The boxing future of Deontay Wilder ?

ValMar · Post by **ValMar** » 09 Jan 2021, 06:34

Your prediction ?

Paci · Post by **Paci** » 09 Jan 2021, 07:12

I think he got a shot. Either steals a belt that not Fury has a hold off yet.

I do think he would Fu*k up Usyk for reasons I saw in the Chisora-fight. Wilder is faster and hits harder. Usyk gonna have to dance and move. Will he win? Maybe. He is fast and some polish he will hunt Usyk down, what I think.

Also would be a great startment either way in my book. And show relevans. Cause, I do think he would f*CK Usyk up. Since Usyk's chin haven't been tested for real-real.

margaret thatcher · Post by **margaret thatcher** » 09 Jan 2021, 07:13

Paci wrote: ↑09 Jan 2021, 07:12 I think he got a shot. Either steals a belt that not Fury has a hold off yet.

I do think he would Fu*k up Usyk for reasons I saw in the Chisora-fight. Wilder is faster and hits harder. Usyk gonna have to dance and move. Will he win? Maybe. He is fast and some polish he will hunt Usyk down, what I think.

Also would be a great startment either way in my book. And show relevans. Cause, I do think he would f*CK Usyk up. Since Usyk's chin haven't been tested for real-real.

How about those silky skills you've said he's improving all the time mate, is he still getting better? A 'polished' banger...

Doubt he ever fights usyk tbh, would have a great shot of taking his head off though no doubt losing some rounds of course before that.

Seems mentally unhinged though lol

margaret thatcher · Post by **margaret thatcher** » 09 Jan 2021, 07:18

No way he becomes undisputed

If AJ and Fury fight, the winner could end up dropping some belts, and maybe he could pick one of them up.

36 this year and coming off a pasting that mentally jarred him though, let's see how he does now

Paci · Post by **Paci** » 09 Jan 2021, 07:23

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑09 Jan 2021, 07:13
Paci wrote: ↑09 Jan 2021, 07:12 I think he got a shot. Either steals a belt that not Fury has a hold off yet.

I do think he would Fu*k up Usyk for reasons I saw in the Chisora-fight. Wilder is faster and hits harder. Usyk gonna have to dance and move. Will he win? Maybe. He is fast and some polish he will hunt Usyk down, what I think.

Also would be a great startment either way in my book. And show relevans. Cause, I do think he would f*CK Usyk up. Since Usyk's chin haven't been tested for real-real.
How about those silky skills you've said he's improving all the time mate, is he still getting better? A 'polished' banger...

Doubt he ever fights usyk tbh, would have a great shot of taking his head off though no doubt losing some rounds of course before that.

Seems mentally unhinged though lol

He will. Chisora couldn't get to him. Usyk did an Ottke aganist him and run around like a Ottke more or less. That fight was closer then people think, since Chisora was on him all night long and just couldn't catch him. Did hurt him, with the few shots he landed thou. That was my take away, Chisora is still relavant cause, well. He did make Usyk the p4p look bad. Im going by the fights and seen how Chisora don't gives a fuc* about fathertime thinks and wants.

margaret thatcher · Post by **margaret thatcher** » 09 Jan 2021, 07:26

i thought usyk won handily, del hardly touched him after the first 2 so couldnt give del much, though i agree usyk wasnt impressive

dont see usyk vs wilder happening though tbh

wilder getting a title again would more likely be him picking up a vacant wbc or something, prob in yet another fight vs an al haymon stable mate

Paci · Post by **Paci** » 09 Jan 2021, 07:28

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑09 Jan 2021, 07:26 i thought usyk won handily, del hardly touched him after the first 2 so couldnt give del much, though i agree usyk wasnt impressive

Those few shots that landed pushed the crusier around. That what I saw, you juding it like a german.

Ruthless-RKO · Post by **Ruthless-RKO** » 09 Jan 2021, 07:29

Wilder is 35 years old. Who knows how long he is gonna be around for.

margaret thatcher · Post by **margaret thatcher** » 09 Jan 2021, 07:29

lol you yourself said he couldnt get to him, scoring some great air punches? del certainly had many of those!

del really landed very little of note after the first 2, 9-3 seemed about right imo, usyk wasnt really bothered after the early rounds

again though, dont see wilder vs uzzy happening

Paci · Post by **Paci** » 09 Jan 2021, 07:30

Im going by 8-4.

margaret thatcher · Post by **margaret thatcher** » 09 Jan 2021, 07:33

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑09 Jan 2021, 07:29 Wilder is 35 years old. Who knows how long he is gonna be around for.

and coming off a loss that drove him crazy lol

let's see what he's bringing now and what type of matchups get lined up for him. the talk of the fury arbitration seems to be dead and probably he fights a softish touch next . is kownacki sellable if he beats helenius?

actually, how about otto wallin if he beats big dom?

margaret thatcher · Post by **margaret thatcher** » 09 Jan 2021, 07:39

whoever the next opponent is, i just hope they dont cheat with silly floppy gloves

Paci · Post by **Paci** » 09 Jan 2021, 07:40

However it is Deontay is gonna vent is anger on that poor bastard.

margaret thatcher · Post by **margaret thatcher** » 09 Jan 2021, 07:41

What if it's Tyson Fury

Paci · Post by **Paci** » 09 Jan 2021, 07:42

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑09 Jan 2021, 07:41 What if it's Tyson Fury

Then it gonna be legendary

bobcatbox · Post by **bobcatbox** » 09 Jan 2021, 12:48

Wilder’s power is legitimate, and neither Fury nor Joshua’s handlers want them anywhere around him until those two duke it out one-three times.

He’s also a danger for anyone climbing the ranks.

Probably winds up with a meaningless strap soon.

Then when he’s like 38 gets another title shot and loses badly.

I’m a big Wilder fan. Thought the first Fury fight was amazing. Always appreciated Wilder and felt he was avoided, but I’ve been schooled on that on this forum before so I’ll leave at this: Wilder throws bombs and let’s just appreciate that he wasn’t boring. He’ll never be champ again.

Jeff_lacy_ko · Post by **Jeff_lacy_ko** » 09 Jan 2021, 13:10

If im haymon

Once another org strips josh or fury, i get wilder into a title shot. Avoid usyk

Andy Ruiz is a good fight for wilder for a vacant strap. Joyce is a good fight for him too

ValMar · Post by **ValMar** » 09 Jan 2021, 14:03

Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑09 Jan 2021, 13:10 If im haymon

Once another org strips josh or fury, i get wilder into a title shot. Avoid usyk

Andy Ruiz is a good fight for wilder for a vacant strap. Joyce is a good fight for him too

Yes, he should avoid Usyk.
Everything would be possible against Ruiz.
Joyce (the best version) has no chance against the worst version of Wilder (excluding possibility of the injury, as in the fight against DDD).

bobcatbox · Post by **bobcatbox** » 09 Jan 2021, 15:12

ValMar wrote: ↑09 Jan 2021, 14:03
Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑09 Jan 2021, 13:10 If im haymon

Once another org strips josh or fury, i get wilder into a title shot. Avoid usyk

Andy Ruiz is a good fight for wilder for a vacant strap. Joyce is a good fight for him too
Yes, he should avoid Usyk.
Everything would be possible against Ruiz.
Joyce (the best version) has no chance against the worst version of Wilder (excluding possibility of the injury, as in the fight against DDD).

Heavy-handed Wilder avoiding a guy who is really a cruiserweight? I’m not so sure I buy that. He could never win a decision, but if he caught Usyk I think he could really hurt and KO him.

ValMar · Post by **ValMar** » 09 Jan 2021, 15:21

bobcatbox wrote: ↑09 Jan 2021, 15:12
ValMar wrote: ↑09 Jan 2021, 14:03
Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑09 Jan 2021, 13:10 If im haymon

Once another org strips josh or fury, i get wilder into a title shot. Avoid usyk

Andy Ruiz is a good fight for wilder for a vacant strap. Joyce is a good fight for him too
Yes, he should avoid Usyk.
Everything would be possible against Ruiz.
Joyce (the best version) has no chance against the worst version of Wilder (excluding possibility of the injury, as in the fight against DDD).
Heavy-handed Wilder avoiding a guy who is really a cruiserweight? I’m not so sure I buy that. He could never win a decision, but if he caught Usyk I think he could really hurt and KO him.

Yes, if he caught Usyk...............

Jeff_lacy_ko · Post by **Jeff_lacy_ko** » 09 Jan 2021, 15:37

Ruiz, joyce, are slow and stand in front of you. They can hit for sure but chasing usyk is not a good idea

DrDuke · Post by **DrDuke** » 09 Jan 2021, 16:13

Undisputed is impossible for him.

Belt is realistic.

However, he'll probably just be around, but not more.

I won't pick him against Fury, Usyk, Joyce and maybe even Joshua, Povetkin and some unproven comers like Hrgovic.

golden_labrador · Post by **golden_labrador** » 09 Jan 2021, 18:56

i hope he doesn't fight any more bums anyway. Throw him someone from the top 5. would love to see if Ruiz can actually be knocked out too. a wild fight.

He can't box but if he did tag Joshua it's over. same goes for anyone save Fury. maybe Ruiz.

at 35 he should start getting those fights sorted soon...

Perkin Warbeck · Post by **Perkin Warbeck** » 09 Jan 2021, 19:59

The long layoff, coming of a loss like that, cannot be good for him. I think he's seriously psychologically affected by it, it wouldn't have been so bad if he'd fought Fury on the first scheduled date, but he's had too much time to ruminate about it.

He's getting old too, it will be difficult for him to improve.

Ruthless-RKO · Post by **Ruthless-RKO** » 17 Jan 2021, 12:21

He may fight Charles Martin.