The Top 100 Greatest Boxers Pound per Pound of All-Time

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You know who never lost 4 in a row? That's right! Oscarito !! :yay: :bag: :bow:
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Fighters come back. It is in their blood. Especially, when they think it was not over yet. When they believe that they are not done.

After a 2 years with 7 months layoff, Terrible came back from retirement at age 33. Now, this is an age where lots of great boxers are fading and considering that their end of their career is close. It was not different with Terrible. In his mind, he believes that the end is near, but he believes that he has a little more in the tank to call it quits. So, what he did was not a retirement, but a substantial break. Maybe it was to know and to evaluate his chances.

Now, at 33 and at welterweight, he is fighting former WBA World Lightweight Champion Jose Alfaro of Nicaragua. A very decent foe for Terrible to start a comeback.

And in front of his hometown crowd in Monterrey, Mexico, Terrible did not disappoint. He fought like the champion of old. This time, with much more experience. With much more fire. With much more enthusiasm. Terrible, in a great scrap, wins comfortably by unanimous decision. Alfaro was not a joke. He came to fight. But, Terrible was better. End of story.

Terrible advances to 49-6, with 34KOs. He looked fat at welterweight. Will he stay there? We will see.
Alfaro drops to 23-6 with 20 knockouts.


In Morales' next fight, he faces jr welterweight contender from Glasgow, Scotland named Willie Limond. Limond had a record of 33-2, with 9 knockouts. Who did he beat? No one of note. He lost to former champion Amir Khan. That was the only fight of note in a world class stage.

The fight was again in Mexico. It gave Terrible all the confidence he need it again. This time, it was for the WBC Silver Jr Welterweight Championship.

Limond boxed well the first 5 rounds, using excellent boxing skills and movement. But, he began to tire about the 5th round. His legs couldn't carry him anymore and he had to stand and trade with Erik. Morales found an opening on Limond's anatomy and gave a perfect left hook to the liver. Bingo! That was it. Limond went down twice more with the same shot applied by Terrible. And next thing we see, Morales wins by a TKO in 6.

When was the last time Morales won by knockout? It was a long time. It was his first knockout win since October 4, 2003 against former champ Guty Espadas, Jr. And it was also Terrible's second straight win since 2003.

Next for Morales? A try to become the only Mexican fighter of Mexico's great boxing tradition to win a fourth world championship in 4 different weight classes.
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There’s no mystery :lol:
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Wee Tommy wrote: 22 Feb 2021, 06:56 There’s no mystery :lol:
Appalling he keeps calling the great Erik Morales terrible.
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Onetimeonly wrote: 24 Feb 2021, 05:08
Wee Tommy wrote: 22 Feb 2021, 06:56 There’s no mystery :lol:
Appalling he keeps calling the great Erik Morales terrible.
I wonder if Erik will win another title :zzz:
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Watching El Terrible fight with Chino Maidana.
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Everytime I see a DHL delivery truck, I think of Oscar De Ha Loya.
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7 months on the same boxer :witzend:
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tiny_acres wrote: 13 Mar 2021, 13:36 7 months on the same boxer :witzend:
That pace has to slow now that he's started another list.
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Onetimeonly wrote: 13 Mar 2021, 17:00
tiny_acres wrote: 13 Mar 2021, 13:36 7 months on the same boxer :witzend:
That pace has to slow now that he's started another list.
I only check this post around once a month for the simple reason that it has turned into a joke.
7 months per boxer.
100 boxers.
58 plus years. :doh:
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tiny_acres wrote: 13 Mar 2021, 17:07
Onetimeonly wrote: 13 Mar 2021, 17:00
tiny_acres wrote: 13 Mar 2021, 13:36 7 months on the same boxer :witzend:
That pace has to slow now that he's started another list.
I only check this post around once a month for the simple reason that it has turned into a joke.
7 months per boxer.
100 boxers.
58 plus years. :doh:
Lol, Elmer is quite the joke. Always has been.
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Wee Tommy wrote: 24 Feb 2021, 05:23
Onetimeonly wrote: 24 Feb 2021, 05:08
Wee Tommy wrote: 22 Feb 2021, 06:56 There’s no mystery :lol:
Appalling he keeps calling the great Erik Morales terrible.
I wonder if Erik will win another title :zzz:
There is only one way to know; wait for elmer to tell us. He has access to information that the rest of us can only dream of.
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Better be a spot for Roman Gonzalez, he's the greatest under bantam I've ever seen. Way above Ricardo Lopez or, guys Wilde or Perez resume wise.
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There's a strong chance there will be someone making this list who hadn't started his pro career when elmo started the thread.
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Jaywheel wrote: 15 Mar 2021, 10:39 There's a strong chance there will be someone making this list who hadn't started his pro career when elmo started the thread.
There is a strong chance we will all be dead before the list makes it to the top 20
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tiny_acres wrote: 15 Mar 2021, 11:13
Jaywheel wrote: 15 Mar 2021, 10:39 There's a strong chance there will be someone making this list who hadn't started his pro career when elmo started the thread.
There is a strong chance we will all be dead before the list makes it to the top 20
Elmer is already senile.
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Onetimeonly wrote: 24 Feb 2021, 05:08
Wee Tommy wrote: 22 Feb 2021, 06:56 There’s no mystery :lol:
Appalling he keeps calling the great Erik Morales terrible.
I just broke up laughing in a meeting had to excuse myself
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I cannot get enough of El Terrible. Indeed, he is one of the top 10 greatest fighters that Mexico has ever produced. Tijuana's favorite son and greatest fighter, comes back after a 2-year retirement at age 34.

He won the first fight of his comeback by decision. But, in this occasion, he is fighting a tough and young hard-hitting opponent and future two-division champion Marcos "El Chino" Maidana of Santa Fe, Argentina. Maidana had a record of 29-2, with 27 knockouts!

And indeed Maidana hits hard. But, Terrible's chin is one of boxing's all-time best. In the first round, Maidana went into the attack. He threw punches wildly and with non-stop aggression.

The product of that onslaught gave Morales a closing of his right eye. By the end of the fight, Morales' right eye remind us of the great Carmen Basilio's eye in the second fight with the great Sugar Ray Robinson in Chicago back in 1958.

The fight was for the Interim WBA World Jr Welterweight Title. It was a non stop war. Very entertaining to say at least. Morales in my opinion gave the first 4 rounds of the fight, but dominated the middle rounds. But youth and strength prevailed for the Argentinian who fought also like the great ones.

Maidana wins by majority decision: 114-114, 116-112, and 116-112. I scored it 115-114 or 6-5-1 in rounds for Maidana.

Even though Terrible at 34 lost, he looked terrific. Nothing to be ashamed about fighting in his 5th weight class as a pro. He still looking for a fourth world title.
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How many world titles did oscar de la hoya end up with?
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Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: 25 Mar 2021, 23:26 How many world titles did oscar de la hoya end up with?
It does not matter how many titles Oscar won. Many guys has what he has done in the last 20 or 25 years and are not all-time greats.
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However, if you beat a guy that won the vacant NABF championship, that is a big deal. i.e. Duran (who happens to be elmers favorite fighter ) beating the great Ray Lampkin.
No double standard there. :lol:
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elmersalsa wrote: 26 Mar 2021, 08:27
Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: 25 Mar 2021, 23:26 How many world titles did oscar de la hoya end up with?
It does not matter how many titles Oscar won. Many guys has what he has done in the last 20 or 25 years and are not all-time greats.
To my knowledge The only other fighter to win titles in 6 weight classes is Pacquiao.
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Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: 26 Mar 2021, 11:24
elmersalsa wrote: 26 Mar 2021, 08:27
Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: 25 Mar 2021, 23:26 How many world titles did oscar de la hoya end up with?
It does not matter how many titles Oscar won. Many guys has what he has done in the last 20 or 25 years and are not all-time greats.
To my knowledge The only other fighter to win titles in 6 weight classes is Pacquiao.
He is judge accordingly. If it were the 1970s or 80s decade, he probably would not pass the featherweight division, let alone do something at welter.

That comes to show how weak the last 2 decades of boxing has been.
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elmersalsa wrote: 26 Mar 2021, 13:52
Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: 26 Mar 2021, 11:24
elmersalsa wrote: 26 Mar 2021, 08:27

It does not matter how many titles Oscar won. Many guys has what he has done in the last 20 or 25 years and are not all-time greats.
To my knowledge The only other fighter to win titles in 6 weight classes is Pacquiao.
He is judge accordingly. If it were the 1970s or 80s decade, he probably would not pass the featherweight division, let alone do something at welter.

That comes to show how weak the last 2 decades of boxing has been.
Weak doesn't matter when it comes to the great Peter Jackson, Jimmy wilde or pascual Perez. Why penalize the great Oscar delahoya while drooling on those guys? Hypocritical bias? Yup, that's it. Case closed!
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Finally some recognition for the great Oscar in here. :box:
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