Evaluation of Nikolai Valuev's career

[Caractacus]

I've been watching the various chronological youtube fights here of his career.
and have noticed that Valuev began wearing the knee-braces on a consistant basis since going into his 43rd fight with
Larry Donald in November 2005. ( at age 32 yrs)
although he can be seen wearing knee braces in one other earlier fight
(his 38th pro fight in February 2004.)
most likely Valuev is a "Macho man" from the old school so most likely he would not have wanted to be seen in the ring with knee braces
( a percieved sign of weakness)unless it was absoutely nessassary.

[Onetimeonly]

Someone that tall isn't made for boxing.

[Caractacus]

Someone that tall isn't made for boxing.

Like what ? would you recommend that he should made a career of becoming a "Plasterer" 25 years ago instead

[Onetimeonly]

No, he made a lot of money. The chances of him coming out of it with knees was zero.

[Caractacus]

September-2007 (49th professional fight)

[BoxBuzz]

I'll say it again, first thing I noticed about the fella was that he was tall.
Not that there's anything wrong with that.

[oogiebe]

I'll say it again, first thing I noticed about the fella was that he was tall.
Not that there's anything wrong with that.

and furry.

[Caractacus]

Yeah, but how about an evaluation of his acting talent ?

[DrDuke]

Yeah, but how about an evaluation of his acting talent ?

I know about this movie, but haven't watched it.

While nowadays he's more of a commentator, then an actor. He often appears on the Russian TV, commenting major bouts. He commented Whyte-Povetkin and recent event with Chudinov and Kharitonov. He was awfully biased there.

[Caractacus]

50TH Professional Fight.
February 2008

[Caractacus]

August 2008-51st proffesional fight.

[Controversial]

Size at HW doesn't matter apparently, Valuev was lucky he was a master boxer with fast hands and superb movement.

[DrDuke]

Size at HW doesn't matter apparently, Valuev was lucky he was a master boxer with fast hands and superb movement.

He also had a variety of punches in his arsenal. He could connect with thunderous 8-10 punch combinations with impressive accuracy.

[margaret thatcher]

Size at HW doesn't matter apparently, Valuev was lucky he was a master boxer with fast hands and superb movement.

[DrDuke]

Talking seriously, in this case size wasn't a much defining factor. Valuev was tracked very cautiously and still he was blowing his opportunities, he was awarded wins on several occasions.

[Controversial]

Talking seriously, in this case size wasn't a much defining factor. Valuev was tracked very cautiously and still he was blowing his opportunities, he was awarded wins on several occasions.

His size made it difficult for opponents though, he didn't have much amateur experience and admitted himself he never liked the sport but was kind of forced into it because he was so big. So considering his lack of background and that he wasn't in great physical condition he done pretty well, all based on him being so huge and heavy.

[DrDuke]

Talking seriously, in this case size wasn't a much defining factor. Valuev was tracked very cautiously and still he was blowing his opportunities, he was awarded wins on several occasions.

His size made it difficult for opponents though, he didn't have much amateur experience and admitted himself he never liked the sport but was kind of forced into it because he was so big. So considering his lack of background and that he wasn't in great physical condition he done pretty well, all based on him being so huge and heavy.

Yeah, mediocre competitors weren't able to do anything because o his size, but that's why they were mediocre. Larry Donald, Chagaev and Haye schooled him confidently. Even completely shot Holyfield did enough to win only to get robbed. Ruiz also could be given decisions in both their fights, but Ruiz had just always been looking like sh!t.

[Onamastus]

Size obviously matters when you're a monster fighting opponents as weak as the vast majority of Valuev's opponents were. It's funny that 'the biggest heavyweight champion ever' could only beat cruisers Ruiz, Holyfield and Haye if the judges gifted him the decision. Add to that Larry Donald and Chagaev and literally every handy, half intelligent fighter he fought beat him.

[Caractacus]

52nd professional fight-December 2008

[pound per pound]

For such a huge man he was really too finesse. More of a boxer than a brawler.
Moderate ability. A top ten talent at best who via favorable promotions had a good career.

He ducked out of a chance to fight Vitaly Klitschko who would have pounded him.

[Caractacus]

if Nikolai Valuev had fought the way Tyson Fury did in the second Wilder fight
( i.e using his huge size and mass to rough up against his opponent along with his superb boxing skills)
he would have retired undefeated.

[oogiebe]

if Nikolai Valuev had fought the way Tyson Fury did in the second Wilder fight
( i.e using his huge size and mass to rough up against his opponent along with his superb boxing skills)
he would have retired undefeated.

He wasn't capable of that.

[skanksta]

if Nikolai Valuev had fought the way Tyson Fury did in the second Wilder fight
( i.e using his huge size and mass to rough up against his opponent along with his superb boxing skills)
he would have retired undefeated.

That's daft because he simply couldn't do that. EVER.

It's amazing he was able to learn to box to a reasonable standard with his tragic medical condition. Have to mention it every time he's discussed - both his parents were 5' 6" !

[DrDuke]

if Nikolai Valuev had fought the way Tyson Fury did in the second Wilder fight
( i.e using his huge size and mass to rough up against his opponent along with his superb boxing skills)
he would have retired undefeated.

He couldn't do that, he could only walk, throw jabs, right hands and one-twos, hug and take punches.

[Caractacus]

but just think if he had learned to use his 322 lbs of Titanic bulk to lean down on the necks of his opponents in close.
they'd all be on their knees by the 8th round.