Boxing ... PEDs

[handsofstone]

Confirmation if there was any needed that Kovalev is a scumbag of the highest order

[brilo33]

Confirmation if there was any needed that Kovalev is a scumbag of the highest order

i think he has some nasty stuff in his closet , to be honest handsofstone thats why i rarely read any boxing news or twitter this site is about the only boxing thing on the internet i read , i dont want to know anything about boxers as i know it would make it very hard fr me to watch fights ,

[high tower 1]

I hope you’re not a Billy joe fan then !

[brilo33]

I hope you’re not a Billy joe fan then !

iam a big time bjs fan , but i dont offended easy i grew up in the real world, where everyone coats druggies untill bjs is nasty to them . and we all of a sudan love them

[polecateddy]

I wonder how many boxers are experimenting with SARMS, which probably have all the nasty side effects of steroids but can be purchased legally? But they are on banned substances lists for sport.

[margaret thatcher]

that is a shame, one of my favourite boxers puts a x on his card for me

ya he's a drug cheat like fury mate

[Wee Tommy]

Most of the smart ones are microdosing with regular blood work. SARMs can be almost undetectable and of course EPO which is the main one for boxing, is very difficult to detect if used correctly.

[brilo33]

i think they should focus on banning peds that have the most effect on things like muscle memory or that epo i think stuff like that maira shavpova took mildronate you still have to put in the hours with it why is it fair fury is 6 ft 9 if it was a horse race he would to have a handi cap or bolt in the 100m born and built to run natural cheat should go and race people his own leg size

[brilo33]

that is a shame, one of my favourite boxers puts a x on his card for me

ya he's a drug cheat like fury mate

get on you old mags ,what unlike ur fave boxer who was a drug dealer

[margaret thatcher]

that is a shame, one of my favourite boxers puts a x on his card for me

ya he's a drug cheat like fury mate

get on you old mags ,what unlike ur fave boxer who was a drug dealer

a perfect match then my man! aj can sell fury the drugs and fury can use them

[brilo33]

ya he's a drug cheat like fury mate

get on you old mags ,what unlike ur fave boxer who was a drug dealer

a perfect match then my man! aj can sell fury the drugs and fury can use them

as long as what he is selling is 100

[margaret thatcher]

[Crease]

i dont think is any sport that is clean, any one watch the gaa the hurlers these days look like athletes

I think that is because of the "New Wave" in the 90s - with the likes of Offaly and Clare winning the Championship twice and Wexford winning it in between. I think it's pretty much accepted that those three counties completely outworked the more successful counties who had (probably) the more skilful players... Of course, that's not to take away from Johnny Dooley, Jamesie O'Connor and Martin Storey, each of them were great Hurlers in their own right. And you'd struggle to find any back men better than Brian Lohan, Seanie McMahon and Brian Whelahan anywhere...

What I'm saying is - it's obvious that their has to be a minimum degree of talent to achieve the top of the mountain but the work-rate and application that the New Wave put in just surpassed what The Cats and The Rebels were doing at the time...

That's part of the reason why Brian Cody has been so dominant with The Cats - certainly the talent is there but they will never allow themselves to be outworked and with the ability that they have, they were seemingly unstoppable...

[brilo33]

i dont think is any sport that is clean, any one watch the gaa the hurlers these days look like athletes

I think that is because of the "New Wave" in the 90s - with the likes of Offaly and Clare winning the Championship twice and Wexford winning it in between. I think it's pretty much accepted that those three counties completely outworked the more successful counties who had (probably) the more skilful players... Of course, that's not to take away from Johnny Dooley, Jamesie O'Connor and Martin Storey, each of them were great Hurlers in their own right. And you'd struggle to find any back men better than Brian Lohan, Seanie McMahon and Brian Whelahan anywhere...

What I'm saying is - it's obvious that their has to be a minimum degree of talent to achieve the top of the mountain but the work-rate and application that the New Wave put in just surpassed what The Cats and The Rebels were doing at the time...

That's part of the reason why Brian Cody has been so dominant with The Cats - certainly the talent is there but they will never allow themselves to be outworked and with the ability that they have, they were seemingly unstoppable...

my da is from limerick city i grew up watching gaa in london , until magner put a lot of money in munster we limerick were going no where fast , and i will never down play or disrescpt the players skills ,but remember a good gaa football will get a thousand of pound contract in aus not just a famers game no more , i hate accusing players like this

[Counter-puncher]

i dont think is any sport that is clean, any one watch the gaa the hurlers these days look like athletes

I think that is because of the "New Wave" in the 90s - with the likes of Offaly and Clare winning the Championship twice and Wexford winning it in between. I think it's pretty much accepted that those three counties completely outworked the more successful counties who had (probably) the more skilful players... Of course, that's not to take away from Johnny Dooley, Jamesie O'Connor and Martin Storey, each of them were great Hurlers in their own right. And you'd struggle to find any back men better than Brian Lohan, Seanie McMahon and Brian Whelahan anywhere...

What I'm saying is - it's obvious that their has to be a minimum degree of talent to achieve the top of the mountain but the work-rate and application that the New Wave put in just surpassed what The Cats and The Rebels were doing at the time...

That's part of the reason why Brian Cody has been so dominant with The Cats - certainly the talent is there but they will never allow themselves to be outworked and with the ability that they have, they were seemingly unstoppable...

sounds like that Barcelona team that just so happened to cover much, much more ground per man than their rivals did.

[Glass Joe]

All your boxing heroes in the 80s,90,00s were all on probably something and probably today.

[Wee Tommy]

It is only a matter of time before a boxer dies after taking a beating by someone that fails a PED test. If that happens, what little credibility our sport has will disappear.

Absolute nonsense. You sound like an old woman.

[polecateddy]

Jean Pascal went this week, testing positive for a stack of 3 synthetic compounds. As someone said earlier in the thread, recovery is a huge part of taking PEDs. For an older, possibly out of shape boxer, being able to double your workload in the gym and recover is huge for making rapid progress. Try and do that natural and you end up sore and knackered!

[ironbeard]

I honestly believe that there should be an open professional boxing league, where anything goes PED-wise, and a clean league, where state of the art testing is mandatory to compete and consequences are a lifetime banishment to the open league.

[Foggy]

I’ve no objection to PEDs so long as the opponents I.e. Jack in this case knows and is willing to accept and fight.

[margaret thatcher]

Jean Pascal went this week, testing positive for a stack of 3 synthetic compounds. As someone said earlier in the thread, recovery is a huge part of taking PEDs. For an older, possibly out of shape boxer, being able to double your workload in the gym and recover is huge for making rapid progress. Try and do that natural and you end up sore and knackered!

pascal previously tried to discredit vada and not use them, and instead use the much less strict usada, was very suspicious

beside of boxing people who knows abt VADA?? WADA USADA everybody knows them.

[polecateddy]

I honestly believe that there should be an open professional boxing league, where anything goes PED-wise, and a clean league, where state of the art testing is mandatory to compete and consequences are a lifetime banishment to the open league.

The main reasons celebrities like The Rock aren’t open about their PED use is fear of public perception and loss of work/endorsements. Anthony Joshua isn’t going to be getting much sponsorship stuck in a PED league.

[ironbeard]

I honestly believe that there should be an open professional boxing league, where anything goes PED-wise, and a clean league, where state of the art testing is mandatory to compete and consequences are a lifetime banishment to the open league.

The main reasons celebrities like The Rock aren’t open about their PED use is fear of public perception and loss of work/endorsements. Anthony Joshua isn’t going to be getting much sponsorship stuck in a PED league.

Not for long. The market (per usual) would adjust attitudes.

[polecateddy]

Pascal of course claims ignorance of these curious substances and has fired his strength and conditioning coach. Presumably he thought he was injecting his arse with multivitamins or something wholesome.