Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021
Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021
Call me crazy... But I voted for Billy to do it on points... But it really could be a mission impossible...
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mickey1975
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Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021
I’m putting it out there.... Is Canelo slightly overrated? It’s been close every time he’s fought anyone good, could easily be 0-3 against elite guys and I totally dismiss Rocky and Yildrim. Giving C Smith a few weeks notice was bad, too.
Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021
Saunders doesn't live the life year round and hasn't boxed in anywhere near the class of Canelo. He may look good for a few rounds but, and especially at 168, he will fade and I think Canelo stops him 9-12.
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bigjack
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Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021
Callum smith was a good fighter,not elite but very decent and he played with him and had it all his own way,yes some of his elite opposition were close fights,which shows really anyone below that level is getting a beating,is Saunders elite ?mickey1975 wrote: ↑04 Mar 2021, 05:22 I’m putting it out there.... Is Canelo slightly overrated? It’s been close every time he’s fought anyone good, could easily be 0-3 against elite guys and I totally dismiss Rocky and Yildrim. Giving C Smith a few weeks notice was bad, too.
Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021
I think if anyone can beat Canelo then Bill can
Can make it a very hard nights work for Canelo,I rate Canelo highly but bill is very skilled and I think people's views on him are getting in the way of their views on his chances
Course he could do with being more active for this,but he will turn up trust me
Can make it a very hard nights work for Canelo,I rate Canelo highly but bill is very skilled and I think people's views on him are getting in the way of their views on his chances
Course he could do with being more active for this,but he will turn up trust me
Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021
No I didn't. Don't make stuff up.bigjack wrote: ↑02 Mar 2021, 03:08And yet in a previous post you said you DIDN'T predict a Canelo ko ? Kovalev did decline but when was he thought of as chinny ?Cyclops wrote: ↑01 Mar 2021, 18:38As much as I liked Kov Ward had given him a decent old crack that definitely put some water in the basement before the testicle punishing finish. And do you deny the obvious slide of the once fearsome Russian, and the clear and increased chin deficiency, or are we trying to pretend Kov was still some kind of destroyer when he fought ginger bollocks?
I told you: Canelo by KO was my prediction before that fight. And that was because Kovalev had looked so fragile since Ward took his soul. So I watch boxing and, if I'm interested, I generally get it right. What result did you pick?
"I didn't vote Canelo by KO in the build up because I thought he'd be the fighter from Ward 1." Is that the sentence you want to try and take out of all the context surrounding it where I said he was chinny and a shot fighter ready to stopped when Canelo fought him? Why don't you slow down and read posts properly?
He's been thought of as chinny for quite some time. It's no new observation.
Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021
Anyone who thinks Saunders gets even close to beating Canelo needs to have a word with themselves. Hopefully Saunders gets the snot knocked out of him just because he's a horrid little scrote, but I can see him running away for a points defeat.
Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021
I don't think he'll do it but if the odds are insane as I expect them to be I'll stick a couple of quid on it for fun.Oiky wrote: ↑04 Mar 2021, 08:13 I think if anyone can beat Canelo then Bill can
Can make it a very hard nights work for Canelo,I rate Canelo highly but bill is very skilled and I think people's views on him are getting in the way of their views on his chances
Course he could do with being more active for this,but he will turn up trust me
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bigjack
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Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021
I've moved on from this as i was bored with itCyclops wrote: ↑04 Mar 2021, 08:28No I didn't. Don't make stuff up.bigjack wrote: ↑02 Mar 2021, 03:08And yet in a previous post you said you DIDN'T predict a Canelo ko ? Kovalev did decline but when was he thought of as chinny ?Cyclops wrote: ↑01 Mar 2021, 18:38
As much as I liked Kov Ward had given him a decent old crack that definitely put some water in the basement before the testicle punishing finish. And do you deny the obvious slide of the once fearsome Russian, and the clear and increased chin deficiency, or are we trying to pretend Kov was still some kind of destroyer when he fought ginger bollocks?
I told you: Canelo by KO was my prediction before that fight. And that was because Kovalev had looked so fragile since Ward took his soul. So I watch boxing and, if I'm interested, I generally get it right. What result did you pick?
"I didn't vote Canelo by KO in the build up because I thought he'd be the fighter from Ward 1." Is that the sentence you want to try and take out of all the context surrounding it where I said he was chinny and a shot fighter ready to stopped when Canelo fought him? Why don't you slow down and read posts properly?
He's been thought of as chinny for quite some time. It's no new observation.
Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021
You picked the argument, mate.bigjack wrote: ↑04 Mar 2021, 08:47I've moved on from this as i was bored with itCyclops wrote: ↑04 Mar 2021, 08:28No I didn't. Don't make stuff up.
"I didn't vote Canelo by KO in the build up because I thought he'd be the fighter from Ward 1." Is that the sentence you want to try and take out of all the context surrounding it where I said he was chinny and a shot fighter ready to stopped when Canelo fought him? Why don't you slow down and read posts properly?
He's been thought of as chinny for quite some time. It's no new observation.![]()
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bigjack
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Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021
Can we be friends ? I don't always agree with my wife but i love herCyclops wrote: ↑04 Mar 2021, 08:54You picked the argument, mate.bigjack wrote: ↑04 Mar 2021, 08:47I've moved on from this as i was bored with itCyclops wrote: ↑04 Mar 2021, 08:28
No I didn't. Don't make stuff up.
"I didn't vote Canelo by KO in the build up because I thought he'd be the fighter from Ward 1." Is that the sentence you want to try and take out of all the context surrounding it where I said he was chinny and a shot fighter ready to stopped when Canelo fought him? Why don't you slow down and read posts properly?
He's been thought of as chinny for quite some time. It's no new observation.![]()
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danconnollyeire
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Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021
I just re-watched the Lemieux and BJS was outstanding that night, his footwork first class, great shot variation..
BUT...
Lemieux was awful. All he did was plough forward and throw the most telegraphed shots. Canelo obvious won't and the fact Canelo is 1) a brilliant counter puncher (see Kirkland fight) and 2) can walk forward and break you down if needs be (Calum Smith) means BJS is going to have to be so imaginative to win and it's very hard to see a clear path to victory
BUT...
Lemieux was awful. All he did was plough forward and throw the most telegraphed shots. Canelo obvious won't and the fact Canelo is 1) a brilliant counter puncher (see Kirkland fight) and 2) can walk forward and break you down if needs be (Calum Smith) means BJS is going to have to be so imaginative to win and it's very hard to see a clear path to victory
Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021
Think if you do you'll be pleasantly surprised mateCyclops wrote: ↑04 Mar 2021, 08:36I don't think he'll do it but if the odds are insane as I expect them to be I'll stick a couple of quid on it for fun.Oiky wrote: ↑04 Mar 2021, 08:13 I think if anyone can beat Canelo then Bill can
Can make it a very hard nights work for Canelo,I rate Canelo highly but bill is very skilled and I think people's views on him are getting in the way of their views on his chances
Course he could do with being more active for this,but he will turn up trust me
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bigjack
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Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021
Only Boxrec ? this is the longest relationship i've had
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PredatorHayds
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Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021
BJS is a bully. I think as soon as he’s battered for a couple of rounds he will look for a way out.
Retires on his stool after 5 rounds with a ‘damaged shoulder’
Retires on his stool after 5 rounds with a ‘damaged shoulder’
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Counter-puncher
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Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021
I think that's a smart predictionPredatorHayds wrote: ↑04 Mar 2021, 12:20 BJS is a bully. I think as soon as he’s battered for a couple of rounds he will look for a way out.
Retires on his stool after 5 rounds with a ‘damaged shoulder’
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bigjack
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Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021
That way he could say he wasn't actually beaten properly,looking forward to this one and seeing how Saunders will deal with the best opponent he has ever faced , who is improving and active.Counter-puncher wrote: ↑04 Mar 2021, 12:30I think that's a smart predictionPredatorHayds wrote: ↑04 Mar 2021, 12:20 BJS is a bully. I think as soon as he’s battered for a couple of rounds he will look for a way out.
Retires on his stool after 5 rounds with a ‘damaged shoulder’
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polecateddy
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Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021
Saunders seems to have some stamina issues, probably due to lax cardio training. The withdrawal after 9 rounds sounds about right, or a survival job where its a shutout for Canelo. I don't think any of the current super middles have much spark about them compared to earlier generations. It's easy pickings for the Mexican.
Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021
easy to answer - nonebigjack wrote: ↑03 Mar 2021, 14:37How many of Saunder's opponent would Canelo have struggled with or gone to split decisions/close wins over ?stevec@france wrote: ↑03 Mar 2021, 14:06 Blow Job Saunders has been inactive and has fought mediocre opposition for years .
perfect prep for Canelo![]()
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bigjack
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Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021
Exactly,not the best preperation when facing the worlds P4P number 1 for the undisputed title in Americastevec@france wrote: ↑04 Mar 2021, 13:19easy to answer - nonebigjack wrote: ↑03 Mar 2021, 14:37How many of Saunder's opponent would Canelo have struggled with or gone to split decisions/close wins over ?stevec@france wrote: ↑03 Mar 2021, 14:06 Blow Job Saunders has been inactive and has fought mediocre opposition for years .
perfect prep for Canelo![]()
Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021
A sure fire win for Canelo obviously. Saunders can't knock out Canelo therefore he can't win. Even if he deserved an 8 rounds to 4 decision, the decision would go to Canelo.
So the only question here is how does Canelo win. Simply not possible for Saunders to win.
For the record, I don't think Canelo will need any help in beating Saunders. I think he'll be able to beat him legitimately, but he of course has the help should he need it.
So the only question here is how does Canelo win. Simply not possible for Saunders to win.
For the record, I don't think Canelo will need any help in beating Saunders. I think he'll be able to beat him legitimately, but he of course has the help should he need it.
Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021
its all about $$$$$gilgamesh wrote: ↑04 Mar 2021, 14:20 A sure fire win for Canelo obviously. Saunders can't knock out Canelo therefore he can't win. Even if he deserved an 8 rounds to 4 decision, the decision would go to Canelo.
So the only question here is how does Canelo win. Simply not possible for Saunders to win.
For the record, I don't think Canelo will need any help in beating Saunders. I think he'll be able to beat him legitimately, but he of course has the help should he need it.
bjs knows he cant win but wants to get paid the big money which has eluded him because he hasnt been active enough or some may say good enough.
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Terminator666
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Re: Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021
Who are the 3% that voted for a Saunders stoppage?