What happen if Dick Tiger fight the 1980s middleweights?

kovit · Post by **kovit** » 11 Jul 2006, 00:22

I would like to know what happens if Dick Tiger ever fought in the time of "Marvelous" Marvin Hagler, Sugar Ray Leonard, Thomas Hearns, Roberto Duran, Iran Barkley, Frank Tate, Michael Nunn, Sumbu Kalumbay, Alan Minter, Mustafa Hamsho, Fulgencio Obelmejias, William "Caveman" Lee, Robbie Sims, Tony Sibson, Wilford Scypion, Juan Domingo Roldan, John Mugabi, James Shuler, Herol Graham, Julian Jackson, and Mike McCallum?

Arbachakov · Post by **Arbachakov** » 11 Jul 2006, 07:53

Pretty similar to how he did in the '60s i would expect.Win most of them and lose a few.

Ezzard · Post by **Ezzard** » 11 Jul 2006, 08:43

I'd fancy Tiger against most of that list. He was durable and had great stamina. He couldn't always find the one punch KO but still...

Hagler, Hearns and McCallum would all probably beat him. Nunn would possibly beat him too. I would imagine Leonard, Kalambay and Graham bothering him but I'd expect Dick to win those. I think he beats everyone else.

kovit · Post by **kovit** » 13 Jul 2006, 00:14

Tiger couldn't beat Leonard at the 160 pounds because Sugar Ray Leonard would land the faster hands at Tiger and won over Tiger with a decision.

Ezzard · Post by **Ezzard** » 13 Jul 2006, 04:22

kovit wrote:Tiger couldn't beat Leonard at the 160 pounds because Sugar Ray Leonard would land the faster hands at Tiger and won over Tiger with a decision.

Kovit

I don't think Ray had the legs at 160 to fight 15 fierce rounds with Tiger. Ray was getting on by the time he got to MW and he'd be facing a very strong man who could fight all night.

kovit · Post by **kovit** » 13 Jul 2006, 05:37

Leonard still have a legs and he still have the fast hands than Tiger because you ignored his ability.

Ezzard · Post by **Ezzard** » 13 Jul 2006, 05:45

kovit wrote:Leonard still have a legs and he still have the fast hands than Tiger because you ignored his ability.

I agree that he's faster. I imagine he'd be taking rounds early on but Tiger would apply more pressure than Hagler could. Tiger's punch output would be higher and he'd be fighting a guy naturally smaller than him. Alan Sugar, who sparred a lot with Tiger, often talks about Tiger's strength and I think this would have a big outcome on the fight.

I rate Leonard highly but I don't think he was a great MW. He was a good MW, maybe very good, but I think Tiger eventually overruns him.

Woller · Post by **Woller** » 13 Jul 2006, 05:49

SRL against Dick Tiger could be something like the first Emile Griffith v Tiger fight. The lighter and faster man jabbing and moving and getting a close decision.

Woller

Ezzard · Post by **Ezzard** » 13 Jul 2006, 05:59

Woller wrote:SRL against Dick Tiger could be something like the first Emile Griffith v Tiger fight. The lighter and faster man jabbing and moving and getting a close decision.

Woller

Haven't seen that one, Woller, but wasn't there some controversy regarding the decision?

I also think Griffith was a better MW than Leonard. It's a close fight though.

Woller · Post by **Woller** » 13 Jul 2006, 06:42

It was VERY close. In my copy there is only 14 rounds (rd. 5 missing) and I have it 7-7 in rounds, but Griffith scoring a knockdown in the 9th round so he should be the winner. Remember it was in N.Y. scored on a rounds basis, with supplementary point scoring.

Woller