Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua - 2020 OLD thread

[margaret thatcher]

I just can’t understand people who say Joshua is the one who doesn’t want it. Like him or not, AJ has been moved much much faster in his career than Wilder or Fury ever were, and has never shown any signs of ducking a challenge. Fury, on the other hand, has pulled out of a bunch of fights and goes through long periods of inactivity, and Wilder’s resume is a joke because his team knew he’d probably lose to the first decent guy he faced.

AJ is the people’s champ

agree, aj was moved very fast and ambitiously and has consistenly fought credible opposition. 2.5 years into his career he'd already ko'd Whyte, won the title from martin, and then ko'd big dom, who wilder didnt fight until deontay was a 10 year pro. funny thing is even then it was one of his very best opponents. imagine the reaction if aj were to fight jason gavern or sefer seferi next, cuz these are guys fury and wilder fought after being pro similar/longer than josh has now

funny how an instagram offer etc , from a guy who was moved at a snails pace, convinced so many people that josh was scared or some sh!t. jesus christ, the same people prob bought into the floppy gloves and weighted sombrero nonsense too

Imagine how popular AJ would be if he’d actually won the belts in a stadium in Germany against a 10 year champion then reclaimed them in two fights nobody else wanted in America.

oh sure, but i guess AJ is too mentally strong to go through a depressive, obese, 3 years retirement phase like tyson did. instead aj stayed active fighting good opposition consistently. maybe if he were a mentally weaker man, he could win some more fans through the whole mental health/feel good comeback angle

[mickey1975]

agree, aj was moved very fast and ambitiously and has consistenly fought credible opposition. 2.5 years into his career he'd already ko'd Whyte, won the title from martin, and then ko'd big dom, who wilder didnt fight until deontay was a 10 year pro. funny thing is even then it was one of his very best opponents. imagine the reaction if aj were to fight jason gavern or sefer seferi next, cuz these are guys fury and wilder fought after being pro similar/longer than josh has now

funny how an instagram offer etc , from a guy who was moved at a snails pace, convinced so many people that josh was scared or some sh!t. jesus christ, the same people prob bought into the floppy gloves and weighted sombrero nonsense too

Imagine how popular AJ would be if he’d actually won the belts in a stadium in Germany against a 10 year champion then reclaimed them in two fights nobody else wanted in America.

oh sure, but i guess AJ is too mentally strong to go through a depressive, obese, 3 years retirement phase like tyson did. instead aj stayed active fighting good opposition consistently. maybe if he were a mentally weaker man, he could win some more fans through the whole mental health/feel good comeback angle

His mental strength never stopped his drug dealing or absolute breakdown the first time he fought abroad.

[margaret thatcher]

eh, he came straight back and dominated the guy who beat him, he didnt take 3 years off

[joshj909]

His mental strength never stopped his drug dealing or absolute breakdown the first time he fought abroad.

Is AJ still a drug dealer?

[skanksta]

His mental strength never stopped his drug dealing or absolute breakdown the first time he fought abroad.

Is AJ still a drug dealer?

I'm guessing there's more money in elite heavyweight boxing..

[joshj909]

His mental strength never stopped his drug dealing or absolute breakdown the first time he fought abroad.

Is AJ still a drug dealer?

I'm guessing there's more money in elite heavyweight boxing..

That's probably what made Fury come back aswell. Nothing to do with battling demons. Had to pay off his coke debts.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Tyson Fury: Three or Four Big Offers on The Table For Joshua Fight

WBC heavyweight champion Tyson Fury has confirmed there are 'three or four big offers' on the table for a potential unification with IBF, IBO, WBA, WBO champion Anthony Joshua.

The two champions have both agreed to a two-fight series, targeted to take place in 2021.

But, they have yet to finalize a date or secure a venue.

Both sides are targeting dates in July and several locations are interested in hosting the big fight.

"Just had some big news - three or four big offers on the table. Interest from Saudi Arabia, my gypsy brothers in Qatar, Uzbekistan, Russia, America, England. There's some big, big offers on the table," Fury said.

"I'm going to go through them on Sunday and hopefully we get this big fight on and let me smash this big dosser, big useless dosser let me say. Because when I get him, I'm going to give him [my fist]."

Fury has been applying a lot of pressure on both sides to get a deal done sooner than later.

The 'Gypsy King' has been out of the ring for over a year and his inactivity is growing by the week - which is creating a sense of urgency to return to the ring as soon as possible.

The last time Fury saw action was back in February of 2020, when he stopped Deontay Wilder in seven rounds to capture the WBC title at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas.

For his part, Joshua was in action in December, when he knocked out the IBF's mandatory challenger Kubrat Pulev in nine rounds.

[Counter-puncher]

, my gypsy brothers in Qatar,

[JamesPhilips]

, my gypsy brothers in Qatar,

Did he say that? What did he mean by that?

[Jimmy2020]

Saudi, Qatar, Uzbekistan...

Good to see Eddie not putting a cash grab above human rights....

Putting distance between alleged heroin kingpin Kinehan by holding the fight in global heroin production hotspot, Uzbekistan. Brazen

[gregregegg]

Saudi, Qatar, Uzbekistan...

Good to see Eddie not putting a cash grab above human rights....

Putting distance between alleged heroin kingpin Kinehan by holding the fight in global heroin production hotspot, Uzbekistan. Brazen

mate, if the uzbeks wanna make heroin who are you to say the cant... i back ya uzbeks, grow them poppys.

[coghaugen11]

Imagine how popular AJ would be if he’d actually won the belts in a stadium in Germany against a 10 year champion then reclaimed them in two fights nobody else wanted in America.

oh sure, but i guess AJ is too mentally strong to go through a depressive, obese, 3 years retirement phase like tyson did. instead aj stayed active fighting good opposition consistently. maybe if he were a mentally weaker man, he could win some more fans through the whole mental health/feel good comeback angle

His mental strength never stopped his drug dealing or absolute breakdown the first time he fought abroad.

Eh?

[Ruthless-RKO]

Anthony Joshua vs Tyson Fury potentially heading to Saudi Arabia for July 24 as Spencer Oliver claims date and venue will be confirmed THIS WEEK

Anthony Joshua’s undisputed heavyweight title clash with Tyson Fury could well be heading to Saudi Arabia for July 24.

That’s according to Spencer Oliver, who told talkSPORT 2 he is certain both the date and location for the fight will be confirmed by the end of the week.

The 2012 Olympic Gold medallist dispatched IBF mandatory challenger Kubrat Pulev in December to edge ever closer to a unification bout with fellow Brit Fury.

‘The Gypsy King’ has waited for Joshua ever since February 2020 when he knocked out Deontay Wilder to stake his claim to being the very best heavyweight in the world.

However, the talking will stop and the world will have a definitive answer when they step in the ring to finally crown an undisputed heavyweight champion.

Joshua confirmed he had received the first official offer for the fight on Sunday evening, while Fury admitted he had received offers from a host of nations to host the fight, including Qatar, Saudi Arabia and Uzbekistan.

Although Eddie Hearn and even London Mayor Sadiq Khan confirmed they would love for the fight to be held at Wembley, it is looking ever more likely the first of the two proposed bouts will take place abroad.

And Oliver, who was in the Diriyah Arena to watch ‘AJ’ reclaim the WBO, WBA and IBF titles from Andy Ruiz back in December 2019, believes Saudi Arabia could well be the frontrunner once again.

However, the former European super bantamweight champion believes the British stars could return home for their second bout.

“Both guys were presented the offers, I think they got four offers last night,” the boxer-turned-pundit told Monday’s Sportsday on talkSPORT 2.

“They had to agree to where they would accept the fight to happen. Saudi Arabia, I think Singapore was one of them, United States was one of them and Qatar was another one.

“Like I say, Saudi has got a history of doing fights; they did Andy Ruiz vs Anthony Joshua II and that was really successful, I was out there for the week and they put on a great event. They really loved it and they were keen to get boxing back there.

“So I’ve got a feeling it will end up somewhere like Saudi, but it’s all about the site fees and who pays the most money.

“I saw the statement that Joshua and his management team put out last night saying there has been an offer put in and he seemed excited about it.

“So I think we are going to get news this week… in fact, I know we are going to get news this week.

“By the end of the week, we will know where the fight is happening, we will know when it is happening and I believe July 24 is a good date.

“I believe that it could possibly be July 24 and we will see that fight happen. If the first one does end up abroad, I think we could see the second one here.

“It could be this year as well, maybe some time in December, and we could see it an indoor stadium in somewhere like Cardiff.”

[Ruthless-RKO]

Fury: Joshua Has To Beat Me and Wilder To Be Best of This Era

Win or lose against his domestic rival, WBC champion Tyson Fury would view himself as the best heavyweight fighter of this era.

Fury's handlers are attempting to finalize a full division unification with WBO, WBA, IBF, IBO champion Anthony Joshua.

The two boxers have agreed to take part in a two-fight series. And the first encounter is only missing a concrete date and location - which both sides are currently working on.

Fury, undefeated in 31 fights, shocked the world in 2015 when he traveled to Germany and handed Wladimir Klitschko his first defeat in over a decade.

Fury would not fight again until mid-2018 - as he battled depression and substance abuse issues.

Because all of Fury's belts became vacant, it allowed Joshua to capture his current titles with fights against Klitschko, Charles Martin and Joseph Parker.

Last year, Fury made another statement when he stopped Deontay Wilder in seven rounds to capture the WBC world title.

“When I win I am the best of this era because I beat everyone in it. Klitschko, Wilder and AJ. If AJ wins he will still not have beaten anybody. He has to beat me and Wilder," Fury told Behind The Gloves.

“I don’t think he can beat Deontay Wilder, I have no love for Wilder, I think he is a piece of sh!t dosser but I am the only man who can beat him. I am not a betting man but I would put a lot of money on Wilder beating all the others, including Joshua.

"I have helped [Joshua] become a superstar. He only has his career because of me. I took Klitschko’s belts off him then had my problems and the other guys picked them up. Charles Martin would never have had a world title for AJ to win off of him without me.

“I destroyed Klitschko, mentally, physically and spiritually and took every belt he had. Then they were all taken off of me and other people picked them up. I helped them all become world champions.”

[margaret thatcher]

nah, beating you would be enough

[Ruthless-RKO]

John Fury says Tyson will fight in the summer, with or without Joshua.

[rd350lc]

John Fury says Tyson will fight in the summer, with or without Joshua.

He says a lot of things.
But can't be wasting any more of his prime years ,so I suppose it's a given he will fight regardless .
Just hope it's not some patsy and one of the other contenders .
Whyte would sell a few PPV's .

[JimJim2009]

John Fury says Tyson will fight in the summer, with or without Joshua.

He says a lot of things.
But can't be wasting any more of his prime years ,so I suppose it's a given he will fight regardless .
Just hope it's not some patsy and one of the other contenders .
Whyte would sell a few PPV's .

it surely has to be time for Eddie to go on ifl and say we're nearly there with it

[Twinkle Toes]

Surely an announcement by the weekend or it's not happening.

[gregregegg]

Since when and why is there a date on this thread? Did I miss something?

[knockout]

Surely an announcement by the weekend or it's not happening.

At least an announcement of an announcement

[JamesPhilips]

Surely an announcement by the weekend or it's not happening.

At least an announcement of an announcement

Fury apparently hints Vegas, Raiders stadium.

[Boxerbeetle]

Sounds promising, although could be Hearn talking more shit:

[Terminator666]

“ the site offer” - what’s that

[margaret thatcher]

the offer from the place holding the fight

places like casinos, etc will pay to get the fight at their venue