Canelo Finally a Free Agent but Submits To Fighting Mandatory???

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Anyone else find this as disingenuous as me? How many belts has this cat tossed in the poo poo over the years to avoid these fights otherwise dictated by the WBC dope and Son?

Look, if he really fights 4 times in 2021 then he deserves a pass. No questions out of me. But to waste a Cinco De Mayo main event fighting this clown that the WBC somehow says is mandatory even though he’ll be 2 years outside of the ring by then along with his last fight being a loss, I find as rather comical.

Does Canelo only honor easy mandatory fights that he can sell the public on being “out of his hands”? GGG from years ago would like to know so I’m asking for a friend. Joke
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February ain't when Cinco De Mayo is. He's planning on Fighting Yildirim next month as I understand, and Saunders in May is what I'm hearing.

I wouldn't mind any fighter fighting 2 or 3 stay busy fights a year along with 2 big fights. It'd be better for the sport if it's biggest stars were more active.
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My bad. You’re right. Still not a big fan of Canelo using the “mandatory” verbiage to sell us on his reasoning. But you’re right and I’m stupid or extremely not smart. Pick one.
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See that EO? ^

I instantly like Caldo more than I could ever like you because he shows some humility.

Hell I do it too. We're all wrong sometimes. Except almighty E.gO of course.
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Canelo didn’t “submit” to fighting a mandatory.

Yildrim is simply a stepping stone to help Canelo unify the 168lbs titles.

Canelo faces Saunders in May and then Caleb Plant in September.

Once he’s done that, he may face GGG before making the jump to 175lbs.
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Opplyst-ine wrote: 22 Jan 2021, 22:27 Canelo didn’t “submit” to fighting a mandatory.

Yildrim is simply a stepping stone to help Canelo unify the 168lbs titles.

Canelo faces Saunders in May and then Caleb Plant in September.

Once he’s done that, he may face GGG before making the jump to 175lbs.
he's back ! just can't get enough of the boxrec bois :yay:
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margaret thatcher wrote: 22 Jan 2021, 23:30
Opplyst-ine wrote: 22 Jan 2021, 22:27 Canelo didn’t “submit” to fighting a mandatory.

Yildrim is simply a stepping stone to help Canelo unify the 168lbs titles.

Canelo faces Saunders in May and then Caleb Plant in September.

Once he’s done that, he may face GGG before making the jump to 175lbs.
he's back ! just can't get enough of the boxrec bois :yay:
Hahahahaha
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Opplyst-ine wrote: 22 Jan 2021, 22:27 Canelo didn’t “submit” to fighting a mandatory.

Yildrim is simply a stepping stone to help Canelo unify the 168lbs titles.

Canelo faces Saunders in May and then Caleb Plant in September.

Once he’s done that, he may face GGG before making the jump to 175lbs.
Hes his own boss

He elected to fight yildrim instead of GGG
Therefore hes ducking GGG
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Mandatories have to be fought and the biggest stars of the sport shouldn't be allowed to call the shots and avoid mandatory fights just because it doesn't make as much money. I agree with Gil that the sport would be better off if the guys fought more often, IMO 4x per year should be around the minimum fighters compete. It gives dates to mandatories and big fights. I am an advocate for less sparring but more fighting.
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too bad this mandatory is totally sh!t
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margaret thatcher wrote: 23 Jan 2021, 03:30 too bad this mandatory is totally sh!t
I honestly can't remember off the top of my head when a mandatory wasn't comparatively shit though. Maybe it was the last time a guy held all the belts at a weight class and the #1 challenger was within the top 2 fighters in the division?

As long as mandatories and stay busy fights don't take away the big fights we want to see then I see no problem.
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if they are sh!t , should we really support them though?

mandatories could be a great thing and are sometimes, when the fighter is actually deserving, but that's so often not the case
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margaret thatcher wrote: 23 Jan 2021, 03:35 if they are sh!t , should we really support them though?

mandatories could be a great thing and are sometimes, when the fighter is actually deserving, but that's so often not the case
I don't disagree with that. The mandatories seem to be based on whose promoter/manager has the most pull/pays the most. If mandatories were done properly it would be far better. I assume sanctioning bodies also base it on who holds regional titles etc that their body endorses?

The silver lining IMO is that one fight for a mandatory (whether deserving or not) can be a financial life changer, with so many boxers being broke and broken by the end of their careers I don't see that as such a bad thing either. There seems to be more money in boxing now for more fighters than ever, which is a good thing but it has come at the cost of the legitimacy of the sport IMO.
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p4p1 wrote: 23 Jan 2021, 03:43
margaret thatcher wrote: 23 Jan 2021, 03:35 if they are sh!t , should we really support them though?

mandatories could be a great thing and are sometimes, when the fighter is actually deserving, but that's so often not the case
I don't disagree with that. The mandatories seem to be based on whose promoter/manager has the most pull/pays the most. If mandatories were done properly it would be far better. I assume sanctioning bodies also base it on who holds regional titles etc that their body endorses?

The silver lining IMO is that one fight for a mandatory (whether deserving or not) can be a financial life changer, with so many boxers being broke and broken by the end of their careers I don't see that as such a bad thing either. There seems to be more money in boxing now for more fighters than ever, which is a good thing but it has come at the cost of the legitimacy of the sport IMO.
The financial reasoning behind your view makes even less sense for the WBC. Wouldn’t you rather reward ACTIVE fighters that have at least been inside the ring successfully within the last 2 years? I can’t find one reason why Yildirim deserves a mandatory status over these other starving fighters.

Yildirim’s last fight was also an undeserving shot to win the WBC title which he lost. Does nothing for 2 years and gets another undeserving shot handed to him by the WBC?
This one stinks of corruption AGAIN with these crooks at WBC.

Canelo is currently as high as a 20-1 favorite. Boxing doesn’t need this kind of fight for its marquee boxer or the caveman math that somehow went into the mandate. Not good at all for sport.
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It's an awful mandatory. Canelo has the power to tell the WBC to get f*cked and it's disappointing that he's not doing it.

His quest to unify the "major" belts at 168 is actually kind of hurting the division because it means BJS and Plant will sit on their belts and take the safest fights possible until the Canelo payday arrives.
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Why’s everyone bitching. He’s looking to fight 3 times this year. Everyone has one ‘crap’ fight now and then. Some boxers don’t even fight once a year.
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 24 Jan 2021, 13:58 Why’s everyone bitching. He’s looking to fight 3 times this year. Everyone has one ‘crap’ fight now and then. Some boxers don’t even fight once a year.
Hell Gary Russell only fights once a year, and I don't remember the last time he actually had a challenging opponent.
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Also, just because you’re a free agent doesn’t mean you don’t get mandatories. No one is forced to fight a mandatory if they don’t want to.
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sure canelo can have a pass cuz he fights great opposition overall

but cant blame anyone for hating the yildrim fight, it does suck smelly hairy balls

yildirim....a guy who lost his last fight, a guy who was utterly merked in 3 rounds by eubank jr, a guy with no real notable wins. ya i dont blame ppl for not liking it. rocky fielding was more qualified.
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GGG faces Szeremeta and Rolls. No criticism!

Jermall Charlo faces Hogan and Adams. No criticism!

Demetrius Andrade faces Keeler and Sulecki. No criticism!

Saunders faces Coceres and Murray. No criticism!

David Benavidez faces Angulo and Dirrell. No criticism!

Caleb Plant faces Truax and Fiegenbutz. No criticism!

And yet somehow Canelo is deemed as the worst possible specimen of humanity for fighting Yildrim immediately after facing Daniel Jacobs, Sergey Kovalev and Callum Smith?
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caldo2025 wrote: 24 Jan 2021, 12:06
p4p1 wrote: 23 Jan 2021, 03:43
margaret thatcher wrote: 23 Jan 2021, 03:35 if they are sh!t , should we really support them though?

mandatories could be a great thing and are sometimes, when the fighter is actually deserving, but that's so often not the case
I don't disagree with that. The mandatories seem to be based on whose promoter/manager has the most pull/pays the most. If mandatories were done properly it would be far better. I assume sanctioning bodies also base it on who holds regional titles etc that their body endorses?

The silver lining IMO is that one fight for a mandatory (whether deserving or not) can be a financial life changer, with so many boxers being broke and broken by the end of their careers I don't see that as such a bad thing either. There seems to be more money in boxing now for more fighters than ever, which is a good thing but it has come at the cost of the legitimacy of the sport IMO.
The financial reasoning behind your view makes even less sense for the WBC. Wouldn’t you rather reward ACTIVE fighters that have at least been inside the ring successfully within the last 2 years? I can’t find one reason why Yildirim deserves a mandatory status over these other starving fighters.

Yildirim’s last fight was also an undeserving shot to win the WBC title which he lost. Does nothing for 2 years and gets another undeserving shot handed to him by the WBC?
This one stinks of corruption AGAIN with these crooks at WBC.

Canelo is currently as high as a 20-1 favorite. Boxing doesn’t need this kind of fight for its marquee boxer or the caveman math that somehow went into the mandate. Not good at all for sport.
The mandatory in this case makes no sense at all. I don't disagree with anything you have written.
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Opplyst-ine wrote: 24 Jan 2021, 21:32 GGG faces Szeremeta and Rolls. No criticism!

Jermall Charlo faces Hogan and Adams. No criticism!

Demetrius Andrade faces Keeler and Sulecki. No criticism!

Saunders faces Coceres and Murray. No criticism!

David Benavidez faces Angulo and Dirrell. No criticism!

Caleb Plant faces Truax and Fiegenbutz. No criticism!

And yet somehow Canelo is deemed as the worst possible specimen of humanity for fighting Yildrim immediately after facing Daniel Jacobs, Sergey Kovalev and Callum Smith?
Most of them did get criticism.
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how would a poster who just joined like 2 days ago know anyway lol

hey gilly, what's the point of you banning a dude if you just let him right back straight away :lol:
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margaret thatcher wrote: 25 Jan 2021, 04:32 how would a poster who just joined like 2 days ago know anyway lol

hey gilly, what's the point of you banning a dude if you just let him right back straight away :lol:
They should ban the IP
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