Round-by-Round: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Avni Yildirim - February 27, 2021
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gregregegg
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Re: Round-by-Round: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Avni Yildirim - February 27, 2021
How did a judge give Forrest 95? He lost 6 points in the first 3 rounds?
Re: Round-by-Round: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Avni Yildirim - February 27, 2021
To go down heavily three times and look on the verge of being stopped, that was some comeback.
Not sure about him calling out AJ though!
Not sure about him calling out AJ though!
Re: Round-by-Round: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Avni Yildirim - February 27, 2021
True....I’m fine with the overall result.
Re: Round-by-Round: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Avni Yildirim - February 27, 2021
I did wonder that myself...gregregegg wrote: ↑27 Feb 2021, 22:11 How did a judge give Forrest 95? He lost 6 points in the first 3 rounds?
Re: Round-by-Round: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Avni Yildirim - February 27, 2021
Did Zhang train for an amateur boat? He did not look well at all after the 4th and seemed busted at the end.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Avni Yildirim - February 27, 2021
Ah shit. I put a few quid on Forrest win just before the last round . 13 to 2. Worth the gamble 
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Re: Round-by-Round: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Avni Yildirim - February 27, 2021
great comeback by forrest but dont see a route to a win for him on my card, being down 7 after 4
Re: Round-by-Round: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Avni Yildirim - February 27, 2021
That’s what I saw.gregregegg wrote: ↑27 Feb 2021, 21:37 Did the ref wave that off third round of Zhang vs Forrest then change his mind and act like it was the start of his count?
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Re: Round-by-Round: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Avni Yildirim - February 27, 2021
The score should of been 186 total max. So you can’t have 95-93, can’t even have 94-93,milpool wrote: ↑27 Feb 2021, 22:11I did wonder that myself...gregregegg wrote: ↑27 Feb 2021, 22:11 How did a judge give Forrest 95? He lost 6 points in the first 3 rounds?
if you give Zhang 93 then he won 4 rounds and lost a point. So if Forrest won 6 rounds and got knocked down 3 times then that’s 93 too... how can the judges on massive cards, canelo cards... not add,
Unless they scored 2 of the first 3 rounds as 10-10s then point of for being knocked down, so 10-9s, but fornicate that would be outrageous.
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margaret thatcher
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Re: Round-by-Round: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Avni Yildirim - February 27, 2021
did the master card guy forget to deduct the kds or something on that card, it's weird, those were 3 standard 10-8 rounds
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gregregegg
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Re: Round-by-Round: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Avni Yildirim - February 27, 2021
A super rare, and incorrect 10-10 4th could of got it to 94-93 to Forrest. But 95 guy is on crack or else I can’t do maths anymore (possible)
Re: Round-by-Round: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Avni Yildirim - February 27, 2021
Well, at least Arroyo stayed active and sharp.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Avni Yildirim - February 27, 2021
Fukin hell I thought this would be quicker between fights 
Re: Round-by-Round: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Avni Yildirim - February 27, 2021
It was really easy to score too.
Zhang won first 3,4 or 5 depending on taste and surely Forrest won 6-10.
So if you favoured Forrest and only gave Zhang the first 3 then you'd get 3x10 +(7x9) -1 deduction... = 92
and Forrest 7x10 =70 +24 for 3 KD rounds.
So 92-94 for those that thought Zhang won nothing after the 3rd.
How f**king hard can it be ?
Zhang won first 3,4 or 5 depending on taste and surely Forrest won 6-10.
So if you favoured Forrest and only gave Zhang the first 3 then you'd get 3x10 +(7x9) -1 deduction... = 92
and Forrest 7x10 =70 +24 for 3 KD rounds.
So 92-94 for those that thought Zhang won nothing after the 3rd.
How f**king hard can it be ?
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margaret thatcher
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Re: Round-by-Round: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Avni Yildirim - February 27, 2021
i thought zhang won the 4th pretty clearly too as he had forrest on jelly legs again
it was easy for me, zhang up 40-33 after 4, then forrest wins everything after that plus the deduction = draw. none of the first 3 really seemed like rounds where forrest did well enough for them to be 10-9 but evidentally that one judge must've had him with a couple of those?
though tbh, i thought they were mutually messy and falling into each other , and i wouldnt have taken the point from zhang, but overall the result seemed okay
it was easy for me, zhang up 40-33 after 4, then forrest wins everything after that plus the deduction = draw. none of the first 3 really seemed like rounds where forrest did well enough for them to be 10-9 but evidentally that one judge must've had him with a couple of those?
though tbh, i thought they were mutually messy and falling into each other , and i wouldnt have taken the point from zhang, but overall the result seemed okay
Re: Round-by-Round: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Avni Yildirim - February 27, 2021
The wait is ridiculous and typical of Dazn.
Re: Round-by-Round: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Avni Yildirim - February 27, 2021
A lot of late money coming in Yildirim. Odds came all the way down from -10000 for Canelo to -3000.
Gotta respect the Turkish people for getting behind their man in a full-on parade.
My prediction is Canelo in 5.
Gotta respect the Turkish people for getting behind their man in a full-on parade.
My prediction is Canelo in 5.
Re: Round-by-Round: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Avni Yildirim - February 27, 2021
Canelo Miami/Vice intro is fire.
All time great.
All time great.
Re: Round-by-Round: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Avni Yildirim - February 27, 2021
This is horrendous stuff! Get the fight on ffs!
Re: Round-by-Round: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Avni Yildirim - February 27, 2021
A knockdown does not automatically mean a round is scored 10-8.
There is no such rule.
Generally if a knockdown happens the round is scored 10-8 but there are exceptions.
In the third Forrest went down very early in the round then arguably won the rest of the round which gave him a chance to lose that round 10-9 vs 10-8.
I had that round 10-8 because imo Forrest was badly hurt, it was not a "flash" kd, he obviously recovered well but not enough to avoid 10-8 for me.
4th round: I thought Forrest was winning before getting wobbled late in the round which swung it 10-9 to the big man for me.
Imo Forrest won the remaining rounds plus a point deduction leaving my card at 93-93.
Back to the 3rd and 4th rounds: a judge scoring the 3rd 10-9 big guy and the 4th 10-9 Forrest = 95-92
Doesn't match my scorecard but it's easy to see how the judge got to 95.
Last but not least: while not high level boxing it was a fairly fun fight, with real drama wondering if the exhausted big guy would make it to the final bell let's not lose track of that.
There is no such rule.
Generally if a knockdown happens the round is scored 10-8 but there are exceptions.
In the third Forrest went down very early in the round then arguably won the rest of the round which gave him a chance to lose that round 10-9 vs 10-8.
I had that round 10-8 because imo Forrest was badly hurt, it was not a "flash" kd, he obviously recovered well but not enough to avoid 10-8 for me.
4th round: I thought Forrest was winning before getting wobbled late in the round which swung it 10-9 to the big man for me.
Imo Forrest won the remaining rounds plus a point deduction leaving my card at 93-93.
Back to the 3rd and 4th rounds: a judge scoring the 3rd 10-9 big guy and the 4th 10-9 Forrest = 95-92
Doesn't match my scorecard but it's easy to see how the judge got to 95.
Last but not least: while not high level boxing it was a fairly fun fight, with real drama wondering if the exhausted big guy would make it to the final bell let's not lose track of that.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Avni Yildirim - February 27, 2021
Does 30-year-old Canelo have a retreating hair line?