Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua - 2020 OLD thread

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Not sure if this has been mentioned already but Talksport say that the rumour is that the PPV will be £40.

Thats expected, although I won't pay that much. There's no way they'd make the money rumoured if there wasn't a huge price hike. I hope it's not very successful and they don't try it again in the future.

Eddie said a while back the price will begin with a 2. It will sell, hugely.

Yeh, so at most £29.99.. Arum reckon's 2 million buys in the UK.

TBH, a big chunk of the boxers purses will come from the site fee..

2m buys at £29.99 is £60m

[Oiky]

Yeah the price will be in the high 20s

[joshj909]

Thats expected, although I won't pay that much. There's no way they'd make the money rumoured if there wasn't a huge price hike. I hope it's not very successful and they don't try it again in the future.

Eddie said a while back the price will begin with a 2. It will sell, hugely.

Yeh, so at most £29.99.. Arum reckon's 2 million buys in the UK.

TBH, a big chunk of the boxers purses will come from the site fee..

2m buys at £29.99 is £60m

Eddie Hearn has claimed they could be making £100m each which would require the site fee and tickets to cover £140m. Unless that's for the two fights, which would make it £70m per fight which is also a stretch.

I do think that there should be more than the 1.5m viewers that AJ has brought in before, maybe 2-2.5m, but I don't know much of a factor no pubs could play.

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Eddie said a while back the price will begin with a 2. It will sell, hugely.

Yeh, so at most £29.99.. Arum reckon's 2 million buys in the UK.

TBH, a big chunk of the boxers purses will come from the site fee..

2m buys at £29.99 is £60m

Eddie Hearn has claimed they could be making £100m each which would require the site fee and tickets to cover £140m. Unless that's for the two fights, which would make it £70m per fight which is also a stretch.

I do think that there should be more than the 1.5m viewers that AJ has brought in before, maybe 2-2.5m, but I don't know much of a factor no pubs could play.

Then you have US TV rights? that'll bring in money. and around the world. Mostly DAZN?

[mickey1975]

Rights, sponsorship, site fee, absolutely off the scale.

[maverick23]

Yeh, so at most £29.99.. Arum reckon's 2 million buys in the UK.

TBH, a big chunk of the boxers purses will come from the site fee..

2m buys at £29.99 is £60m

Eddie Hearn has claimed they could be making £100m each which would require the site fee and tickets to cover £140m. Unless that's for the two fights, which would make it £70m per fight which is also a stretch.

I do think that there should be more than the 1.5m viewers that AJ has brought in before, maybe 2-2.5m, but I don't know much of a factor no pubs could play.

Then you have US TV rights? that'll bring in money. and around the world. Mostly DAZN?

The 100m each may have been dollars which isn’t inconceivable based on the potential income.

Will be PPv over here (2.2m @ £30 so $75m ex. VAT).

Will likely be PPV in the US across ESPN and DAZN’s likely PPV platform so 0.6m @ $80 so $48m.

Plus either PPVs or DAZN streaming the fight worldwide, plus potential crowd money from Saudi, a massive site fee, big sponsorship and you can comfortably see them getting the revenue together to pay both $100m or even in £.

[CaptainSpacerod]

This is a fight for the ages. I wouldn't begrudge paying £50 for it, that still represents excellent value for money in comparison to the price charged for other PPV fights.

If it costs £20 to watch euro level Whyte lumbering around against the faded remnants of Povetkin or to watch gatekeeper Chisora charge forward like an ageing bull in a china shop trying to get to a cruiserweight having only his 2nd fight as a heavy then £50 to watch the best two guys in the world in a unification fight for all the heavyweight belts between two hugely charismatic Brits in a once in a lifetime showdown is a bargain.

I'd only resent paying that much if we had to listen to Sky's rubbish punditry and commentary. How will it work - if TV rights are shared will BT and Sky both have their own teams presenting ? No matter what Ronald Mac, has to do the post fight interviews in the ring

[keirw]

This is a fight for the ages. I wouldn't begrudge paying £50 for it, that still represents excellent value for money in comparison to the price charged for other PPV fights.

If it costs £20 to watch euro level Whyte lumbering around against the faded remnants of Povetkin or to watch gatekeeper Chisora charge forward like an ageing bull in a china shop trying to get to a cruiserweight having only his 2nd fight as a heavy then £50 to watch the best two guys in the world in a unification fight for all the heavyweight belts between two hugely charismatic Brits in a once in a lifetime showdown is a bargain.

I'd only resent paying that much if we had to listen to Sky's rubbish punditry and commentary. How will it work - if TV rights are shared will BT and Sky both have their own teams presenting ? No matter what Ronald Mac, has to do the post fight interviews in the ring

Hopefully he has already started reading his thesaurus ready.
It will also be nice to see an interviewer who isn't completely towered over by both fighters.

[margaret thatcher]

fabulous fistery from fury

[CaptainSpacerod]

This is a fight for the ages. I wouldn't begrudge paying £50 for it, that still represents excellent value for money in comparison to the price charged for other PPV fights.

If it costs £20 to watch euro level Whyte lumbering around against the faded remnants of Povetkin or to watch gatekeeper Chisora charge forward like an ageing bull in a china shop trying to get to a cruiserweight having only his 2nd fight as a heavy then £50 to watch the best two guys in the world in a unification fight for all the heavyweight belts between two hugely charismatic Brits in a once in a lifetime showdown is a bargain.

I'd only resent paying that much if we had to listen to Sky's rubbish punditry and commentary. How will it work - if TV rights are shared will BT and Sky both have their own teams presenting ? No matter what Ronald Mac, has to do the post fight interviews in the ring

Hopefully he has already started reading his thesaurus ready.
It will also be nice to see an interviewer who isn't completely towered over by both fighters.

He had that totally memorised years ago ! I think he did the interviews after Fury beat Wlad - he was the tallest man in the ring.

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Possible Locations

"Yeah, loads. We've had massive offers from the Middle East," the promoter said when asked about the possible location for the fight.

"We're talking to Qatar, we're talking to Saudi Arabia, Abu Dhabi, we're talking to Singapore, we're talking to China, we're talking to America.

"A couple of wildcards in there as well. But first of all I want to make sure the deal is in place then we can go out there and talk to these people sensibly and with confidence this fight is happening, and like I said we're a couple of weeks away."

[mickey1975]

Eddie has been saying a couple of weeks for about 6.... Tyson didn’t get carried away when asked. At all.

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They’re still discussing whether the fight will be officially #FuryJoshua or #JoshuaFury.

“Still to be discussed,” Hearn said. “I'm looking forward to that one. I suppose you have whose name is first, who goes to the ring first, who has the first changing room, who will weigh in first.

“Jokes aside, that's not something that will necessarily be solved in one phone call. But it will be a discussion point over the next week or so.”

[mickey1975]

Why does Eddie keep saying AJ is a huge global star? Where? Nigeria?

[Boxerbeetle]

They’re still discussing whether the fight will be officially #FuryJoshua or #JoshuaFury.

“Still to be discussed,” Hearn said. “I'm looking forward to that one. I suppose you have whose name is first, who goes to the ring first, who has the first changing room, who will weigh in first.

“Jokes aside, that's not something that will necessarily be solved in one phone call. But it will be a discussion point over the next week or so.”

I find that sort of stuff embarrassing. They should just flip a coin for those things, it’s not worth anyone’s time or effort negotiating them.

[DrDuke]

It's gotta be Fury-Joshua, because Fury has more arguments to be seen as the man of the division. There had initially been three candidates for this position and it was Fury, who eliminated a one of them, while Joshua was struggling with the fat destroyer of tacos. Moreover, Fury is promoted in both the UK and the US.

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They’re still discussing whether the fight will be officially #FuryJoshua or #JoshuaFury.

“Still to be discussed,” Hearn said. “I'm looking forward to that one. I suppose you have whose name is first, who goes to the ring first, who has the first changing room, who will weigh in first.

“Jokes aside, that's not something that will necessarily be solved in one phone call. But it will be a discussion point over the next week or so.”

I find that sort of stuff embarrassing. They should just flip a coin for those things, it’s not worth anyone’s time or effort negotiating them.

Yeh, Who ever walks out first, can get announced last. That's simple.

Whoever weighs in second can have the first bedroom. There are ways around it.

with the name thing. Sky and DAZN can have Joshua-Fury and BT and ESPN can have Fury-Joshua.

There you go.

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Arum: Fury-Joshua is Biggest Heavyweight Fight Since Ali-Frazier 1

Top Rank's CEO Bob Arum, who co-promotes WBC heavyweight champion Tyson Fury, views the unification with Anthony Joshua as the biggest heavyweight fight since Muhammad Ali collided with Joe Frazier for the first time in March of 1971.

Arum is negotiating with Matchroom's Eddie Hearn, who promotes IBF, IBO, WBA, WBO world champion Joshua.

The veteran promoter believes the Fury-Joshua showdown will capture the imagination of the public - in a manner similar to the first Ali-Frazier encounter.

"The closest heavyweight fight it compares to would be the first Ali-Frazer fight which was in March of 1971. The whole world stopped. Why? Because Ali couldn't fight because of the draft situation, couldn't fight for three and a half years but he was still undefeated," Arum told The Sun.

"He captured everyone's imagination, unfortunately we didn't have the technology we have now. We didn't have satellites domestically like we do now to get the signal, we had to use telephone company longlines and we were limited to the number of people who could watch it.

"There was no pay-per-view at the time, but still it was by far the biggest fight that I had ever experienced then and, looking back on it, now. And I really think Fury-Joshua will begin to approach that first Ali-Frazer fight."

Both sides are hoping to reach an agreement before the end of the month.

Unless something unexpected takes place, Arum is very confident that a deal will get finalized.

"Well, lightning could hit one of the fighters and incapacitate them and it doesn't happen. But otherwise, I'm absolutely certain it will happen. But, remember fights like these, particularly this fight with Fury and Joshua, big financial ventures and anything of this magnitude, the lawyers are going to do good careful work," Arum said.

"Matchroom sent us their draft of the agreement, then I set up a Zoom call with Frank and his lawyer Stephen Heath, with Tyson's lawyer Robert Davis, with my lawyer and myself. We went over the draft, made a whole list of changes, marked up - which we call redline - sent it back to them, they then accepted most of them, maybe some additional changes and it goes back.

"But this is the normal process. The issues between the two camps continue to get narrowed down until there's a meeting of the minds and the deal's ready to be signed. Not at that stage yet but I'm confident we will be."

[JC]

I was actually thinking about this the other day.

'Fury vs Joshua is the biggest HW fight since...'

I remember Lewis Holyfield being absolutely massive 1997.

I was too young for Tyson vs Spinks but understand it was huge (despite ending up being a walk over)

Then you have events like Lewis vs Tyson, which were kind of irrelevant in retrospect but had crazy amounts of hype at the time.

You can certainly make an argument it's the biggest since Ali/Frazier FOC.

[Coco]

I was actually thinking about this the other day.

'Fury vs Joshua is the biggest HW fight since...'

I remember Lewis Holyfield being absolutely massive 1997.

I was too young for Tyson vs Spinks but understand it was huge (despite ending up being a walk over)

Then you have events like Lewis vs Tyson, which were kind of irrelevant in retrospect but had crazy amounts of hype at the time.

You can certainly make an argument it's the biggest since Ali/Frazier FOC.

Lewis v Tyson was big too as was Tyson v Holyfield, Bowe v Holyfield was also big, and don't forget Bruno v Lewis.
However I think Fury v AJ is bigger. I suppose it will be less so in the States

[DrDuke]

Fury-Joshua is probably the biggest since Frazier-Ali indeed.

Lewis-Tyson was too late, Tyson was shot.

Lewis-Holyfield was big, but didn't live up to its status and had disappointing judging controversy. Also, it was the fight for the best HW, who still was destined to be not the most popular one, as Tyson remained the least thing.

Tyson-Holmes and Tyson-Spinks wasn't near the mentioned ones, Tyson was clearly favored.

Fury and Joshua are the two best and most popular HWs today, both in prime. Plus the lack of big fights recently makes it more needed.

[Coco]

Fury-Joshua is probably the biggest since Frazier-Ali indeed.

Lewis-Tyson was too late, Tyson was shot.

Lewis-Holyfield was big, but didn't live up to its status and had disappointing judging controversy. Also, it was the fight for the best HW, who still was destined to be not the most popular one, as Tyson remained the least thing.

Tyson-Holmes and Tyson-Spinks wasn't near the mentioned ones, Tyson was clearly favored.

Fury and Joshua are the two best and most popular HWs today, both in prime. Plus the lack of big fights recently makes it more needed.

I wasn't talking about 50-50 fights though, I was just talking about the big fighters which garnered the most interest.
In reality against Joshua Fury will be a heavy favourite.

[Oiky]

fury vs aj is going to be a massive fight,and rightfully so

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Las Vegas back in the frame

Revealing the possibilities, Hearn named Nevada as his preferred choice for a summer heavyweight showdown.

“A lot of the dates now do depend on the Covid situation because originally we wanted it to happen in May, but now we feel like June is a safer option,” Hearn told The Independent.

“Different countries are at different stages. Some countries are in lockdown. Some are open.

“Saudi Arabia is in lockdown, but they are staging major events behind closed doors. I believe they plan to open up in March, but you don’t know what’s going to happen.

“Las Vegas will be opening back up in May. It would be a massive opportunity for them to get the biggest fight in boxing.

“Singapore, Qatar, Abu-Dhabi, Dubai. All these countries want to stage this fight.

“I wouldn’t mind a trip to Vegas in June. I think it would be an ideal home for the fight. But we can’t ignore the seismic offers from other areas of the world.

“All I can say is we’re finalizing the minor details, and nothing major that we see is going to stop this fight from happening.

“There’s no danger that this isn’t the next fight. I don’t know what we’d do if we don’t fight Tyson Fury. Everyone is so focused to get this over the line,” he added.

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Hearn: After First Fury-Joshua Fight, WBO Title Will Have To Be Vacated

Eddie Hearn, promoter for IBF, IBO, WBO, WBA heavyweight champion Anthony Joshua, is in deep negotiations to finalize a full division unification with WBC world champion Tyson Fury.

The Fury-Joshua agreement would involve a two-fight series - with both bouts to take place in 2021.

In the background, there are ongoing discussions to finalize a heavyweight clash between Oleksandr Usyk and Joe Joyce - for the WBO's interim-heavyweight title.

Pursuant to a WBO order, the winner of Fury-Joshua would have to face the victor of Usyk-Joyce.

But that is unlikely to happen, as Fury-Joshua would involve an immediate rematch regardless of the outcome.

Because of that fact, the WBO belt will likely become vacant in the aftermath of the first encounter - with the Usyk-Joyce winner being automatically elevated to the status of full champion.

"Ultimately, the WBO will have to be vacated after the first fight," Hearn said The Express.

"If they're contracted to have two fights and the winner has got to fight the winner of Usyk vs Joyce, they're just not going to do it. It's fine because we get the undisputed first. All I want is the winner of this fight to be undisputed.

"What happens after that doesn't matter, it's just a rematch and another great fight. But this is what it's all about, finding out who the best is."

After both bouts have been completed, the winner of the Fury-Joshua series will then potentially face Usyk or Joyce in a unification.

"Once you win those two fights, do you want to fight Usyk, do you want to fight Joe Joyce? You've got to really, they're the contenders," says Hearn.

"This is everything. It doesn't get any bigger than this. Fury might retire after two fights but AJ is looking at five years. This will just be part of his legacy."