De La Hoya Returns - July 3rd

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He’s kept in shape. Currently weighs around 175 pounds..

He can shed more weight though.

He did a mic drop..
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1okstcsb wrote: 26 Mar 2021, 19:37 What weight will the fight be at?
If it is at 147 Terence Crawford makes sense, at 160 Jermall Charlo or GGG would be good. Can De La Hoya still beat them? He has to be close to 50 so it is not a given he could beat those type fighters still.
Bro, wtf? He hasn't fought in 13 years. If he fights this year, he wouldn't even be good enough to beat a #100-ranked opponent. If he got in the ring with Charlo or GGG, he would get paralyzed and killed in the first minute.

If De La Hoya makes a return, it's gotta be against someone who's been retired like Kostya Tszyu, Ricky Hatton, Juan Manuel Marquez, Timothy Bradley, Miguel Cotto, Sergio Martinez, Jermain Taylor, Jose Luis Castillo, Zab Judah, Cory Spinks, Carlos Baldomir, Antonio Margarito, Kelly Pavlik, Winky Wright, etc.
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Lackeos wrote: 27 Mar 2021, 04:48
1okstcsb wrote: 26 Mar 2021, 19:37 What weight will the fight be at?
If it is at 147 Terence Crawford makes sense, at 160 Jermall Charlo or GGG would be good. Can De La Hoya still beat them? He has to be close to 50 so it is not a given he could beat those type fighters still.
Bro, wtf? He hasn't fought in 13 years. If he fights this year, he wouldn't even be good enough to beat a #100-ranked opponent. If he got in the ring with Charlo or GGG, he would get paralyzed and killed in the first minute.

If De La Hoya makes a return, it's gotta be against someone who's been retired like Kostya Tszyu, Ricky Hatton, Juan Manuel Marquez, Timothy Bradley, Miguel Cotto, Sergio Martinez, Jermain Taylor, Jose Luis Castillo, Zab Judah, Cory Spinks, Carlos Baldomir, Antonio Margarito, Kelly Pavlik, Winky Wright, etc.
Or someone that just isn't supposed to be very good in the first place. Like Logan or Jake Paul who are inexplicably huge draws. I reckon because of the kids these days and the YouTube and what not :lol:

I wouldn't mind seeing Oscar face off with any of the names you mention though.
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1okstcsb wrote: 26 Mar 2021, 19:37 What weight will the fight be at?
If it is at 147 Terence Crawford makes sense, at 160 Jermall Charlo or GGG would be good. Can De La Hoya still beat them? He has to be close to 50 so it is not a given he could beat those type fighters still.
It is a given actually. It's a given that he wouldn't win a single round against any of those guys.

He'd have to be crazy to take on a challenge that steep. It would sell due to morbid curiosity, but no he'd have no chance at all of winning those fights.
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I can see why he is doing it - for an, in my opinion, all time great fighter his problems with addiction, his "bizarre dress sense" has kind of diminished his in ring ability and achievements. He seems to be primarily remembered as "Oscar De La Hoya the guy who couldn't cope with retirement" as opposed to the once great boxer.

There have been all of these old guys coming back or considering making a comeback and of the clips I've seen, he does look arguably better than any of them (e.g. Tyson, Nigel Benn).... I hope he can get rid of the stuff in the basement and put on a decent performance and then enjoy retirement more on his terms. Maybe with a win or a close fought defeat (ala Ricky Hatton).

From what I have read he is 168 now and is looking to be fighting at 160 - Noticed that the 160 Mexican champion has a journeyman resume - I've never heard of him, but is someone in his mid 30s - might be a decent fight if DLH wants to try and end with a title (assume he is eligible to fight for the mexican title) unless he does want a side show and fight a retired fighter..... think it would be more winnable than a 42 Mayweather, who could probably still beat 80% of the fighters from 147-160 comfortably.
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stujones wrote: 27 Mar 2021, 07:23 I can see why he is doing it - for an, in my opinion, all time great fighter his problems with addiction, his "bizarre dress sense" has kind of diminished his in ring ability and achievements. He seems to be primarily remembered as "Oscar De La Hoya the guy who couldn't cope with retirement" as opposed to the once great boxer.

There have been all of these old guys coming back or considering making a comeback and of the clips I've seen, he does look arguably better than any of them (e.g. Tyson, Nigel Benn).... I hope he can get rid of the stuff in the basement and put on a decent performance and then enjoy retirement more on his terms. Maybe with a win or a close fought defeat (ala Ricky Hatton).

From what I have read he is 168 now and is looking to be fighting at 160 - Noticed that the 160 Mexican champion has a journeyman resume - I've never heard of him, but is someone in his mid 30s - might be a decent fight if DLH wants to try and end with a title (assume he is eligible to fight for the mexican title) unless he does want a side show and fight a retired fighter..... think it would be more winnable than a 42 Mayweather, who could probably still beat 80% of the fighters from 147-160 comfortably.
Just for the record, Mayweather turned 44 in February.

Delahoya should take on fellow retired boxer "John Duddy" imo.

:box:
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Lackeos wrote: 27 Mar 2021, 04:48 If De La Hoya makes a return, it's gotta be against someone who's been retired like Kostya Tszyu, Ricky Hatton, Juan Manuel Marquez, Timothy Bradley, Miguel Cotto, Sergio Martinez, Jermain Taylor, Jose Luis Castillo, Zab Judah, Cory Spinks, Carlos Baldomir, Antonio Margarito, Kelly Pavlik, Winky Wright, etc.
Kostya Tszyu had bleeding on his brain during his last fight. Carlos Baldomir is in jail. Zab Judah also suffered brain trauma during his last bout. Cory Spinks is someone that youd pay to not see fight, if I had a choice paying 20$ to someone or watching Cory in the ring for 12 rounds id pick losing the 20$.
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proper boxing or exhibition money fights ?
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De La Hoya vs. Mayweather exhibition?
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proper boxing or exhibition money fights ?
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I would take that fight with ODH in a NY minute- maybe he would give an unknown like me (with a decent record) a chance... sort of like Apollo Creed did with Rocky !
July 3rd also ..

coincidence?

I would push to donate a large amount to Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center in NYC as I have done my entire career...
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punchy1 wrote: 27 Mar 2021, 23:01 I would take that fight with ODH in a NY minute- maybe he would give an unknown like me (with a decent record) a chance... sort of like Apollo Creed did with Rocky !
July 3rd also ..

coincidence?

I would push to donate a large amount to Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center in NYC as I have done my entire career...
Whats your record?
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Oscar is not doing it for the Money he’s a rich man he’s doing it for the love of it.
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punchy1 wrote: 27 Mar 2021, 23:01 I would take that fight with ODH in a NY minute- maybe he would give an unknown like me (with a decent record) a chance... sort of like Apollo Creed did with Rocky !
July 3rd also ..

coincidence?

I would push to donate a large amount to Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center in NYC as I have done my entire career...
You should try and get a hold of him punchy I do know Oscar is big on charity.
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https://www.BS.com/de-la-hoyas ... er--156484

Looks like Oscar will be fighting a UFC fighter.
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Perseus wrote: 29 Mar 2021, 01:12 https://www.BS.com/de-la-hoyas-july-3-c ... er--156484

Looks like Oscar will be fighting a UFC fighter.
Honestly, if you give oscar a 20 week camp.. Oscar vs mcgregor would be a fornicating fight... Both would make squillions.
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I am middleweight Bryant "The Spartan" Pappas, 20-2-1, (20 kos), never stopped. - boxrec didn't count my last fight, a tko victory in 7 of an 8 rounder last October. Fight Fax has it listed, however. I have not had the toughest competition to say the least - but I did all this and hold down a full-time job as a Police Officer, and did develop cancer, and underwent 5 months of chemo and surgery after my service at Ground Zero after the Terror Attacks on 9-11-01. That is why I donate my purses to Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center in NYC - I was diagnosed with incurable B Cell Non-Hodgkin's Lymphoma when I was 28 years old. I was told I had about 10 years to live in front of my parents and the young beautiful wife I had married months before. That was 20 years ago. I did 5 months of chemo in 2004 and turned from 3 months after chemo.

I'm a self admitted little guy in the sport that loves the sport that sometimes doesn't love me back. I had a guy you all know who is stepping up and about to fight a huge fight, work a fighter's corner I faced and I believe snuck in worn bag gloves to my opponent, resulting in my suffering horrific facial injuries, I went after the corrupt NYSAC and they had to change their gloving policy and fired the Director Of Boxing and a few others.

I trained at Gleason's Gym for years and learned a lot, even managing fighters now, all the while wondering when, if ever will I get a chance to provide for my family and a chance to really do something big in the sport, as well as Memorial Sloan Kettering, albeit as a huge underdog.

I would relish this opportunity and feel I have paid my dues to the sport and to my country and community. I realize that Jake Paul is a huge social media guy, and that's great, and these UFC guys are as well, but I am from the last of Generation X where we don't do our talking through a computer screen.

I know my boxrec people can probably make this happen for me !
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who was the guy in the corner?
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I won't say it, as I was threatened by lawsuit.. But I believe it was him as he worked for the glove company (that was no longer in business at that time) !
I fought Josh Willaims. So did he.
I am sure you can figure it out lol
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Perseus wrote: 29 Mar 2021, 01:12 https://www.BS.com/de-la-hoyas-july-3-c ... er--156484

Looks like Oscar will be fighting a UFC fighter.
I doubt that. Dana isn't just going to allow one of his guys to fight on triller and he and Dana don't get along. Maybe a former one.
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The article doesn't say "current" UFC fighter.
It will obviously be someone Dana no longer controls.
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Even then it's hard to think of a name to help sell a ppv and fill a football stadium. It's also the week before McGregor and that won't help the buyrate.
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