Jeff_lacy_ko
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Dennis galarza
He fought edner last year
He fought edner last year
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You make a good point, but boxers (mainly high profile top 10 guys) do have a say, when it is convenient for them to have one, otherwise blame it on the promoter. Many examples of that over the years.
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Definetely not Charlo, he fought Korobov on short notice and Korobov had been avoided like the plague.
One thing don't fighters have a say if they feel they want tougher fights?, Example, Can't Gervonta Davis Tell Mayweather Jr, Look you had your day, your day is over, I am the The Man in this sport now, I am the Show, I am the one they are coming to see, I demand you put me in the toughest fights possible, Berchelt, Devin Haney whoever, Put me in with the ones the fans don't think i can beat or I am going to fire you. Apparently Eubank Jr. went against Eddie Hearns advice by picking Korobov, And Hearn Blasted Eubank Jr. for going against his advice. Ryan Garcia could demand the same from De La Hoya.
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margaret thatcher
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Quite clearly with Charlo there is a business roadblock to him not fighting better opposition, since he's not with DAZN and they have like all the other top MWs. Julian Williams is arguably the top guy at 154 now and he already pounded him. The WBC also took Mall's Canelo mandatory away with the franchise nonsense and you can't blame Charlo for that. A fight vs Eubank seems like it might be getting lined up and that would be solid.
Don't really understand what happened with Tank, since he always looks great and pounded better and bigger opposition than they started matching him with. Gamboa is a bit of a step back up I guess.
Don't really understand what happened with Tank, since he always looks great and pounded better and bigger opposition than they started matching him with. Gamboa is a bit of a step back up I guess.
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Larry Holmes
Floyd Mayweather jr.
Floyd Mayweather jr.
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Canelo and Crawford.
The most risk aversive pair of conmen in the game.
Fury not far behind.
On the other hand Kell Brook seems to not know the meaning of fear.
He'd probably consider fighting Joshua if it was offered.
The most risk aversive pair of conmen in the game.
Fury not far behind.
On the other hand Kell Brook seems to not know the meaning of fear.
He'd probably consider fighting Joshua if it was offered.
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Thomastearns wrote: ↑05 Jan 2021, 13:25 Canelo and Crawford.
The most risk aversive pair of conmen in the game.
Fury not far behind.
On the other hand Kell Brook seems to not know the meaning of fear.
He'd probably consider fighting Joshua if it was offered.
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Re: Biggest Cherry Pickers in Boxing atm?
canelo has fought
floyd
ggg x2
rocky
kovalev
lara
jacobs
cotto
unbeaten trout
smith
risk averse?
floyd
ggg x2
rocky
kovalev
lara
jacobs
cotto
unbeaten trout
smith
risk averse?
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Yes but he hasn't faced Superman, Godzilla or Jesus Christ.margaret thatcher wrote: ↑05 Jan 2021, 15:02 canelo has fought
floyd
ggg x2
rocky
kovalev
lara
jacobs
cotto
unbeaten trout
smith
risk averse?
Until he stops ducking them he is a cherry picker.
I swear some people just hate fighters just to hate. No reason to question Alvarez and his resume.
Yes he has had his share of gimme fights but his overall record speaks for itself
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it's weird, so many fans often pick the guy with the best resume as the biggest coward, etc.
they did it with floyd before canelo
they did it with floyd before canelo
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Fielding was a cherry picking to capture the SMW paper strap. Now it's not much relevant, cause he won Smith for the real belt.margaret thatcher wrote: ↑05 Jan 2021, 15:02 canelo has fought
floyd
ggg x2
rocky
kovalev
lara
jacobs
cotto
unbeaten trout
smith
risk averse?
Obviously it's not possible to call cherry picking anything of the remaining, but the Kovalev bout has some vibes of it. Kovalev was the biggest name, but already not the most threatening guy at that weight, while he was suggested only a short notice for big money to fight Canelo, after the hard Yarde bout. So, Canelo went the easiest way to capture a LHW strap.
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Boxers are known as “PRIZE fighters” for a reason.
From a sporting perspective, the vast majority of them really couldn’t care less whom they fight.
That said, they have to make business decisions in the interest of themselves, their families, their team and any financial stakeholders.
So they consider the “risk versus reward” ratio, which means they aren’t going to risk devaluing their own financial self-worth by engaging in a low-paid bout that is very likely to result in them suffering defeat.
This isn’t just the thought process of boxers though, because their team (i.e. trainer, manager, promoter, broadcaster etc.) will inevitably be like-minded.
Ultimately though, most fighters are only able to decline bouts. Nearly all of them are unable to hand-pick their opponents.
However, if you insist on using the term “cherry-pickers” to describe certain fighters, then this should only apply to those that are self-managed and self-promoted.
And there aren’t that many of those, are they?
From a sporting perspective, the vast majority of them really couldn’t care less whom they fight.
That said, they have to make business decisions in the interest of themselves, their families, their team and any financial stakeholders.
So they consider the “risk versus reward” ratio, which means they aren’t going to risk devaluing their own financial self-worth by engaging in a low-paid bout that is very likely to result in them suffering defeat.
This isn’t just the thought process of boxers though, because their team (i.e. trainer, manager, promoter, broadcaster etc.) will inevitably be like-minded.
Ultimately though, most fighters are only able to decline bouts. Nearly all of them are unable to hand-pick their opponents.
However, if you insist on using the term “cherry-pickers” to describe certain fighters, then this should only apply to those that are self-managed and self-promoted.
And there aren’t that many of those, are they?
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Yeh, you can't call it a chery pick, if you're fighting elite boxers, or boxers in or near their primes..margaret thatcher wrote: ↑06 Jan 2021, 01:15 it's weird, so many fans often pick the guy with the best resume as the biggest coward, etc.
they did it with floyd before canelo
Fair enough, Rocky Fielding.. Canelo wanted to fight twice that year due to his clen suspension, couldn't fight in May, so fought in September and December.
You can call Avni a cherry pick, BUT, Canelo is just keeping his belt and also still plans to fight two more times this year.
By the end of his career, Canelo will have probably fought more boxers in their prime than FMJ.
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Lol was thinking FMJ myself. Cherry picking only one of the Paul bros. when he could fight both at the same time
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True that. Great fighter, but he definitely could have fought more fighters. Same with Larry, but probably on a different level.
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Onetimeonly wrote: ↑06 Jan 2021, 17:00He's retired
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I’m a fan .. but IBF super middleweight champion Caleb Plant is doing some serious cherry picking. His next opponent is 37 year old Caleb Truex. His last opponent Feigenbutz is relatively unknown. Before that he easily defeated Subway sandwiches spokesman Mike Lee.
This is not cool when you have a guy like David Benavidez waiting patiently for a title shot
This is not cool when you have a guy like David Benavidez waiting patiently for a title shot
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Patiently waiting? Isn't he a belt holder?Las Vegas boxing guy wrote: ↑10 Jan 2021, 01:23 I’m a fan .. but IBF super middleweight champion Caleb Plant is doing some serious cherry picking. His next opponent is 37 year old Caleb Truex. His last opponent Feigenbutz is relatively unknown. Before that he easily defeated Subway sandwiches spokesman Mike Lee.
This is not cool when you have a guy like David Benavidez waiting patiently for a title shot
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No. David Benavidez is currently #1 ranked for the vacant WBC belt and #3 ranked for Canelo’s newly acquired WBA belt.
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He lost the title on the scales in his last fight
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I stand corrected, very patient.
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his goal seems to be to continually get stripped of the title and win it back
He will be a 5x wbc smw champ soon
He will be a 5x wbc smw champ soon