Canelo/Yildirim Wasn’t a MANDATORY DEFENSE. So why Canelo?

[Crease]

"In this case [with Yildirim] there was a situation that drastically changed, which was the inactivity generated by the pandemic and the effects of the pandemic itself. So we ended up ordering a fight with the official challenger, so that his rights were respected."

Sulaiman is just moving the goalposts here... Now after the fight, he wasn't the mando challenger, but he was the "official challenger"...

[Enlightened-One]

"In this case [with Yildirim] there was a situation that drastically changed, which was the inactivity generated by the pandemic and the effects of the pandemic itself. So we ended up ordering a fight with the official challenger, so that his rights were respected."

Sulaiman is just moving the goalposts here... Now after the fight, he wasn't the mando challenger, but he was the "official challenger"...

Yildrim was the mandatory challenger.

The WBC don’t order voluntary title defences.

[Crease]

Yildrim was the mandatory challenger.
The WBC don’t order voluntary title defences.

Agreed... But tell that to Sulaiman.

[H8Usernames]

I dont see the problem. A stay busy tuneup fight using the old mandatory bs excuse. Its not like Canelo hasnt participated in big fights for ages.

[gilgamesh]

I dont see the problem. A stay busy tuneup fight using the old mandatory bs excuse. Its not like Canelo hasnt participated in big fights for ages.

And he intends to fight twice more this year with the opponents both certainly being of higher stock than Yildirim.

Yildirim being the Mandatory contender can really only be explained by corruption within the WBC though. He obviously didn't earn that title shot. Somebody bought it for him.

[H8Usernames]

I dont see the problem. A stay busy tuneup fight using the old mandatory bs excuse. Its not like Canelo hasnt participated in big fights for ages.

And he intends to fight twice more this year with the opponents both certainly being of higher stock than Yildirim.

Yildirim being the Mandatory contender can really only be explained by corruption within the WBC though. He obviously didn't earn that title shot. Somebody bought it for him.

Isnt that like the standard operating procedure?

Pretty sure that there exists some law that forbids fighters being ranked without money exchanging hands under tables.

[Enlightened-One]

I dont see the problem. A stay busy tuneup fight using the old mandatory bs excuse. Its not like Canelo hasnt participated in big fights for ages.

And he intends to fight twice more this year with the opponents both certainly being of higher stock than Yildirim.

Yildirim being the Mandatory contender can really only be explained by corruption within the WBC though. He obviously didn't earn that title shot. Somebody bought it for him.

Isnt that like the standard operating procedure?

Pretty sure that there exists some law that forbids fighters being ranked without money exchanging hands under tables.

Avni Yildirim was the WBC’s mandatory challenger before Canelo faced Kovalev. In fact, the WBC had agreed to grant the Turkish fighter a second shot at the 168lbs title before Canelo fought Daniel Jacobs.

It’s rather interesting to see people deciding to complain about certain long-term situations only when they directly impact one of the sport’s biggest names. Otherwise, they don’t even give those scenarios a second thought.

And to be honest, without intending to defend the utterly rancid WBC, since I find them to be a hideously vile organisation, but it’s far too easy to name fighters that have received title shots (from all the governing bodies) that were inferior (or at least on a par) with Yildrim.

He’s not the worst fighter to have ever laced gloves.

[H8Usernames]

It’s rather interesting to see people deciding to complain about certain long-term situations only when they directly impact one of the sport’s biggest names. Otherwise, they don’t even give those scenarios a second thought.


And to be honest, without intending to defend the utterly rancid WBC, since I find them to be a hideously vile organisation, but it’s far too easy to name fighters that have received title shots (from all the governing bodies) that were inferior (or at least on a par) with Yildrim.

He’s not the worst fighter to have ever laced gloves.

Did I complain?
Did I make those claims about this Yildirim?

[Crease]

I don't really remember the last time a Mandatory opponent and The Best opponent available was the same thing.

I think it is a mixed bag...

When Kelly Brook was IBF World Champion at Welterweight, Errol Spence had earned the right to challenge him as Mandatory. That was definitely a tough, tough title defense...
Just off the top of my head if Carl Frampton wins this WBO World title at Super Feather against Jamel Herring (I think that he will) the victor will be required to defend against Shakur Stevenson later this year... I think young Stevenson beats both of them, he does looked a good'un.

But Mr Gil, I definitely do understand your bewilderment at some of the guys who become mandos... I remember some of Wladimir Klitchsko's defences - Alex Leapai (WBA mando) and I was absolutely disgusted that this mismatch was signed and sanctioned... That guy Leapai might be doing well over in the pacific region, but there was no way was he ready to fight a man like Wladimir... It was atrocious...

And I'm just trying to remember if Pianeta was a mandatory (IBF?) - I'm not sure on that one...

[Counter-puncher]

It’s rather interesting to see people deciding to complain about certain long-term situations only when they directly impact one of the sport’s biggest names. Otherwise, they don’t even give those scenarios a second thought.


And to be honest, without intending to defend the utterly rancid WBC, since I find them to be a hideously vile organisation, but it’s far too easy to name fighters that have received title shots (from all the governing bodies) that were inferior (or at least on a par) with Yildrim.

He’s not the worst fighter to have ever laced gloves.

Did I complain?
Did I make those claims about this Yildirim?

That’s the thing with EO where Canelo is concerned, nobody need necessarily have made any accusations against him, EO will coming riding in on his little pink My Little Pony to defend the honour of his love object anyway.

[margaret thatcher]

ya he's got a bit of an obsessive 'my gay heart throb' vibe when it comes to clenelo doesnt he

do you wish it was you feeding clenelo that mexican meat, eo?

[Counter-puncher]

Canelo is a dreamboat tbf

[margaret thatcher]

he's a bit on the short side, but you can't blame eo for admiring those thick ginger muscles

[margaret thatcher]

It’s rather interesting to see people deciding to complain about certain long-term situations only when they directly impact one of the sport’s biggest names. Otherwise, they don’t even give those scenarios a second thought.


And to be honest, without intending to defend the utterly rancid WBC, since I find them to be a hideously vile organisation, but it’s far too easy to name fighters that have received title shots (from all the governing bodies) that were inferior (or at least on a par) with Yildrim.

He’s not the worst fighter to have ever laced gloves.

Did I complain?
Did I make those claims about this Yildirim?

yyou heard him

LEAVE

CANELO

ALONE

[gilgamesh]

And he intends to fight twice more this year with the opponents both certainly being of higher stock than Yildirim.

Yildirim being the Mandatory contender can really only be explained by corruption within the WBC though. He obviously didn't earn that title shot. Somebody bought it for him.

Isnt that like the standard operating procedure?

Pretty sure that there exists some law that forbids fighters being ranked without money exchanging hands under tables.

Avni Yildirim was the WBC’s mandatory challenger before Canelo faced Kovalev. In fact, the WBC had agreed to grant the Turkish fighter a second shot at the 168lbs title before Canelo fought Daniel Jacobs.

It’s rather interesting to see people deciding to complain about certain long-term situations only when they directly impact one of the sport’s biggest names. Otherwise, they don’t even give those scenarios a second thought.

And to be honest, without intending to defend the utterly rancid WBC, since I find them to be a hideously vile organisation, but it’s far too easy to name fighters that have received title shots (from all the governing bodies) that were inferior (or at least on a par) with Yildrim.

He’s not the worst fighter to have ever laced gloves.

For the record my comment that somebody buys mandatory position wasn't aimed specifically at the WBC. I don't think any of these title organizations have integrity. They're all bought and sold.

[caldo2025]

Yeah I blew it dude. It was an interview from a few years ago when these two were matched up the first time. I’m a dhead and like whiskey.

[Enlightened-One]

It’s rather interesting to see people deciding to complain about certain long-term situations only when they directly impact one of the sport’s biggest names. Otherwise, they don’t even give those scenarios a second thought.


And to be honest, without intending to defend the utterly rancid WBC, since I find them to be a hideously vile organisation, but it’s far too easy to name fighters that have received title shots (from all the governing bodies) that were inferior (or at least on a par) with Yildrim.

He’s not the worst fighter to have ever laced gloves.

Did I complain?
Did I make those claims about this Yildirim?

You and Gilgamesh both claimed that corruption (i.e. money exchanging hands under the table) allowed Canelo to perform an easy mandatory title defence against a poor opponent.

I was merely pointing out three rather obvious facts, which either directly address your comments or the general sentiments of the forum:

• Yildrim’s WBC mandatory challenger status had nothing to do with Canelo, regardless as to whether your corruption accusations were true or not.
• Yildrim was the mandatory challenger for a very long time, but nobody complained until he became Canelo’s opponent.
• Yildrim isn’t the worst fighter to have ever challenged for a world title.

I’m assuming you’ll agree with all those points, since you can’t honestly pretend otherwise, can you?

[H8Usernames]

It’s rather interesting to see people deciding to complain about certain long-term situations only when they directly impact one of the sport’s biggest names. Otherwise, they don’t even give those scenarios a second thought.


And to be honest, without intending to defend the utterly rancid WBC, since I find them to be a hideously vile organisation, but it’s far too easy to name fighters that have received title shots (from all the governing bodies) that were inferior (or at least on a par) with Yildrim.

He’s not the worst fighter to have ever laced gloves.

Did I complain?
Did I make those claims about this Yildirim?

You and Gilgamesh both claimed that corruption (i.e. money exchanging hands under the table) allowed Canelo to perform an easy mandatory title defence against a poor opponent.

I was merely pointing out three rather obvious facts, which either directly address your comments or the general sentiments of the forum:

• Yildrim’s WBC mandatory challenger status had nothing to do with Canelo, regardless as to whether your corruption accusations were true or not.
• Yildrim was the mandatory challenger for a very long time, but nobody complained until he became Canelo’s opponent.
• Yildrim isn’t the worst fighter to have ever challenged for a world title.

I’m assuming you’ll agree with all those points, since you can’t honestly pretend otherwise, can you?

Since we are doing the three point agreement thing.

* The wbc would never have stripped Canelo or done anything else to try to force Canelo to make this fight.
* I never made any complaints.
* I never said anything about how good or bad I think Yildrim is as a fighter.
Bonus point * The only reason that this fight took place was because Canelo wanted it to take place.

I’m assuming you’ll agree with all those points, since you can’t honestly pretend otherwise, can you?

[adislav123]

you two really complete each other. a match made in... hell.