Carl Frampton vs. Jamel Herring - 3 April 2021

Who wns?

Poll ended at 03 Apr 2021, 09:50

Frampton - Decision
24
39%
Frampton - T/KO
4
6%
DRAW
1
2%
Herring - T/KO
8
13%
Herring - Decision
25
40%
 
Total votes: 62

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Re: Carl Frampton vs. Jamel Herring - 27 February 2021

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llwynog wrote: 17 Feb 2021, 03:41
maverick23 wrote: 17 Feb 2021, 03:08 There’s some interesting quotes from Herring’s team. They’re implying that the injury is BS and that the fight has been cancelled because FW can’t afford to put it on. When it was announced there was a presumption that ESPN would show it too and pay a decent amount for it.

This isn’t happening as Arum had to distance himself from the fight due to being Stevenson’s promoter and seemingly wanting to show loyalty to him over Herring.

Herring’s team said that they hadn’t received any flight confirmations or an itinerary for the fight and the coms from FW’s team had been poor.

They also said that the fight will go ahead late March now with MTK promoting.
Where have you seen this?
Whar doesn't make sense is.. Arum co-promotes Frampton and also promotes Herring. Not just Stevenson. How is that being disloyal to show it on ESPN?

Should have just done the fight in US.

Why hasn't FW got the funds to put on a world title fighht? What's up with his BT deal? and must have been getting a decent cut from Fury..
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Re: Carl Frampton vs. Jamel Herring - 27 February 2021

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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 17 Feb 2021, 04:58
llwynog wrote: 17 Feb 2021, 03:41
maverick23 wrote: 17 Feb 2021, 03:08 There’s some interesting quotes from Herring’s team. They’re implying that the injury is BS and that the fight has been cancelled because FW can’t afford to put it on. When it was announced there was a presumption that ESPN would show it too and pay a decent amount for it.

This isn’t happening as Arum had to distance himself from the fight due to being Stevenson’s promoter and seemingly wanting to show loyalty to him over Herring.

Herring’s team said that they hadn’t received any flight confirmations or an itinerary for the fight and the coms from FW’s team had been poor.

They also said that the fight will go ahead late March now with MTK promoting.
Where have you seen this?
Whar doesn't make sense is.. Arum co-promotes Frampton and also promotes Herring. Not just Stevenson. How is that being disloyal to show it on ESPN?

Should have just done the fight in US.

Why hasn't FW got the funds to put on a world title fighht? What's up with his BT deal? and must have been getting a decent cut from Fury..
Yeah - I don’t particularly get why Arum has washed his hands of this fight. May have been to just appease Stevenson and keep the fight for the title but it doesn’t make much sense.

He will be getting a decent cut from Fury but there’s nothing to cut at the moment. Not sure re: his BT deal. He did v.well to put the Dubois/Joyce fight on normal BT but he may have put himself into the position of losing a few hundred grand on this one given there’s no US tv which I’m sure he would have expected.
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Re: Carl Frampton vs. Jamel Herring - 27 February 2021

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Can't see this happening now tbh, what hind of hand injury heals so quick?!
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Re: Carl Frampton vs. Jamel Herring - 27 February 2021

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Herring Staying Calm

When WBO junior lightweight champion Jamel Herring got the call on Monday from Jamie Conlan of MTK Global, Herring’s adviser, and was told that his already delayed title defense against Carl Frampton was being postponed, he was not at all surprised. Disappointed, yes, but not surprised.

“I actually was hearing about this, honestly, for the last two, three days, the rumors,” Herring told Boxing Scene on Tuesday night. “MTK was frustrated because (promoter) allegedly’s side hasn’t been keeping us in the loop about much. We were still literally last week trying to get plane tickets to go over to the UK.”

Warren was scheduled to put on the fight Feb. 27 in London without spectators due to the coronavirus pandemic with BT Sport televising it in the United Kingdom. However, conspicuously missing from any pre-fight promotion was the expected announcement that the fight would air on an ESPN platform, probably ESPN+, since Top Rank, which has an exclusive deal with ESPN, promotes Herring and is Frampton’s co-promoter. Top Rank had signed off on allowing Warren to put the fight deal together and to promote it.

Warren, however, according to a source with knowledge of the situation, expected Top Rank to bankroll much of the cost of the bout from the ESPN budget it controls but Top Rank pushed back, reasoning that he made the deal for the fight with MTK, which also is Frampton’s adviser, so paying for it was his issue.

Said Herring, “It seems like at this point I believe that MTK along with Top Rank, they’ll be taking over the promotion, and I’ve been hearing that the fight may also move outside of London as well. With MTK it still might be held out there (in the United Kingdom), but they’re taking over from here. I speak to Jamie Conlan every day. He’s been keeping me in the loop. He’s been a great help. We’ll get more concrete answers in the next few days.

“I’ve been told it will be pushed back to March 27. We can just go off what (MTK) is saying. As of now, in terms of allegedly, I can’t really say much on that because we haven’t really gotten much from them throughout the whole buildup to be honest with you. Jamie Conlan hit me up (Tuesday) morning and he said they’re taking over the fight and they’re gonna put more emphasis on Top Rank to do their part as well. We’ll definitely get the fight on. I’m not gonna stress. I’m not worried. I’ve been through worse.

“My trainer is probably more upset than anyone on the team because he knows we’ve put in a lot of work and he feels like this is the best training camp I’ve had. My team is taking it a lot harder than I am. I’m OK.”


Herring, who has been in training camp in Colorado Springs since November, said he would continue to train while awaiting concrete information on the new date, but will make sure he does not overdo it.

“For the most part my team will pull me back a little bit so I don’t completely over train and do too much to jeopardize my performance in the future,” Herring said.

Herring added that he did not think Frampton was in any way trying to avoid him.

“We know he’s had hand injuries in the past, so I’m giving him the reasonable doubt over this,” Herring said. “I’m not saying he may be trying to run away from the fight. From what I’ve been told by MTK he actually is the one who actually begged that the fight wouldn’t get canceled or completely thrown away.”

Trainer McIntyre Sounds Off on Frampton Fight Postponement

“I think it’s some bull----. All of a sudden, (Frampton) hurt his hand? Yeah, right,” Brian “Bomac” McIntyre, Herring’s trainer and manager told Boxing Scene on Tuesday night. “We didn’t even receive flights or anything before we were supposed to leave and then we got no flights and all of a sudden he hurt his hand? Get the f--- out of here. I don’t know what they’re doing over there.

“Last week, I asked (Top Rank chief operating officer) Brad Jacobs if (ESPN) was going to pick up the fight and he just said straight out, ‘No. I’m not trying to be cute or anything but we’re not.’ I was like, ‘OK.’”


McIntyre said they were due supposed to fly to London on Friday but they had yet to be given an itinerary or plane tickets.

“We didn’t have sh--,” McIntyre said.

Herring and McIntyre said Conlan told them MTK and Top Rank would take over promotion of the fight and that it would be rescheduled for March 27 at a site to be determined.

“From what I hear, Top Rank is moving forward with the fight now, so we’ll see,” McIntyre said.

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Re: Carl Frampton vs. Jamel Herring - 27 February 2021

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llwynog wrote: 17 Feb 2021, 06:30 Can't see this happening now tbh, what hind of hand injury heals so quick?!
My thoughts too.
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Re: Carl Frampton vs. Jamel Herring - 27 February 2021

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maverick23 wrote: 17 Feb 2021, 07:07
llwynog wrote: 17 Feb 2021, 06:30 Can't see this happening now tbh, what hind of hand injury heals so quick?!
My thoughts too.
If it was just a hand injury, then MTK and ESPN would not have taken over taken over the fight so quick and said the fight will only be pushed back by only a month.

Something is up.
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Re: Carl Frampton vs. Jamel Herring - 27 February 2021

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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 17 Feb 2021, 07:08
maverick23 wrote: 17 Feb 2021, 07:07
llwynog wrote: 17 Feb 2021, 06:30 Can't see this happening now tbh, what hind of hand injury heals so quick?!
My thoughts too.
If it was just a hand injury, then MTK and ESPN would not have taken over taken over the fight so quick and said the fight will only be pushed back by only a month.

Something is up.
True.
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Re: Carl Frampton vs. Jamel Herring - 27 February 2021 (Postponed)

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Top Rank wouldnt be too upset if this fell through would they? Shakur is their pet long term
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Re: Carl Frampton vs. Jamel Herring - 27 February 2021 (Postponed)

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FW’s confirmed it’s off now. No new date given for the fight and no additions to next week’s show by the look of things.

Carl’s basically saying he’s got a sore hand. 😳
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Re: Carl Frampton vs. Jamel Herring - 27 February 2021 (Postponed)

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maverick23 wrote: 17 Feb 2021, 14:21 FW’s confirmed it’s off now. No new date given for the fight and no additions to next week’s show by the look of things.

Carl’s basically saying he’s got a sore hand. 😳
The whole card off?
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Re: Carl Frampton vs. Jamel Herring - 27 February 2021 (Postponed)

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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 17 Feb 2021, 14:24
maverick23 wrote: 17 Feb 2021, 14:21 FW’s confirmed it’s off now. No new date given for the fight and no additions to next week’s show by the look of things.

Carl’s basically saying he’s got a sore hand. 😳
The whole card off?
Nope - just the main event.
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Re: Carl Frampton vs. Jamel Herring - 27 February 2021 (Postponed)

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This fight is cursed. If it ever happens I’m gonna bet both fighters find out their wives have left them then are struck by lightning, right on their ball sacks.

Feel annoyed cos I did think it was an interesting bout and was excited to see it.
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Re: Carl Frampton vs. Jamel Herring - 27 February 2021 (Postponed)

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Re: Carl Frampton vs. Jamel Herring - 27 February 2021 (Postponed)

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fights going to dubai - thought frampton hated being away from family? has to quarantine in a hotel for 10 days now. goes back to belfast every weekend too

why can’t MTK just make it in america?
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Re: Carl Frampton vs. Jamel Herring - 27 February 2021 (Postponed)

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eoghanmachin wrote: 18 Feb 2021, 04:36 fights going to dubai - thought frampton hated being away from family? has to quarantine in a hotel for 10 days now. goes back to belfast every weekend too

why can’t MTK just make it in america?
They don’t have a US broadcaster for the fight so will be impossible for them to recoup the majority of the costs back. Arum may decide to pay a little more for it (than he was prepared to do with the fight in the U.K.)if it’s at a ‘better’ time in the US for ESPN.

FW released a statement re: the cancellation of the fight - no mention of a timeline for it to be rescheduled which is really strange.

He’ll be really hoping his new main event next week doesn’t have any Covid issues as it’s a weak show now.
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Re: Carl Frampton vs. Jamel Herring - 27 February 2021 (Postponed)

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Queensbury have signed Callum Johnson now so must have some income.
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Re: Carl Frampton vs. Jamel Herring - 27 February 2021 (Postponed)

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mickey1975 wrote: 18 Feb 2021, 05:35 Queensbury have signed Callum Johnson now so must have some income.
Ca get in the mix with Yarde and Arthur.
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Re: Carl Frampton vs. Jamel Herring - 27 February 2021 (Postponed)

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FW denying any issues as well
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Re: Carl Frampton vs. Jamel Herring - 27 February 2021 (Postponed)

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llwynog wrote: 18 Feb 2021, 06:35 FW denying any issues as well
If there were no issues wouldn’t he have given an expectation as to when the fight would be rearranged to? Herring will be getting paid well to come over and Frampton probably isn’t cheap either so it wouldn’t surprise me if FW wants someone else to take the risk on the fight now or at least get a rights fee from Dubai for it. I wouldn’t really hold it against him either.
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Re: Carl Frampton vs. Jamel Herring - 3 April 2021

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Will take place in UAE on April 3.
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Re: Carl Frampton vs. Jamel Herring - 3 April 2021

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Yep, reportedly it's going to the United Arab Emirates on April 3rd.

No doubt now that this event is being bankrolled by Kinahan money... They've been licking up to the Arabs royal families for many years and they've great relations with them. This event is a real opportunism for The Jackal. Let's be honest, Herring is nothing special and he won't be World Champion for long... Carl would be as well taking this fight as quickly as he can get it...

Prime-for-Prime, I do think that Frampton would blow him out of the water but his best days are behind him which should even the contest up more... I'm not expecting fireworks in this fight, I can see it going the distance, the real questions are does Frampton still have the reflexes to get in and out? And can Herring make the most of his size advantage....?

Either way, whoever comes out of this as WBO World Champion at Super Feathwerweight will most likely get their heads boxed off them by the mandatory challenger, Shakur Stevenson. Carl's best hope there is to get the fight in Belfast and call it a day afterward....
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Re: Carl Frampton vs. Jamel Herring - 3 April 2021

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Re: Carl Frampton vs. Jamel Herring - 3 April 2021

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Hmmm.

Announced by Kugan but seemingly not by Top Rank or FW or BT Sports.

Surely BT will be picking this up?!? Or could this be the first big fight live on IFL?!
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Re: Carl Frampton vs. Jamel Herring - 3 April 2021

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Announced by Kugan ffs
It's all a bit strange no? Top Rank, FW and BT seemingly not involved at the moment
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