Brain trauma and boxing - Your thoughts?

[mickey1975]

Perhaps Chris Eubank Sr is the one who talks best today. In terms of big names being involved in epic wars in the 80s or 90s.

Besides the lisp/whistle.

No he’s very inarticulate and talks rubbish.

[coghaugen11]

Perhaps Chris Eubank Sr is the one who talks best today. In terms of big names being involved in epic wars in the 80s or 90s.

Besides the lisp/whistle.

No he’s very inarticulate and talks rubbish.

He’s the second coming. Always was.

[coghaugen11]

And, deep down, you know it.

[Neil Gee]

If they are making a fuss about players heading a football now then how long do you think boxing has got left in this country, really?

[coghaugen11]

If they are making a fuss about players heading a football now then how long do you think boxing has got left in this country, really?

Forever, because going underground would mean no NHS on hand.

[Boxerbeetle]

If they are making a fuss about players heading a football now then how long do you think boxing has got left in this country, really?

I know what you mean, but surely boxing is different. Footballers can reasonably argue that they didn’t realise heading a ball could result in long term damage, and banning heading wouldn’t be a massively dramatic change to the sport, but everyone knows the risks with boxing upfront.

[Neil Gee]

If they are making a fuss about players heading a football now then how long do you think boxing has got left in this country, really?

Forever, because going underground would mean no NHS on hand.

This is true but what can you do? The authorities think they know best and will ban it regardless.

[Neil Gee]

If they are making a fuss about players heading a football now then how long do you think boxing has got left in this country, really?

I know what you mean, but surely boxing is different. Footballers can reasonably argue that they didn’t realise heading a ball could result in long term damage, and banning heading wouldn’t be a massively dramatic change to the sport, but everyone knows the risks with boxing upfront.

I just see some professor standing up in court (or parliament) with a picture of a skull with a brain reverberating inside it saying 'a blow to the head does this...' and what argument have you got, basically..?

[Boxerbeetle]

If they are making a fuss about players heading a football now then how long do you think boxing has got left in this country, really?

I know what you mean, but surely boxing is different. Footballers can reasonably argue that they didn’t realise heading a ball could result in long term damage, and banning heading wouldn’t be a massively dramatic change to the sport, but everyone knows the risks with boxing upfront.

I just see some professor standing up in court (or parliament) with a picture of a skull with a brain reverberating inside it saying 'a blow to the head does this...' and what argument have you got, basically..?

My argument would be “so what”. People should be allowed to do what they want with their own bodies.

[Neil Gee]

I know what you mean, but surely boxing is different. Footballers can reasonably argue that they didn’t realise heading a ball could result in long term damage, and banning heading wouldn’t be a massively dramatic change to the sport, but everyone knows the risks with boxing upfront.

I just see some professor standing up in court (or parliament) with a picture of a skull with a brain reverberating inside it saying 'a blow to the head does this...' and what argument have you got, basically..?

My argument would be “so what”. People should be allowed to do what they want with their own bodies.

That's what having a government is all about isn't it? We've just seen from the lockdown how little control we have over anything...

[Controversial]

I know what you mean, but surely boxing is different. Footballers can reasonably argue that they didn’t realise heading a ball could result in long term damage, and banning heading wouldn’t be a massively dramatic change to the sport, but everyone knows the risks with boxing upfront.

I just see some professor standing up in court (or parliament) with a picture of a skull with a brain reverberating inside it saying 'a blow to the head does this...' and what argument have you got, basically..?

My argument would be “so what”. People should be allowed to do what they want with their own bodies.

To a point, I guess the argument would be as a child your body is still developing and you are not informed or wise enough to make decisions about activities that can potentially endanger your health. So I could see a time when head shots are banned in the amateur game until a certain age.

In regards to NFL and CTE I found this on wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_N ... phalopathy

"According to 2017 study on brains of deceased gridiron football players, 99% of tested brains of NFL players, 88% of Canadian Football League (CFL) players, 64% of semi-professional players, 91% of college football players, and 21% of high school football players had various stages of CTE."

[Boxerbeetle]

I just see some professor standing up in court (or parliament) with a picture of a skull with a brain reverberating inside it saying 'a blow to the head does this...' and what argument have you got, basically..?

My argument would be “so what”. People should be allowed to do what they want with their own bodies.

To a point, I guess the argument would be as a child your body is still developing and you are not informed or wise enough to make decisions about activities that can potentially endanger your health. So I could see a time when head shots are banned in the amateur game until a certain age.

In regards to NFL and CTE I found this on wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_N ... phalopathy

"According to 2017 study on brains of deceased gridiron football players, 99% of tested brains of NFL players, 88% of Canadian Football League (CFL) players, 64% of semi-professional players, 91% of college football players, and 21% of high school football players had various stages of CTE."

Fair point. In theory, I wouldn’t be opposed to head shots being banned for, say, under 16s.

[Steveh583]

Perhaps Chris Eubank Sr is the one who talks best today. In terms of big names being involved in epic wars in the 80s or 90s.

Besides the lisp/whistle.

the gayness knows no bounds

[coghaugen11]

Perhaps Chris Eubank Sr is the one who talks best today. In terms of big names being involved in epic wars in the 80s or 90s.

Besides the lisp/whistle.

the gayness knows no bounds

How old are you?

[Controversial]

Just been listening to the George Groves podcast with Froch and Groves chatting on the tour about their fights. Froch said after the first fight he was told by a neurologist that his brain scan showed a change and they placed a “watch” on it so they were keeping an eye on it. That would’ve scared the life out of me but Froch signed the rematch.

[big lennox]

Just been listening to the George Groves podcast with Froch and Groves chatting on the tour about their fights. Froch said after the first fight he was told by a neurologist that his brain scan showed a change and they placed a “watch” on it so they were keeping an eye on it. That would’ve scared the life out of me but Froch signed the rematch.

That must have been terrifying.

I'm hoping that now with the Saudi money, and the best are fighting the best, the boxers should go for a smash and grab career: take big fights quickly whilst they are young, pocket the money and get out.

It was hard not to feel sorry for Wilder on Saturday night and I'm not mad keen on Fury vs Uysk 2: that was a super tough fight.

[tonyevs]

It was hard not to feel sorry for Wilder on Saturday night and I'm not mad keen on Fury vs Uysk 2: that was a super tough fight.

Yes - he was clearly out of his lane and facing a thunderous puncher to punish him. How Zhang pounced as Wilder made the mistake and found himself facing away from Zhang was brutal.

[SeanBrennan]

It was hard not to feel sorry for Wilder on Saturday night and I'm not mad keen on Fury vs Uysk 2: that was a super tough fight.

Yes - he was clearly out of his lane and facing a thunderous puncher to punish him. How Zhang pounced as Wilder made the mistake and found himself facing away from Zhang was brutal.

Quite a sad end for him wasn't it.

[margaret thatcher]

that ko is going around the net as a meme now

my favourite was 'when you try to pause the game but y ou're playing online'

it really was like that

id feel worse for wilder if he hadnt spouted crap about wanting to kill opponents before

[coneye]

ITS THERE AND THERES NO DOUBT ABOUT IT .

[Ricky]

Boxing should be banned, without question it should be banned. There are regular deaths in the sport from traumatic fights or powerful head shots, but the OP makes a point about the last effects on the brain of regular punches to the head in sparring and in bouts, there can be no doubt that will adverse affects on the brain down the road. I can only image how many brain cells a guy like Chisora has lost, he must have eaten thousands of shots from the heaviest and hardest hitting guys on planet earth. 3 times he's been in with Tyson Fury for instance, and just walked forward into shuddering shots from a 6ft 9 giant. And for what? To keep us entertained and nothing more?

Boxing for me is a real guilty pleasure, I've been a fan of the sport for a long time now but losing the enjoyment of following the sport prevented just 1 boxer death or 1 early onset of dimension then it's an easy decision imo.

[Boxerbeetle]

Nah definitely shouldn't be banned. Let people make their own choices.

[Ricky]

Nah definitely shouldn't be banned. Let people make their own choices.

Does that pov stretch to include Dana White's "Power slap" league?

[Boxerbeetle]

Nah definitely shouldn't be banned. Let people make their own choices.

Does that pov stretch to include Dana White's "Power slap" league?

Hell yeah. Should be mandatory in schools!

[KiwiRider]

Just a couple of changes need to be made.
Based off the latest scientific studies, the main identified factor is the protective fluid surrounding the brain. Two things act on this, one is dehydration, the second is age causing shrinking of the brain starting at around 35 years old.

So doing weigh ins the week before, the day before, and fight night would help fighters to fight at a weight they are comfortable at.
The second thing would be an age cap at say, 37 maximum.
Just because guys like Zhang are 41 and not experiencing any issues, doesn't mean they won't be dementia riddled by 60.