Whose reputation has been ruined the most by peds?

[halfamill]

Baseball has guys like Bonds and Mcguire. Cycling has Armstrong. What about boxing?

[DrDuke]

Fat Baby Miller, I believe. Although I don't give much sh!t. All of them are roided.

[gilgamesh]

In Boxing I'd say Jarrell Miller.

He basically lost out on the chance to even build his reputation much. I can't think of many real major Superstars who tested positive and didn't eventually come back from it, but Jarrell it doesn't seem ever will.

[oogiebe]

Baseball has guys like Bonds and Mcguire. Cycling has Armstrong. What about boxing?

Miller in boxing so far, just because the idiot keeps getting caught. Dumbass that he is.

[margaret thatcher]

boxing fans dont really care much about peds themselves, it's more like, who is their guy?

on another forum there was one dude who constantly bashed pov for peds while being an ortiz fan boi, vice versa

and dudes who worship fury will bash other fighters for ped use but say nothing about tgk's use

and a lot of the time the outrage is only very temporary, and not long after ppl wont even care



id agree on miller right now because his constant use makes it easier to keep bashing him, plus he lost a hug aj payday

[Boxtune]

Tyson Fury took the banned anabolic steroid nandrolone for couple of years up to post klitchko fight

[Monzon83]

He was a great fighter but seriously does anyone think Holyfied could have done what he did naturally?

By the time he fought Tyson in 96 he was like the fuckin Terminator. You could have hit him with a sledgehammer and he'd have just bounced back up and kept coming. There'll always be a question mark over him.

[chucktaylor]

Povetkin has had a couple bad tests so I'd say that has tarnished his rep, but I'm still a fan. margaret thatcher has a good point.

Guillermo Jones never came back after beating Lebedev in one of the best cruiserweight fights ever, at least partially because he had bad tests twice afterward. He showed that Holyfield-esque punch resistance, taking flush bombs off Lebedev and not flinching.

[squiggy]

Yeah, not a lot of doubt about Holyfield.

[margaret thatcher]

evan fields is another one of those guys most ppl dont care about his use, they'll slag someone like miller or pov for it but worship him. it's not about the principle of drug use for most ppl, in fact almost none

[Jeff_lacy_ko]

Holyfield, mosley rjj, vitali all 1st ballot hof

Canelo top draw

2 guys have paid the price

1 is big baby

2 is tarver. He had that sweet showtime gig and was looking at a hw title shot

[Jeff_lacy_ko]

evan fields is another one of those guys most ppl dont care about his use, they'll slag someone like miller or pov for it but worship him. it's not about the principle of drug use for most ppl, in fact almost none

Same with holyfields dirty tactics . Hes a soft spoken nice guy so people look the other way

[lazboy]

He was a great fighter but seriously does anyone think Holyfied could have done what he did naturally?

By the time he fought Tyson in 96 he was like the fuckin Terminator. You could have hit him with a sledgehammer and he'd have just bounced back up and kept coming. There'll always be a question mark over him.

Not to jump on the Evanfields defence bandwagon but I would be confident Tyson, a coke fiend at that time in his career, would have been on the same cocktail of peds.

[Boxing Prospect]

Easy to say Miller but let's be honest, what reputation? It's not like he achieved anything in the sport. He never had a big win scratched off due to drugs. He kept pissing hot but still couldn't get a big win.

Toney got a huge win scratched from his record and denied a title at Heavyweight, his reputation is still huge, but that missing HW title hurts imo.

RJJ still gets castigated for his failed test, though his late career nonsense hurt his reputation.

[gregregegg]

Miller has had it worst that i can think off. Few factors in it i think, 1) It was an AJ fight so it was super high publicity, 2)he tested positive to the entire Pharmacy, 3) there was very little doubt, the EPO fitted so well for a 300lb guy that can go high volume for 12 rounds.

Most boxers/athletes have a story that creates some doubt, and with just a little bit of doubt its hard to hold a full grudge, Tainted suplements, Wild boar, Street meat ect. people rarely believe them, but still most have that tiny bit of doubt in there mind that makes forgiving people much easier. you can see it works pretty clearly considering most people Hate drug cheats, yet canelo, Fury, Whyte are all still huge draws.

Rule 1A of being an athlete, if you get caught cheating, blaim it on something and never admit it...

[Finkel]

He was a great fighter but seriously does anyone think Holyfied could have done what he did naturally?

By the time he fought Tyson in 96 he was like the fuckin Terminator. You could have hit him with a sledgehammer and he'd have just bounced back up and kept coming. There'll always be a question mark over him.

Not to jump on the Evanfields defence bandwagon but I would be confident Tyson, a coke fiend at that time in his career, would have been on the same cocktail of peds.

Don't think you can necessarily make that link. There are athletes who will happily take recreational drugs, but would steer clear of performance enhancers.

[lazboy]

He was a great fighter but seriously does anyone think Holyfied could have done what he did naturally?

By the time he fought Tyson in 96 he was like the fuckin Terminator. You could have hit him with a sledgehammer and he'd have just bounced back up and kept coming. There'll always be a question mark over him.

Not to jump on the Evanfields defence bandwagon but I would be confident Tyson, a coke fiend at that time in his career, would have been on the same cocktail of peds.

Don't think you can necessarily make that link. There are athletes who will happily take recreational drugs, but would steer clear of performance enhancers.

Understand your point but I would make the link with a Tyson in that frame of mind and at that stage in his career. If you’ve read his autobio he was quite unbalanced then...to say the least and taking peds to shortcut training he was neglecting seems to be something he might have done.

[Finkel]

Not to jump on the Evanfields defence bandwagon but I would be confident Tyson, a coke fiend at that time in his career, would have been on the same cocktail of peds.

Don't think you can necessarily make that link. There are athletes who will happily take recreational drugs, but would steer clear of performance enhancers.

Understand your point but I would make the link with a Tyson in that frame of mind and at that stage in his career. If you’ve read his autobio he was quite unbalanced then...to say the least and taking peds to shortcut training he was neglecting seems to be something he might have done.

Fair point.

[cormack]

recently its Miller that stands out , and what clown for doing it when he had a mega payday vs AJ ,he would have been stopped for sure but would now have some $$$$ .

Holyfield got away with it for whatever reason back in the day .

Canelo likes certain types of meats that can contain extras as do the Furys , seems like there is always a way to dodge the bullet .

I think its very likely Mike Tyson was roided to the hilt and again somehow got away with it , he even admitted using a false cock to piss with !

[Thomastearns]

recently its Miller that stands out , and what clown for doing it when he had a mega payday vs AJ ,he would have been stopped for sure but would now have some $$$$ .

Holyfield got away with it for whatever reason back in the day .

Canelo likes certain types of meats that can contain extras as do the Furys , seems like there is always a way to dodge the bullet .

I think its very likely Mike Tyson was roided to the hilt and again somehow got away with it , he even admitted using a false cock to piss with !

Cocaine use. He's quite candid about it.

If Mike Tyson had ever used PEDs he'd be banned from boxing in the same way as the Eiger was once for climbing.

On the grounds of being too dangerous.

I don't think there's ever been a boxer as open and confessional about his behaviour as Mike Tyson.

His autobiography is a must read for any fan of boxing. [The UK version had certain sections omitted due to legal reasons].

If any boxer could ever own up to doing performance enhancing drugs - none of them do - it would be Mike Tyson.

Grossly unfair to drag him into this upon mere conjecture when there's so much circumstantial evidence stacked up against the likes of Mayweather, Marquez, and Holyfield etc.

[cormack]

recently its Miller that stands out , and what clown for doing it when he had a mega payday vs AJ ,he would have been stopped for sure but would now have some $$$$ .

Holyfield got away with it for whatever reason back in the day .

Canelo likes certain types of meats that can contain extras as do the Furys , seems like there is always a way to dodge the bullet .

I think its very likely Mike Tyson was roided to the hilt and again somehow got away with it , he even admitted using a false cock to piss with !

Cocaine use. He's quite candid about it.

If Mike Tyson had ever used PEDs he'd be banned from boxing in the same way as the Eiger was once for climbing.

On the grounds of being too dangerous.

I don't think there's ever been a boxer as open and confessional about his behaviour as Mike Tyson.

His autobiography is a must read for any fan of boxing. [The UK version had certain sections omitted due to legal reasons].

If any boxer could ever own up to doing performance enhancing drugs - none of them do - it would be Mike Tyson.

Grossly unfair to drag him into this upon mere conjecture when there's so much circumstantial evidence stacked up against the likes of Mayweather, Marquez, and Holyfield etc.

fair or not its my point of view that it would not be a shock at all if Mike Tyson had been on peds , at one point in his career he thought he could do whatever he wanted including rape .
All we really have is conjecture , and anecdotal media stories unless they fail a test .

[Jeff_lacy_ko]

You are in superfan denial if you think your favorite boxer didnt use PEDs. Ali included

[brilo33]

Baseball has guys like Bonds and Mcguire. Cycling has Armstrong. What about boxing?

what you chatting about i know big mac because of peds him and sammy sosa iam a londoner not a great fondess for baseball but him that year with sosa 49 56 homers cant remember , only people ruined by peds is amutures coming through to the boxing pro game i think

[Jeff_lacy_ko]

I love baseball being so fussy about ped usage and contact sports slapping on the wrist. You gotta love it.

[Cyclops]

recently its Miller that stands out , and what clown for doing it when he had a mega payday vs AJ ,he would have been stopped for sure but would now have some $$$$ .

Holyfield got away with it for whatever reason back in the day .

Canelo likes certain types of meats that can contain extras as do the Furys , seems like there is always a way to dodge the bullet .

I think its very likely Mike Tyson was roided to the hilt and again somehow got away with it , he even admitted using a false cock to piss with !

Cocaine use. He's quite candid about it.

If Mike Tyson had ever used PEDs he'd be banned from boxing in the same way as the Eiger was once for climbing.

On the grounds of being too dangerous.

I don't think there's ever been a boxer as open and confessional about his behaviour as Mike Tyson.

His autobiography is a must read for any fan of boxing. [The UK version had certain sections omitted due to legal reasons].

If any boxer could ever own up to doing performance enhancing drugs - none of them do - it would be Mike Tyson.

Grossly unfair to drag him into this upon mere conjecture when there's so much circumstantial evidence stacked up against the likes of Mayweather, Marquez, and Holyfield etc.

Sorry but Mike was definitely on steroids at one point or another during his career. It was the 80's. It was all cocaine, steroids and blow jobs.

Well, so I've been told. All I remember about the 80's was having a shell suit and being really jealous of the rich kids who had Soda Streams. It was sh*t.