SLIMMER ANDY RUIZ WITH CANELO’s TRAINER EDDY REYNOSO RELEASE FIRST VIDEO FROM CAMP

[emallini]

Internet boxing bums are dumb as dust

i still love ya man

Good lad

[lazboy]

Internet boxing bums are dumb as dust

Hi there, what do you mean by that comment. Please note that we are trying to make this boxing forum a safe and inclusive place. Your comments make me feel unsafe.

I will explain in 16 hours

Ok great, I’ve penciled it in. May I bring a support person to this explanation?

[Enlightened-One]

can you post those my bruh, would like to see those too

[margaret thatcher]

i gotta admit, the man has some legs

[Ruthless-RKO]

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he's like one of these instagirls who arch their back, stick their booty out, take 100 shots from the best angle possible, edit it up a bit, then post it acting like they got some amazing ass or something

nah bae, stand back and take that photo from head on. better yet, if you claiming to be slim now too, step on da scale

So very true.

He's clearly holding in his belly in the last photograph, even if he isn't morbidly obese as he was for the Joshua rematch.

I just don't trust Ruiz to turn up on fight night in decent shape.

[gregregegg]

He is 210lbs now. but he will wear a 50lb hat next weigh in so it will say 260 or something... dont be fooled, he is thin and deadly.

[Jeff_lacy_ko]

The old weight under the sombrero con, oldest trick in the book

[margaret thatcher]

[emallini]

Why would he change now? After becoming heavyweight champ and rich while being fat? Makes no sense.

[Enlightened-One]

Why would he change now? After becoming heavyweight champ and rich while being fat? Makes no sense.

I don’t think Andy Ruiz Jr. is actually trying to get “thin”.

I suspect his main objective is to optimise his fitness levels and athleticism, as well as improving his general body composition.

So I suspect he’s only trying to “train” the excess weight off, to eventually weigh in the region of 250lbs, without actually having a fixed target weight.

If he tried to weigh much lighter than that, then he’d lose a lot of muscle, which would be counterproductive.

[ERIC GUY]

Why would he change now? After becoming heavyweight champ and rich while being fat? Makes no sense.

I don’t think Andy Ruiz Jr. is actually trying to get “thin”.

I suspect his main objective is to optimise his fitness levels and athleticism, as well as improving his general body composition.

So I suspect he’s only trying to “train” the excess weight off, to eventually weigh in the region of 250lbs, without actually having a fixed target weight.

If he tried to weigh much lighter than that, then he’d lose a lot of muscle, which would be counterproductive.

you would lose fat!!, not muscle, !! muscles stay the same, simples...

[Enlightened-One]

Why would he change now? After becoming heavyweight champ and rich while being fat? Makes no sense.

I don’t think Andy Ruiz Jr. is actually trying to get “thin”.

I suspect his main objective is to optimise his fitness levels and athleticism, as well as improving his general body composition.

So I suspect he’s only trying to “train” the excess weight off, to eventually weigh in the region of 250lbs, without actually having a fixed target weight.

If he tried to weigh much lighter than that, then he’d lose a lot of muscle, which would be counterproductive.

you would lose fat!!, not muscle, !! muscles stay the same, simples...

Losing a certain amount of muscle mass is unavoidable whenever people lose weight.

If a lot of weight needs to be lost, and very quickly too, then as much as 25% of it will be muscle.

Of course, the slower the weight loss, the less muscle mass will be lost.

People tend to look more muscular after losing weight, because they’ve got less fat concealing their muscle.

[ERIC GUY]

I don’t think Andy Ruiz Jr. is actually trying to get “thin”.

I suspect his main objective is to optimise his fitness levels and athleticism, as well as improving his general body composition.

So I suspect he’s only trying to “train” the excess weight off, to eventually weigh in the region of 250lbs, without actually having a fixed target weight.

If he tried to weigh much lighter than that, then he’d lose a lot of muscle, which would be counterproductive.

you would lose fat!!, not muscle, !! muscles stay the same, simples...

Losing a certain amount of muscle mass is unavoidable whenever people lose weight.

If a lot of weight needs to be lost, and very quickly too, then as much as 25% of it will be muscle.

Of course, the slower the weight loss, the less muscle mass will be lost.

People tend to look more muscular after losing weight, because they’ve got less fat concealing their muscle.

when you talk about muscle mass, the muscles are still there, in bodybuilding, the muscles are there, but extreem reduced fat, if i lost all my body fat, i would look like tarzan, lol, I have been involved in boxing and bodybuilding a very long time, if your training whilst shedding fat, the muscles dont shrink,

[Enlightened-One]

you would lose fat!!, not muscle, !! muscles stay the same, simples...

Losing a certain amount of muscle mass is unavoidable whenever people lose weight (as much as 25% of weight loss can be due to losing muscle mass).

If a lot of weight needs to be lost, and very quickly too, then as much as 25% of it will be muscle.

Of course, the slower the weight loss, the less muscle mass will be lost.

People tend to look more muscular after losing weight, because they’ve got less fat concealing their muscle.

when you talk about muscle mass, the muscles are still there, in bodybuilding, the muscles are there, but extreem reduced fat, if i lost all my body fat, i would look like tarzan, lol, I have been involved in boxing and bodybuilding a very long time, if your training whilst shedding fat, the muscles dont shrink,

If you’re training and shredding, you lose muscle strength and a certain amount of mass.

I’m a powerlifter that has to make weight for the competitions I compete in. I am weaker at my competition weight.

Powerlifting involves strength and technique training.

Bodybuilding involves hypertrophy training for aesthetics, with increased muscle strength being a byproduct of lifting weights.

And if you knew anything about bodybuilding, you’d appreciate that bodybuilders engage in a bulking up phase to intentionally gain weight, with the majority of it being muscle mass.

The subsequent cutting phase, which is focussed on fat loss and improving muscle definition, always results in bodybuilders losing muscle strength.

It’s impossible to lose a significant amount of weight very quickly without losing muscle strength. And for an obese person, that can result in muscle atrophy.

We're discussing Andy Ruiz Jr., so we aren't talking about 10lbs to 15lbs' worth of weight loss, which might only have a trivial affect on muscle strength/mass.

[gregregegg]

Losing a certain amount of muscle mass is unavoidable whenever people lose weight (as much as 25% of weight loss can be due to losing muscle mass).

If a lot of weight needs to be lost, and very quickly too, then as much as 25% of it will be muscle.

Of course, the slower the weight loss, the less muscle mass will be lost.

People tend to look more muscular after losing weight, because they’ve got less fat concealing their muscle.

when you talk about muscle mass, the muscles are still there, in bodybuilding, the muscles are there, but extreem reduced fat, if i lost all my body fat, i would look like tarzan, lol, I have been involved in boxing and bodybuilding a very long time, if your training whilst shedding fat, the muscles dont shrink,

If you’re training and shredding, you lose muscle strength and a certain amount of mass.

I’m a powerlifter that has to make weight for the competitions I compete in. I am weaker at my competition weight.

Powerlifting involves strength and technique training.

Bodybuilding involves hypertrophy training for aesthetics, with increased muscle strength being a byproduct of lifting weights.

And if you knew anything about bodybuilding, you’d appreciate that bodybuilders engage in a bulking up phase to intentionally gain weight, with the majority of it being muscle mass.

The subsequent cutting phase, which is focussed on fat loss and improving muscle definition, always results in bodybuilders losing muscle strength.

It’s impossible to lose a significant amount of weight very quickly without losing muscle strength. And for an obese person, that can result in muscle atrophy.

We're discussing Andy Ruiz Jr., so we aren't talking about 10lbs to 15lbs' worth of weight loss, which might only have a trivial affect on muscle strength/mass.

What you bench tho?

[Enlightened-One]

when you talk about muscle mass, the muscles are still there, in bodybuilding, the muscles are there, but extreem reduced fat, if i lost all my body fat, i would look like tarzan, lol, I have been involved in boxing and bodybuilding a very long time, if your training whilst shedding fat, the muscles dont shrink,

If you’re training and shredding, you lose muscle strength and a certain amount of mass.

I’m a powerlifter that has to make weight for the competitions I compete in. I am weaker at my competition weight.

Powerlifting involves strength and technique training.

Bodybuilding involves hypertrophy training for aesthetics, with increased muscle strength being a byproduct of lifting weights.

And if you knew anything about bodybuilding, you’d appreciate that bodybuilders engage in a bulking up phase to intentionally gain weight, with the majority of it being muscle mass.

The subsequent cutting phase, which is focussed on fat loss and improving muscle definition, always results in bodybuilders losing muscle strength.

It’s impossible to lose a significant amount of weight very quickly without losing muscle strength. And for an obese person, that can result in muscle atrophy.

We're discussing Andy Ruiz Jr., so we aren't talking about 10lbs to 15lbs' worth of weight loss, which might only have a trivial affect on muscle strength/mass.

What you bench tho?

My bench is utter garbage. When the gyms were open I was lifting 105KG's, which is weak for my weight class.

I compensated for my chest weakness with my deadlifts and squats.

That said, I'm probably weaker than a kitten right now, because I haven't had much opportunity to properly lift heavy weights during the last twelve months.

[margaret thatcher]

So you got a strong booty then

[Enlightened-One]

So you got a strong booty then

[ERIC GUY]

Losing a certain amount of muscle mass is unavoidable whenever people lose weight (as much as 25% of weight loss can be due to losing muscle mass).

If a lot of weight needs to be lost, and very quickly too, then as much as 25% of it will be muscle.

Of course, the slower the weight loss, the less muscle mass will be lost.

People tend to look more muscular after losing weight, because they’ve got less fat concealing their muscle.

when you talk about muscle mass, the muscles are still there, in bodybuilding, the muscles are there, but extreem reduced fat, if i lost all my body fat, i would look like tarzan, lol, I have been involved in boxing and bodybuilding a very long time, if your training whilst shedding fat, the muscles dont shrink,

If you’re training and shredding, you lose muscle strength and a certain amount of mass.

I’m a powerlifter that has to make weight for the competitions I compete in. I am weaker at my competition weight.

Powerlifting involves strength and technique training.

Bodybuilding involves hypertrophy training for aesthetics, with increased muscle strength being a byproduct of lifting weights.

And if you knew anything about bodybuilding, you’d appreciate that bodybuilders engage in a bulking up phase to intentionally gain weight, with the majority of it being muscle mass.

The subsequent cutting phase, which is focussed on fat loss and improving muscle definition, always results in bodybuilders losing muscle strength.

It’s impossible to lose a significant amount of weight very quickly without losing muscle strength. And for an obese person, that can result in muscle atrophy.
its not a lot of muscle mass per say, boxers dont rely on mass muscle, as do guys that lift weights, so athletes that do cardio, will lose fat, but not muscle, I guess we can go on all day about this, boxers who use weights get an advantage, because it builds strengh, but not over useage of weight, i spent a lot of time with kerry over 25 years, and see what results are, i have filmed pro bodybuilders dvds, and see how they train,
We're discussing Andy Ruiz Jr., so we aren't talking about 10lbs to 15lbs' worth of weight loss, which might only have a trivial affect on muscle strength/mass.

[Enlightened-One]

its not a lot of muscle mass per say, boxers dont rely on mass muscle, as do guys that lift weights, so athletes that do cardio, will lose fat, but not muscle, I guess we can go on all day about this, boxers who use weights get an advantage, because it builds strengh, but not over useage of weight, i spent a lot of time with kerry over 25 years, and see what results are, i have filmed pro bodybuilders dvds, and see how they train,

I get what you’re saying.

And if we were discussing a fighter only trying to lose 10lbs to 15lbs, that loses the excess weight in the correct manner (i.e. nutrients, training, rate, recovery), then they would very likely experience only a trivial amount of loss in muscle mass and strength.

So we generally agree.

But we’re talking about the morbidly obese Andy Ruiz Jr. He only recently resumed training. And he probably needs to lose 50lbs to 60lbs to be at a relatively healthy weight.

However, for him, in comparison to the AJ fight, he could easily get away with losing only 35lbs to remain competitive against today’s top-ten world-rated big men.

Therefore, Andy Ruiz Jr. will definitely lose some a fair bit of muscle if his training team focuses on weight loss rather than fitness, because he’ll inevitably lose muscle mass/strength which will have an adverse effect on his performance levels.

You’ve got trainers, like Freddie Roach, that have first-hand experience of seeing Andy losing weight too quickly, with them saying he actually performs better when he’s fat.

And that’s kind of the point I’m eluding to. The sports science, coupled with feedback from trainers, explains the reason for my opinion.

[ERIC GUY]

he has had a lot of time to lose weight, over a year, so i would assume he has done it sensibly, and therefore, not so much loss of muscle strengh,

[Enlightened-One]

he has had a lot of time to lose weight, over a year, so i would assume he has done it sensibly, and therefore, not so much loss of muscle strengh,

He’s had a lot of time to lose the weight, but he hasn’t taken it.

He only recently resumed training and is due to face Chris Arreola in a little over a week’s time.

[ERIC GUY]

i heard he lost 40lbs

[Onetimeonly]

i heard he lost 40lbs

Possible, from the 300 he ballooned too.