Does Terence Crawford deserve to be a top-ten pound-for-pounder?

[Enlightened-One]

The legitimacy of Crawford’s claims to being the very best fighter on the planet (on a pound-for-pound basis) are dwindling with each passing month.

He hasn’t achieved anything particularly noteworthy since his twenties and he’ll be 34 years of age by the time his contract with ESPN expires.

Crawford’s next outing will likely be scheduled around the fourth anniversary of his 140lbs title unification victory over Julius Indongo.

And does anybody genuinely believe Crawford will be facing an opponent far superior than the likes of Brook, Kavaliauskas, Khan & Benavidez Jr? The answer is clearly “NO!”

So in my mind, regardless of Crawford’s talent, which isn't up for debate, he no longer deserves to be classed amongst the top-ten pound-for-pounders, because he doesn't participate in any meaningful bouts.

Time doesn't stand still! He can't keep dining off his sporting accomplishments up until 2017.

Crawford has become irrelevant to the point he's now reliant on persistently name-dropping Pacquiao and Spence Jr. in order to gain media headlines.

For the time being though, ESPN will likely continue dishonestly claiming he’s the very best pound-for-pound fighter on the planet, at least until his contract with them expires in October.

Thoughts?

[Counter-puncher]

[DrDuke]

What's for sure is the fact, that Crawford is #2 in the list of EO's butthurt causes. Golovkin is #1 there.

[TheRealz]

Yeah definitely but I don't believe he deserves to be in the top 2 like the LDBC claim lol. No way has he done more than Alvarez and Usyk

[Ruthless-RKO]

[emallini]

Of course he does

[Jaywheel]

Yes. You haven't named 10 fighters more deserving. Your post is not backed up by facts. You blow. I win.

[Jeff_lacy_ko]

My top 10 goes

1. Canelo
2. Spence
3. Porter
4. Pacquiao
5. Thurman
6. Danny Garcia
7. Ugas
8. Tank davis
9. Canelo fighting blindfolded
10. Leo santa cruz

So now he doesnt deserve it. Pbc fighters fight the best only

[gilgamesh]

He's definitely a Top 10 Pound for Pounder. I think people are full of sh*t when they try to claim him as #1, as I think he's closer to just outside of the Top 5 than he is #1, but he'd have to be Top 10.

He was higher at one point, but he just keeps treading water ,and not advancing his career at all. It's been years since he's had a meaningful opponent who actually posed him a threat.

That being said there aren't 10 boxers currently in the sport who are better or more accomplished than him.

[margaret thatcher]

need to step ya game up bruh

[H8Usernames]

My top 10 goes

1. Canelo
2. Spence
3. Porter
4. Pacquiao
5. Thurman
6. Danny Garcia
7. Ugas
8. Tank davis
9. Canelo fighting blindfolded
10. Leo santa cruz

So now he doesnt deserve it. Pbc fighters fight the best only

What a disgraceful list.

[Jeff_lacy_ko]

My top 10 goes

1. Canelo
2. Spence
3. Porter
4. Pacquiao
5. Thurman
6. Danny Garcia
7. Ugas
8. Tank davis
9. Canelo fighting blindfolded
10. Leo santa cruz

So now he doesnt deserve it. Pbc fighters fight the best only

What a disgraceful list.

Youd have blindfold canelo higher?

[margaret thatcher]

Surely Canelo's left testicle makes the cut?

[Enlightened-One]

That being said there aren't 10 boxers currently in the sport who are better or more accomplished than him.

Are there 10 boxers that have accomplished more than Crawford has within the last 3½ years?

Don’t get me wrong, Crawford’s talent isn't up for debate. He’s clearly a very good fighter.

However, as the old adage goes…

"Talent" is useless unless it’s proven…. And "potential" is useless unless it’s fulfilled!”

And like you said before, Crawford is treading water. Bud is continuously engaging in meaningless bouts against subpar opposition.

Therefore, is there an expiry date that’ll compel you to lose your patience with him, if he keeps facing underwhelming opposition?

Crawford isn’t going to engage in a marquee bout before his contract expires with Top Rank in October, which means that more than four years would have transpired since his 140lbs title unification victory over Julius Indongo.

Are you going to keep giving him the benefit of the doubt? Five years, six years, seven years, indefinitely?

[margaret thatcher]

That being said there aren't 10 boxers currently in the sport who are better or more accomplished than him.

Are there 10 boxers that have accomplished more than Crawford has within the last 3½ years?

Don’t get me wrong, Crawford’s talent isn't up for debate. He’s clearly a very good fighter.

However, as the old adage goes…

"Talent" is useless unless it’s proven…. And "potential" is useless unless it’s fulfilled!”

And like you said before, Crawford is treading water. Bud is continuously engaging in meaningless bouts against subpar opposition.

Therefore, is there an expiry date that’ll compel you to lose your patience with him, if he keeps facing underwhelming opposition?

Crawford isn’t going to engage in a marquee bout before his contract expires with Top Rank expires in October, which means that more than four years would have transpired since his 140lbs title unification victory over Julius Indongo.

Are you going to keep giving him the benefit of the doubt? Five years, six years, seven years, indefinitely?

What's your top 10 p4p look like my man?

[Enlightened-One]

That being said there aren't 10 boxers currently in the sport who are better or more accomplished than him.

Are there 10 boxers that have accomplished more than Crawford has within the last 3½ years?

Don’t get me wrong, Crawford’s talent isn't up for debate. He’s clearly a very good fighter.

However, as the old adage goes…

"Talent" is useless unless it’s proven…. And "potential" is useless unless it’s fulfilled!”

And like you said before, Crawford is treading water. Bud is continuously engaging in meaningless bouts against subpar opposition.

Therefore, is there an expiry date that’ll compel you to lose your patience with him, if he keeps facing underwhelming opposition?

Crawford isn’t going to engage in a marquee bout before his contract expires with Top Rank expires in October, which means that more than four years would have transpired since his 140lbs title unification victory over Julius Indongo.

Are you going to keep giving him the benefit of the doubt? Five years, six years, seven years, indefinitely?

What's your top 10 p4p look like my man?

1. Saul Alvarez
2. Naoya Inoue
3. Errol Spence Jr.
4. Oleksandr Usyk
5. Teofimo Lopez
6. Vasiliy Lomachenko
7. Juan Francisco Estrada
8. Tyson Fury
9. Kazuto Ioka
10. Josh Taylor

Honourable mentions: Gervonta Davis, Jermell Charlo and Shakur Stevenson.

I’m not overly-passionate about my ratings from seventh to tenth place, because a decent argument can be made to fill those slots with seven or eight names.

When I look at my personal current pound-for-pound ratings, I’m compelled to only consider those that have recently scored a notable victory... and it's only then that I'll consider the quality of their resume, accomplishments etc.

Time doesn't stand still. And real-world actions mean far more to me than faith or reputation alone.

[DrDuke]

[
1. Saul Alvarez
2. Naoya Inoue
3. Errol Spence Jr.
4. Oleksandr Usyk
5. Teofimo Lopez
6. Vasiliy Lomachenko
7. Juan Francisco Estrada
8. Tyson Fury
9. Kazuto Ioka
10. Josh Taylor

Honourable mentions: Gervonta Davis, Jermell Charlo and Shakur Stevenson.

In your opinion, do Davis, Jermell and Stevenson have more claim for the p4p ranking than Crawford?

[apollo creed]

[H8Usernames]

My top 10 goes

1. Canelo
2. Spence
3. Porter
4. Pacquiao
5. Thurman
6. Danny Garcia
7. Ugas
8. Tank davis
9. Canelo fighting blindfolded
10. Leo santa cruz

So now he doesnt deserve it. Pbc fighters fight the best only

What a disgraceful list.

Youd have blindfold canelo higher?

So your entire list was meant as a joke?

[Enlightened-One]

[
1. Saul Alvarez
2. Naoya Inoue
3. Errol Spence Jr.
4. Oleksandr Usyk
5. Teofimo Lopez
6. Vasiliy Lomachenko
7. Juan Francisco Estrada
8. Tyson Fury
9. Kazuto Ioka
10. Josh Taylor

Honourable mentions: Gervonta Davis, Jermell Charlo and Shakur Stevenson.

In your opinion, do Davis, Jermell and Stevenson have more claim for the p4p ranking than Crawford?

Terence Crawford is a better fighter than Davis, Jermell and Stevenson. We very likely agree on this.

However, Crawford has achieved far less (in sporting terms) than Davis, Jermell and Stevenson has within the last three and a half years. We very likely agree on this also.

And there aren't any big fights being lined-up for Crawford to address that situation. Bud hasn't scored a notable victory since his twenties. And he'll be 34 years of age by the time his contract expires with Top Rank, which is roughly six months away.

Fighters, like Crawford, eventually become irrelevant when the best they can do to promote themselves is to constantly name drop their rivals (i.e. Pacquiao and Spence Jr.).

I apply expiry dates to resumes/accomplishments. Time doesn't stand still.

"Talent" is useless unless it’s proven…. And "potential" is useless unless it’s fulfilled!”

A fighter like Crawford can't do either if he isn't competing against the very best welterweights.

[H8Usernames]

Here is the only sane P4P list that can be made:

1. Teofimo Lopez
2. GGG
3. Vasiliy Lomachenko
4. Canelo Alvarez
5. Terence Crawford
6. Oleksander Usyk
7. Naoya Inoue
8. Mairis Breidis
9. Manny Pacquiao
10. Gervonta Davis

Honorable mention Roy Jones Jr.

[DrDuke]

[
1. Saul Alvarez
2. Naoya Inoue
3. Errol Spence Jr.
4. Oleksandr Usyk
5. Teofimo Lopez
6. Vasiliy Lomachenko
7. Juan Francisco Estrada
8. Tyson Fury
9. Kazuto Ioka
10. Josh Taylor

Honourable mentions: Gervonta Davis, Jermell Charlo and Shakur Stevenson.

In your opinion, do Davis, Jermell and Stevenson have more claim for the p4p ranking than Crawford?

Terence Crawford is a better fighter than Davis, Jermell and Stevenson. We very likely agree on this.

However, Crawford has achieved far less (in sporting terms) than Davis, Jermell and Stevenson has within the last three and a half years. We very likely agree on this also.

And there aren't any big fights being lined-up for Crawford to address that situation. Bud hasn't scored a notable victory since his twenties. And he'll be 34 years of age by the time his contract expires with Top Rank, which is roughly six months away.

Fighters, like Crawford, eventually become irrelevant when the best they can do to promote themselves is to constantly name drop their rivals (i.e. Pacquiao and Spence Jr.).

I apply expiry dates to resumes/accomplishments. Time doesn't stand still.

"Talent" is useless unless it’s proven…. And "potential" is useless unless it’s fulfilled!”

A fighter like Crawford can't do either if he isn't competing against the very best welterweights.

What a pathetic avoiding of the answer to the question.

[Enlightened-One]

In your opinion, do Davis, Jermell and Stevenson have more claim for the p4p ranking than Crawford?

Terence Crawford is a better fighter than Davis, Jermell and Stevenson. We very likely agree on this.

However, Crawford has achieved far less (in sporting terms) than Davis, Jermell and Stevenson has within the last three and a half years. We very likely agree on this also.

And there aren't any big fights being lined-up for Crawford to address that situation. Bud hasn't scored a notable victory since his twenties. And he'll be 34 years of age by the time his contract expires with Top Rank, which is roughly six months away.

Fighters, like Crawford, eventually become irrelevant when the best they can do to promote themselves is to constantly name drop their rivals (i.e. Pacquiao and Spence Jr.).

I apply expiry dates to resumes/accomplishments. Time doesn't stand still.

"Talent" is useless unless it’s proven…. And "potential" is useless unless it’s fulfilled!”

A fighter like Crawford can't do either if he isn't competing against the very best welterweights.

What a pathetic avoiding of the answer to the question.

I answered the question. You're being pathetic pretending you don't understand my response.

Terence Crawford is a better fighter than Davis, Jermell and Stevenson.

However, Crawford has achieved far less (in sporting terms) than Davis, Jermell and Stevenson has within the last three and a half years.

Davis, Jermell and Stevenson deserve a top-ten pound-for-pound ranking more than Crawford does.

In my mind, Terence Crawford is a dead-cert first ballot future Hall-of-Famer, but the only reason I have that opinion is based on what he achieved during a 3½ year timeframe, between 2013 & 2017.

He’s achieved very little since.

By the time he steps foot inside the ring, he’ll be 34 years of age and he wouldn’t have accomplished anything noteworthy within the last four years.

It doesn’t matter how talented he is, I flatly-refuse to rate him above fighters that are currently achieving great things inside the ring by beating their big-name elite-level rivals, whilst he’s merely a spectator sat on the side-lines, occasionally engaging in mismatches against lacklustre opposition.

What am I supposed to do? Are you seriously expecting me to assume faith and reputation are more valuable criteria than recent victories?

Please tell me I’m wrong. Please explain to me the reason why you believe that reputation is far more important than results

[DrDuke]

Terence Crawford is a better fighter than Davis, Jermell and Stevenson. We very likely agree on this.

However, Crawford has achieved far less (in sporting terms) than Davis, Jermell and Stevenson has within the last three and a half years. We very likely agree on this also.

And there aren't any big fights being lined-up for Crawford to address that situation. Bud hasn't scored a notable victory since his twenties. And he'll be 34 years of age by the time his contract expires with Top Rank, which is roughly six months away.

Fighters, like Crawford, eventually become irrelevant when the best they can do to promote themselves is to constantly name drop their rivals (i.e. Pacquiao and Spence Jr.).

I apply expiry dates to resumes/accomplishments. Time doesn't stand still.

"Talent" is useless unless it’s proven…. And "potential" is useless unless it’s fulfilled!”

A fighter like Crawford can't do either if he isn't competing against the very best welterweights.

What a pathetic avoiding of the answer to the question.

I answered the question. You're being pathetic pretending you don't understand my response.

Terence Crawford is a better fighter than Davis, Jermell and Stevenson.

However, Crawford has achieved far less (in sporting terms) than Davis, Jermell and Stevenson has within the last three and a half years.

Davis, Jermell and Stevenson deserve a top-ten pound-for-pound ranking more than Crawford does.

In my mind, Terence Crawford is a dead-cert first ballot Hall-of-Famer, but the only reason I have that opinion is based on what he achieved during a 3½ year timeframe, between 2013 & 2017.

He’s achieved very little since.

By the time he steps foot inside the ring, he’ll be 34 years of age and he wouldn’t have accomplished anything noteworthy within the last four years.

It doesn’t matter how talented he is, I flatly-refuse to rate him above fighters that are currently achieving great things inside the ring by beating their big-name elite-level rivals, whilst he’s merely a spectator sat on the side-lines, occasionally engaging in mismatches against lacklustre opposition.

What am I supposed to do? Are you seriously expecting me to assume faith and reputation are more valuable criteria than recent victories?

Please tell me I’m wrong. Please explain to me the reason why you believe that reputation is far more important than results

Did you practice you typing speed skills during the period of your ban, so that you've been able to write this load of bollocks in a minute? Or you have just prepared some patterns to copy-paste them quickly?

[The Gratest]

Wow. Not even EO using his numerous other accounts and usernames to vote can stop this poll from being a huge landslide victory for 'Yes'.