the best hw canelo would beat

Jeff_lacy_ko
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Boxtune wrote: 28 Jan 2021, 03:36 It shows lot of Boxrec Members don't know much about boxing.

If you watch Ruiz fight against Roy Jones Jr, The refree was instructed to seperate them whenever Ruiz gets inside or
in a clich. Watch this fight and refree did it more than 100X times.

If Refree was natural and as they allow it in usuall heavyfight, Ruiz would have killed or permantly injured Roy jones . :salut:
Great take man

On a scale of hotness (andy ruiz to efe ajagba) how beautiful was Roys body that night?
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Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: 28 Jan 2021, 10:11
Boxtune wrote: 28 Jan 2021, 03:36 It shows lot of Boxrec Members don't know much about boxing.

If you watch Ruiz fight against Roy Jones Jr, The refree was instructed to seperate them whenever Ruiz gets inside or
in a clich. Watch this fight and refree did it more than 100X times.

If Refree was natural and as they allow it in usuall heavyfight, Ruiz would have killed or permantly injured Roy jones . :salut:
Great take man

On a scale of hotness (andy ruiz to efe ajagba) how beautiful was Roys body that night?
Ruiz gets 2/10 ...i have seen more ugly body
Roy jones get 7/10, because he was hunched
Efe Ajagba gets 9/10, pack on more muscle 10/10 :OhYes: :OhYes: :OhYes:
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Haha you are a good sport that made me laugh
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I attended the Gerald Washington vs Amir Mansour fight. Based on what I saw Canelo would have no chance against Washington. The fight was an incredible display of strength by Mansour. Washington spent the entire fight either keeping distance or pushing his weight and long arms down on Mansour, back and into the ropes. Mansour is a much smaller man. Whenever he managed to close it took all his strength to push Washington off, get a quick clean one-two in before Washington was leaning his bulk against him again. It was ugly stuff but Mansour clearly won although the judges ruled it a draw and received a spirited booing from the crowd. Afterwards Mansour gave a speech to which I was sympathetic about how the west coast is 'Haymon country'. In my mind Canelo wouldn't be allowed to box, Washington is too good at using his weight and reach to exhaust smaller opponents.

It was very similar to a fight at the same venue in Shelton, Washington state four months earlier when Dominic Wade 'earned' a SD victory over Sam Soliman. In my opinion this was also a terrible (and probably corrupt) decision by the judges that the crowd also booed heartily. It was clear that Washington and Wade were valuable investments for Haymon that couldn't afford setbacks on their way to becoming 'contenders' as mandatory challengers for belts. It's something you don't see from the stats but notice when you attend fights.

Just went to YouTube to watch a bit of the Mansour Washington fight. I could see me and my buddy standing booing at the end when the decision was announced. We were sitting right behind Washington's cousins. Hearing them talk about their family, we was initially sympathetic to Washington and I tried to find stuff to like about him. By the 3rd round we'd been disgusted by Washington's cowardly style, and Mansour's strength and courage drew us over to his side. By the 6th we were loudly booing and shouting at Washington. Right over the top of the cousins. After the fight we got a picture with Mansour, he was all alone on the far side of arena while Washington had a crowd of handlers and sympathizers around him. Mansour had a Liston type vibe, an extremely tough hard man of few words who was intimidating. He was friendly and glad for the attention from us but I could tell he was in a bad mood because of the decision. I was going to bs with him about boxing and talk shit about the judges but the words stuck in my throat.
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thereverend wrote: 28 Jan 2021, 12:10 I attended the Gerald Washington vs Amir Mansour fight. Based on what I saw Canelo would have no chance against Washington. The fight was an incredible display of strength by Mansour. Washington spent the entire fight either keeping distance or pushing his weight and long arms down on Mansour, back and into the ropes. Mansour is a much smaller man. Whenever he managed to close it took all his strength to push Washington off, get a quick clean one-two in before Washington was leaning his bulk against him again. It was ugly stuff but Mansour clearly won although the judges ruled it a draw and received a spirited booing from the crowd. Afterwards Mansour gave a speech to which I was sympathetic about how the west coast is 'Haymon country'. In my mind Canelo wouldn't be allowed to box, Washington is too good at using his weight and reach to exhaust smaller opponents.

It was very similar to a fight at the same venue in Shelton, Washington state four months earlier when Dominic Wade 'earned' a SD victory over Sam Soliman. In my opinion this was also a terrible (and probably corrupt) decision by the judges that the crowd also booed heartily. It was clear that Washington and Wade were valuable investments for Haymon that couldn't afford setbacks on their way to becoming 'contenders' as mandatory challengers for belts. It's something you don't see from the stats but notice when you attend fights.

Just went to YouTube to watch a bit of the Mansour Washington fight. I could see me and my buddy standing booing at the end when the decision was announced. We were sitting right behind Washington's cousins. Hearing them talk about their family, we was initially sympathetic to Washington and I tried to find stuff to like about him. By the 3rd round we'd been disgusted by Washington's cowardly style, and Mansour's strength and courage drew us over to his side. By the 6th we were loudly booing and shouting at Washington. Right over the top of the cousins. After the fight we got a picture with Mansour, he was all alone on the far side of arena while Washington had a crowd of handlers and sympathizers around him. Mansour had a Liston type vibe, an extremely tough hard man of few words who was intimidating. He was friendly and glad for the attention from us but I could tell he was in a bad mood because of the decision. I was going to bs with him about boxing and talk shit about the judges but the words stuck in my throat.
Washington will Muel Canelo ....
seriously who canelo has faced with power of heavyweight like Washington? GGG isn't even close
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James toney could never stand in with sam peter. Seriously he lost to montel griffin twice and got a gift against dave tiberi
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Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: 28 Jan 2021, 12:49 James toney could never stand in with sam peter. Seriously he lost to montel griffin twice and got a gift against dave tiberi
He also went toe to toe with Jirov at Cruiser before he moved to heavy. Canelo hasn't even beaten a live body above 168.
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He knocked out a world title holder and consensus top 5 lhw

Not a peak kovalev i will grant you that
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