what is the value of going rounds

[margaret thatcher]

ya that's my view as well, going well can have lots of benefits in certain cases............but going easy rounds vs punching bags....eh only limited value there, once you've done it once that's about it

[SticknMove]

ya that's my view as well, going well can have lots of benefits in certain cases............but going easy rounds vs punching bags....eh only limited value there, once you've done it once that's about it

You should get in there a try it....if you have good on ya bruh.

[margaret thatcher]

i did

[Oiky]

Because if it becomes that sort of a fight,where it's drawing out and you need the fitness,stamina and experience,mentally you know you've got it and can do it

Sometimes it's used to cover up a jank performance,but I'd rather know I can do the rounds than going into a fight wondering you need that mental strength in a fight,nervous energy can eat you up,it's one thing to do round after round in a gym and training setting,a whole different ball game in a fight setting

A man needs to know he can get it done,of course you should never doubt yourself anyway as if you do you are in the wrong game,but you still need to know you can grind em out

[dazzler]

The value of going rounds is that the prospect gets well paid to practice in front of a crowd, with a low risk of losing. This requires the cooperation of an opponent selected by a good matchmaker, i.e. a paid loser. Upside for the prospect is preparation for more competitive opponents and an extra win on the record. Upside for the opponent is getting paid to take a beating. This is paid hard sparring to me, and does not deserve to be considered to be sport and count on a competitive record. Prize-fighting yes of course.

[mickey1975]

The value of going rounds is that the prospect gets well paid to practice in front of a crowd, with a low risk of losing. This requires the cooperation of an opponent selected by a good matchmaker, i.e. a paid loser. Upside for the prospect is preparation for more competitive opponents and an extra win on the record. Upside for the opponent is getting paid to take a beating. This is paid hard sparring to me, and does not deserve to be considered to be sport and count on a competitive record. Prize-fighting yes of course.

Well paid? They graft their balls off selling tickets to end up with a few hundred quid. Unless you’re on about Olympians or lads with famous dads.

[dazzler]

The value of going rounds is that the prospect gets well paid to practice in front of a crowd, with a low risk of losing. This requires the cooperation of an opponent selected by a good matchmaker, i.e. a paid loser. Upside for the prospect is preparation for more competitive opponents and an extra win on the record. Upside for the opponent is getting paid to take a beating. This is paid hard sparring to me, and does not deserve to be considered to be sport and count on a competitive record. Prize-fighting yes of course.

Well paid? They graft their balls off selling tickets to end up with a few hundred quid. Unless you’re on about Olympians or lads with famous dads.

Alright badly paid.

[Wee Tommy]

It’s more sociable than drinking on your own.

[Counter-puncher]

It’s more sociable than drinking on your own.

[Neil Gee]

I remember after my first amateur fight my trainer saying those three rounds were worth fifty rounds of sparring, and it seemed to be true, my endurance went through the roof after that bout, but maybe that was something to do with nerves. It's unbelievable the amount of energy that you burn up when you are nervous, and I would never be quite as nervous as that - boxing wise - again.

It's a self evident truth that no amount sparring hones your timing like the real thing, all boxers know that.

[stujones]

Agree with what Coco is saying, but NO fighter is intentionally doing rounds...no fight goes after hurting a fighter "shit" I need to do rounds, I better not follow up the attack.

Yes some fighters might sense and prepare for their opponent having a stamina problem and then start slow (e.g Mayweather vs McGregor) and some might not believe they can KO a grannet chinned fighter....but as Lloyd Honeyghan said "you dont get paid for overtime "

[oogiebe]

Agree with what Coco is saying, but NO fighter is intentionally doing rounds...no fight goes after hurting a fighter "shit" I need to do rounds, I better not follow up the attack.

Yes some fighters might sense and prepare for their opponent having a stamina problem and then start slow (e.g Mayweather vs McGregor) and some might not believe they can KO a grannet chinned fighter....but as Lloyd Honeyghan said "you dont get paid for overtime "

Many matchups of developing fighters are designed to give the young prospect rounds. Fact.

[skanksta]

I think Conor Benn woulda been a lot better served if Vargas had been given a count and lasted more rounds tonight.

[Noxy]

Agree with what Coco is saying, but NO fighter is intentionally doing rounds...no fight goes after hurting a fighter "shit" I need to do rounds, I better not follow up the attack.

Yes some fighters might sense and prepare for their opponent having a stamina problem and then start slow (e.g Mayweather vs McGregor) and some might not believe they can KO a grannet chinned fighter....but as Lloyd Honeyghan said "you dont get paid for overtime "

Not only Lloyd. It’s one of the phrases that are seriously overused.

[Wales]

Agree with what Coco is saying, but NO fighter is intentionally doing rounds...no fight goes after hurting a fighter "shit" I need to do rounds, I better not follow up the attack.

Yes some fighters might sense and prepare for their opponent having a stamina problem and then start slow (e.g Mayweather vs McGregor) and some might not believe they can KO a grannet chinned fighter....but as Lloyd Honeyghan said "you dont get paid for overtime "

I agree in the main. You don’t get paid overtime so if the opportunity comes, take it. However. I went to Haye v Ismael Abdul. It was clear from pretty much the end of the first round that Haye was going into the fight on the back of criticism about his stamina and he was going to do the full 12. And he did.

[SticknMove]

Just adapting from the ams to the pros and everything that comes with it. Simple as that or not.

[Wales]

Just adapting from the ams to the pros and everything that comes with it. Simple as that or not.

I think rarely do fighters look to go rounds if they don’t have to. Haye did it against Abdul but I’m not sure what value there was as he was in complete control. It can’t have been harder than a spar.

Going 12 rounds by your own choice and being dragged into the trenches for 12 rounds is completely different.

If you’re a world class boxer surely you’re fit enough to do 12 rounds. Unless your opponent is going at a ridiculous pace.

[margaret thatcher]

well to be fair to ismael abdoul, check his record, been the distance with a ton of good opponents........gassiev, adamek, huck, enzo, yoan pablo hernandez, perez, glowacki, masternak, cieslak....etc. only stopped once in 99 fights, and that was in the 12th round

its no fluke he's extended so many world level guys, so he could have legitmately extended haye without having to be carried. haye, despite a reputation for excitement, was often super measured and only stepped on the gas when he had a guy badly hurt and ready to go, so a super durable opponent there to survive might not be the best for him to get rid of

[Wales]

well to be fair to ismael abdoul, check his record, been the distance with a ton of good opponents, could have legitmately extended haye without having to be carried

I was ringside . At the time Haye had never gone beyond 8 and his stamina was constantly being questioned.
Going into the fight he was a wrecking ball, but from first bell Haye was completely passive content to just win round after round . I think after about 7/8 rounds people were walking out

[margaret thatcher]

haye's power made him a wrecking ball, but in many many fights he boxes very cautiously and measured until he has the man hurt and going, which is harder to do vs a master journeyman with an iron chin

abdoul is one of the most durable, difficult to stop fighters in years. been the distance with numerous guys who were elite world level and could punch , haye prob just couldnt stop him like they couldnt. haye wasnt so gawdly that no one was capable of extending him at cruiser

[SticknMove]

Just adapting from the ams to the pros and everything that comes with it. Simple as that or not.

I think rarely do fighters look to go rounds if they don’t have to. Haye did it against Abdul but I’m not sure what value there was as he was in complete control. It can’t have been harder than a spar.

Going 12 rounds by your own choice and being dragged into the trenches for 12 rounds is completely different.

If you’re a world class boxer surely you’re fit enough to do 12 rounds. Unless your opponent is going at a ridiculous pace.

Being a world class amateur doesn't guarantee being a world class pro. Doing amateur rounds is different to 12 rounds off the bat with established pros. A progression is needed. Haye learned.

[coghaugen11]

Spars are 16-18oz affairs behind closed doors in front of 3-4 people, usually 6 rounds max.

Fights are 8-10oz affairs in front of tens of thousands, TV crews/cameras, pressure of knowing one punch can change your world, nerves, anxiety, fear, bright lights, heat, opposing corner/team, crowd hostility, opponent knowing one punch can change his world.....

Rounds under pressure after losing energy from nerves you can’t replicate in some gym somewhere. Championship rounds in front of crowds and cameras, with the pressure of judges and a referee, with no headgear, is not the same.

[coghaugen11]

Experience breeds confidence

[mickey1975]

Experience breeds confidence

Unless your opponent has been hypnotised, then you just crumble.

[coghaugen11]

Experience breeds confidence

Unless your opponent has been hypnotised, then you just crumble.

You need help.