Top 5 Most Underrated

dmt · Post by **dmt** » 02 Jul 2006, 01:44

i'd go for the following as underated:

Eder Jofre
Ezzard Charles
Jack Dempsey
Marcel Cerdan
Charley Burley
Eddie Booker
Jack Chase
Lloyd Marshall
Holman Williams
Cocoa Kid
Joe Gans
Ike Williams
Beau Jack
Kid Chocolate
Kid Norfolk
Tommy Gibbons
Mike Gibbons
Dick Tiger
Mike McCallum
Kid Gavalin
Bob Montgomery

kick asner · Post by **kick asner** » 02 Jul 2006, 07:32

Sumba Kalamby

dmt · Post by **dmt** » 03 Jul 2006, 05:11

some others:

Michael Spinks
Evander Holyfield
Sambu Kalambay
Wilfred Benitez

BrocktonBlockbuster49 · Post by **BrocktonBlockbuster49** » 03 Jul 2006, 18:52

defintley lloyd marshall! hes grossely underated.

any film of marshall in his prime? ive seen film of marshall in 46 vs a peak ezzard charles and marshall looks damm good, he looks like archie moore the way he moves.

just take a look at lloyd marshals win resume

Charley Burley
Ezzard Charles
Holman Williams
Eddie Booker
Jack Chase
Jake Lamotta
Joey Maxim
Freddie Mills
teddy yarosz
Lou Brouillard
Ken Overlin
anton christaforidas

check out holman williams resume

charley burley
lloyd marshall
cocoa kid
Eddie Booker
archie moore
Jack Chase
aaron tiger wade
bert lytell

thats amazing! he basically beat all of the best black middleweights of the murders row

holman williams is also vastly underated, probably a top 10 middleweight of all time

of course, one of the most underated fighters of all time is jack blackburn, his legend of being such a great trainer, takes away from the fact he was also a great fighter and one of the greatest lightweights of all time

harold johnson is groselly underated. i get the feeling people fail to watch johnson on film, cause if they did they would realize how good he was. he also beat some great fighters and cleaned out a lot of the heavyweight divisisions best contenders.

heres my rankings

1. Jack Blackburn
2. lee Q Murray
3. lloyd marshall
4. holman williams
5. harold johnson

lee Q murray is horribly unknown and as a result horribly underated. lee q murray was a very good fighter, one of the best heavyweight contenders of the 1940s. he most surely would have got a shot at the title if the title hadnt been frozen during WW II. murray was defintley one of the best highly avoided black contenders of that era

just to save u time from checking out lee q murrays impressive win resume......he beat

jimmy bivins 2x
harry bobo
turkey thompspon
hachetman sheppard 4x
buddy walker 3x
big boy brown
Tiger ted lowry 4x
willie reddish draw

some of these guys were not only highly avoided black fighters, they were also some of the best heavyweight contenders of the 1940s

AndreWardFan2006 · Post by **AndreWardFan2006** » 03 Jul 2006, 19:46

Brockton, You sure know your shit, impressive how knowledgeable you are of the old timers.

BoxBuzz · Post by **BoxBuzz** » 03 Jul 2006, 20:15

Hmm not sure if Brockton is using pure "truth in advertising" here for Holman Williams....who was undoubtedly great, but overall I have to say that both Archie and Burley got the best of him in their respective overall series....still he does have wins over both. So if that is the point no harm done.

BrocktonBlockbuster49 · Post by **BrocktonBlockbuster49** » 03 Jul 2006, 21:36

BoxBuzz wrote:Hmm not sure if Brockton is using pure "truth in advertising" here for Holman Williams....who was undoubtedly great, but overall I have to say that both Archie and Burley got the best of him in their respective overall series....still he does have wins over both. So if that is the point no harm done.

williams went 3-3-1 vs burley and burley is undoubtdely a top 10 middle of all time

williams was past his prime when he fought moore

pundit · Post by **pundit** » 03 Jul 2006, 21:48

dmt wrote:i'd go for the following as underated:

Eder Jofre
Ezzard Charles
Jack Dempsey

Dempsey is over- not underrated.

tboy100 · Post by **tboy100** » 04 Jul 2006, 22:16

Horace Notice
Cruz Marcano
Tomas Molinares
Eddie Machen
Ezzard Charles (because of HW career)

Sven Ottke - Ha Ha only kidding (no chance)!!

BrocktonBlockbuster49 · Post by **BrocktonBlockbuster49** » 04 Jul 2006, 23:38

pundit wrote:
dmt wrote:i'd go for the following as underated:

Eder Jofre
Ezzard Charles
Jack Dempsey
Dempsey is over- not underrated.

thats ur opinion. my opinion is jack is very underated. dempsey would have soundily whipped wills too.

dmt · Post by **dmt** » 05 Jul 2006, 00:25

BrocktonBlockbuster49 wrote:defintley lloyd marshall! hes grossely underated.

any film of marshall in his prime? ive seen film of marshall in 46 vs a peak ezzard charles and marshall looks damm good, he looks like archie moore the way he moves.

just take a look at lloyd marshals win resume

Charley Burley
Ezzard Charles
Holman Williams
Eddie Booker
Jack Chase
Jake Lamotta
Joey Maxim
Freddie Mills
teddy yarosz
Lou Brouillard
Ken Overlin
anton christaforidas

check out holman williams resume

charley burley
lloyd marshall
cocoa kid
Eddie Booker
archie moore
Jack Chase
aaron tiger wade
bert lytell

thats amazing! he basically beat all of the best black middleweights of the murders row

holman williams is also vastly underated, probably a top 10 middleweight of all time

of course, one of the most underated fighters of all time is jack blackburn, his legend of being such a great trainer, takes away from the fact he was also a great fighter and one of the greatest lightweights of all time

harold johnson is groselly underated. i get the feeling people fail to watch johnson on film, cause if they did they would realize how good he was. he also beat some great fighters and cleaned out a lot of the heavyweight divisisions best contenders.

heres my rankings

1. Jack Blackburn
2. lee Q Murray
3. lloyd marshall
4. holman williams
5. harold johnson

lee Q murray is horribly unknown and as a result horribly underated. lee q murray was a very good fighter, one of the best heavyweight contenders of the 1940s. he most surely would have got a shot at the title if the title hadnt been frozen during WW II. murray was defintley one of the best highly avoided black contenders of that era

just to save u time from checking out lee q murrays impressive win resume......he beat

jimmy bivins 2x
harry bobo
turkey thompspon
hachetman sheppard 4x
buddy walker 3x
big boy brown
Tiger ted lowry 4x
willie reddish draw

some of these guys were not only highly avoided black fighters, they were also some of the best heavyweight contenders of the 1940s

FANTASTIC POST

RAPID · Post by **RAPID** » 12 Jul 2006, 23:33

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WHY THE ASTONISHMENT WITH THE SELCTION OF
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barry · Post by **barry** » 13 Jul 2006, 02:18

I'd bet the house that ESPN has footage and fights of Marshall...as well as 1000s of other rare fights and fighters...too bad they won't start some kind of PPV website to download the fights.