Enlightened-One wrote: ↑29 Mar 2021, 03:30
Finkel wrote: ↑29 Mar 2021, 02:56Molina (King) was matched with Areola (PBC) who was matched with Stiverne (King) who was matched with Breazeale (PBC) who was matched with Molina (King)
And all of the above were matched with Wilder (PBC)
Now you have Ruiz. Jr. (PBC) being matched with the ever re-heated Areola (PBC) on a PPV! smh
Areola, himself, is a left over from Kownacki (PBC) who is the king of the PBC re-heating merry-go-round.
To be fair, it’s not uncommon for promoters to prefer to orchestrate bouts mainly involving fighters within their own stable.
I think the PBC website lists around 150 fighters and it’s their job to keep their own guys busy.
We also need to remember that Top Rank, GBP, Main Events and the owners of Roc Nation all filed lawsuits against Al Haymon and some of the guys affiliated with the PBC.
Those are all very fair points.
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑29 Mar 2021, 03:35
that pbc in house heavyweight love is sure something though, as noted before with wilder and his all you can eat supply of pbc opponents
they love to spread dat pbc big boi love
Yeah that's pretty much how I feel. My main issue was the PBC took it to a level beyond what is acceptable, especially when you consider the WBC belt is meant to be a "World" title.
candyslim wrote: ↑29 Mar 2021, 03:34
@Finkel: Stupid to take a fight like what, Usyk or Joyce you mean?
Fury and Joshua should, if all goes to plan, have the genuine (not necessarily undisputed) title tied up for the next twelve months so Whyte won't be fighting either of them anytime soon ... unless it all falls apart.
Usyk and Joyce are fighting for the WBO interim belt. Once Joshua v Fury 1 has taken place for the undisputed title, the WBO are almost certainly going to strip the winner of their title and promote Joyce or Usyk to WBO Champion proper i.e. no longer interim.
This gives Whyte an opportunity (if indeed he is given that opportunity) to face Joyce or Usyk for the WBO title which if he were to win, sets him up with a crack at AJ or Fury for the undisputed title in another multi-million pound extravaganza sometime in 2022/3.
I think that's the best he can hope for assuming the Joshua v Fury fights go ahead as planned. As for "letting" Whyte fight whoever he likes, I wouldn't want to be somebody trying to stop him doing just that.
It was more in reference to the idea of him fighting a top 10 opponent. Basically I think it is a bad idea for him to fight a risky opponent when there is very little for him to gain by doing so. However, I think you make an advantageous case for him potentially fighting the winner of Usyk v Joyce.
One sticking point though is the value of the WBO belt/mandatory position is all dependent on the series outcome between Joshua and Fury:
- Fury wins, then Joshua wins - yes Joshua will probably want to reclaim the WBO belt, as Fury will have been the 4 belt undisputed champion, not Joshua.
- Joshua wins, then Fury wins - Is Fury even going to be interested in the WBO belt? And having already achieved his goal of being the first 4 belt undisputed champion, is Joshua?
- Fury wins x 2 - This could be a route back for Joshua, the money he would still no doubt bring will probably tempt the winner of Usyk v Joyce into a voluntary defence.
- Joshua wins x 2 - Again would Joshua still need the WBO belt? Or would he prefer to look to big money fights like finally facing off against Wilder.
I think the trouble the WBO are going to have, is once the undisputed fight happens, stripping their belt from the winner will devalue the belt, potentially making it a second-tier title again. And at that point are WBC going to let the champion fight such a unification and ignore the WBC mandatory?
So, I think the WBC mandatory position will hold better value, which leads us back to the original point:
Is fighting the winner of Usyk v Joyce really beneficial to Whyte (if Whyte is indeed the next WBC mando)?
