Fixed or not? Duran vs. Moore

[AntonioMartin]

For the last couple of years Ive had a nagging doubt and want to hear your opinions:

Was the Duran-Moore bout on June 16, 1983 fixed???

I've wondered because of the fact that Duran wound up fighting Marvelous Marvin Hagler in November of that year, as you all know. That was a huge event, 1983's "Super Bowl of boxing".

What's gone through my mind is:
With Sugar Ray Leonard retired and the Hagler-Hearns bout having been cancelled due to A) an injury to Hearns right or B) a judges' decision in Los Angeles that ruled in favor of HBO to carry that bout, the year before, then Hagler-Duran was the fight to be made, but Duran had lost twice in 1982, to Benitez and Kirkland Laing..he needed two impressive wins for H-D to take place....and he did win, including the sentimental win over Moore on his birthday. Add to that the fact Moore died in an accident (or was it not an accident?) in rare circumstances in 1988 and that makes me think did something fishy go on behind the walls between Moore and other, shady characters to ensure the fight went the way the shady characters wanted it to go?

But, then I think, well, if Moore won, then surely HE would have faced Hagler in November as that would have been a big fight, right? Either that or, on the other hand, Hamsho-Benitez which took place next month would have been fixed so that boxing would have a super bowl of boxing in Hagler-Benitez instead in November...so therefore Duran-Moore was not fixed. Also, rumors abound about the Moore-Charlie Weir bout supposedly having been a fix so Weir would win and that that was why Moore "died in a shady way". According to those rumors, the WBA wanted first digs into South African boxing....

Also, ,Moore took a horrible beating...usually in fixes boxers go down after one or two good punches, if it was fixed, Moore surely wouldnt take eight rounds to go down, right?

Or, as must probably was, none of these bouts were fixed and it was this way because that's the way it all was?

What's your opinion on this???

[handsofstone]

The fight was well before my time so im not clued up on specifics going in but what I will say is that if I was to pick a fight that wasnt fixed then it would be Duran/Moore, it was a slaughter

[Tuan_Jim]

Diabolical thread topic

[AntonioMartin]

The fight was well before my time so im not clued up on specifics going in but what I will say is that if I was to pick a fight that wasnt fixed then it would be Duran/Moore, it was a slaughter

Right! That, in part, why I have doubts about my reasoning..

[elmersalsa]

Duran gave him an ass whupping! End of story!

[evrenb]

No Way..

[oogiebe]

Nothing would ever make me give this a thought.

[evrenb]

Diabolical thread topic

[orbtastic]

Yeah, Moore deliberately rubbed his face all over Duran's laces.

[DrDuke]

Ok, now it's time to find out, if Dempsey vs Willard was fixed or not.

[Tuan_Jim]

Ok, now it's time to find out, if Dempsey vs Willard was fixed or not.

Don't forget Benn/McClellan

[bwu]

Duran had 80 fights and Moore had 12 when they met. In addition, Moore came in overweight and had to sweat some off. The outcome may have been an upset but it wasn’t a shock, nor was it a fix.

[AntonioMartin]

Yeah, Moore deliberately rubbed his face all over Duran's laces.

[Wee Tommy]

For the last couple of years Ive had a nagging doubt and want to hear your opinions:

Was the Duran-Moore bout on June 16, 1983 fixed???

I've wondered because of the fact that Duran wound up fighting Marvelous Marvin Hagler in November of that year, as you all know. That was a huge event, 1983's "Super Bowl of boxing".

What's gone through my mind is:
With Sugar Ray Leonard retired and the Hagler-Hearns bout having been cancelled due to A) an injury to Hearns right or B) a judges' decision in Los Angeles that ruled in favor of HBO to carry that bout, the year before, then Hagler-Duran was the fight to be made, but Duran had lost twice in 1982, to Benitez and Kirkland Laing..he needed two impressive wins for H-D to take place....and he did win, including the sentimental win over Moore on his birthday. Add to that the fact Moore died in an accident (or was it not an accident?) in rare circumstances in 1988 and that makes me think did something fishy go on behind the walls between Moore and other, shady characters to ensure the fight went the way the shady characters wanted it to go?

But, then I think, well, if Moore won, then surely HE would have faced Hagler in November as that would have been a big fight, right? Either that or, on the other hand, Hamsho-Benitez which took place next month would have been fixed so that boxing would have a super bowl of boxing in Hagler-Benitez instead in November...so therefore Duran-Moore was not fixed. Also, rumors abound about the Moore-Charlie Weir bout supposedly having been a fix so Weir would win and that that was why Moore "died in a shady way". According to those rumors, the WBA wanted first digs into South African boxing....

Also, ,Moore took a horrible beating...usually in fixes boxers go down after one or two good punches, if it was fixed, Moore surely wouldnt take eight rounds to go down, right?

Or, as must probably was, none of these bouts were fixed and it was this way because that's the way it all was?

What's your opinion on this???

Possibly the most paranoid post in this section I have seen.

Why would you even think this? It’s ludicrous.

[AntonioMartin]

For the last couple of years Ive had a nagging doubt and want to hear your opinions:

Was the Duran-Moore bout on June 16, 1983 fixed???

I've wondered because of the fact that Duran wound up fighting Marvelous Marvin Hagler in November of that year, as you all know. That was a huge event, 1983's "Super Bowl of boxing".

What's gone through my mind is:
With Sugar Ray Leonard retired and the Hagler-Hearns bout having been cancelled due to A) an injury to Hearns right or B) a judges' decision in Los Angeles that ruled in favor of HBO to carry that bout, the year before, then Hagler-Duran was the fight to be made, but Duran had lost twice in 1982, to Benitez and Kirkland Laing..he needed two impressive wins for H-D to take place....and he did win, including the sentimental win over Moore on his birthday. Add to that the fact Moore died in an accident (or was it not an accident?) in rare circumstances in 1988 and that makes me think did something fishy go on behind the walls between Moore and other, shady characters to ensure the fight went the way the shady characters wanted it to go?

But, then I think, well, if Moore won, then surely HE would have faced Hagler in November as that would have been a big fight, right? Either that or, on the other hand, Hamsho-Benitez which took place next month would have been fixed so that boxing would have a super bowl of boxing in Hagler-Benitez instead in November...so therefore Duran-Moore was not fixed. Also, rumors abound about the Moore-Charlie Weir bout supposedly having been a fix so Weir would win and that that was why Moore "died in a shady way". According to those rumors, the WBA wanted first digs into South African boxing....

Also, ,Moore took a horrible beating...usually in fixes boxers go down after one or two good punches, if it was fixed, Moore surely wouldnt take eight rounds to go down, right?

Or, as must probably was, none of these bouts were fixed and it was this way because that's the way it all was?

What's your opinion on this???

Possibly the most paranoid post in this section I have seen.

Why would you even think this? It’s ludicrous.

Well, in boxing, you never know...I realize that most evidence points at what it probably was, a 100 percent on the line bout..but still, the fact Hagler-Duran, a mega fight, happened very next and how Moore died makes me have a bit of doubt..

[Onetimeonly]

God you're an idiot.

[BoxBuzz]

I think the only oddity about this fight, is that Duran kinda/sorta fought a dirty fight. Some thumbin' as I recall.

However....."protect yourself at all times". AND Moore was surely able to return the favor had he the capacity.

It was a legit beatdown. And Moore simply had few answers that night.

[Ambling Alp II]

So since Moore could have cheated but didn't, it was a legitimate beatdown? huh?

[AntonioMartin]

God you're an idiot.

No, just prone to being wrong.....

[f read]

You know Duran always had a way of proving the critics wrong. He did it in particular in this fight. Not long removed from the Kirkland Lang defeat he really annihilated Davey Moore. Wow. He also gave Hagler a tough time. I recall Sugar Ray Leonard did the commentary on Hagler-Duran and Duran told SRL after the fight You box him you beat him. Leonard took that advice to heart several years later defeating the Marvelous One. So back to Duran. Yes defeating Leonard in the first fight was a big victory for him. The Iran Barkley fight he was 37 years of age and defeated an enormous sized middleweight who actually years later fought at heavyweight. I am skeptical that this fight was fixed or rigged. Thanks for the post and the comments.

[adislav123]

both did a hell of a job to make that fix look 100% legit.

moore especially, getting back up on wobbly legs from the knockdown, already grotesquely disfigured, bleeding like shit, eyes shut swollen... amazing performance.

[Onetimeonly]

No fights with immense punishment are fixed among the fighters. This thread is such a joke. fornicate this site.

[gilgamesh]

Definitely not, and slap you in the face obviously not.

[gilgamesh]

God you're an idiot.

Yeah this is an insane post topic.

[Tuan_Jim]

It's one of the worst I've ever seen.