Usyk vs Joyce ‘at an impasse’ – Fṛḁṅk Wḁṛṛḛṅ

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Usyk vs Joyce ‘at an impasse’ – Fṛḁṅk Wḁṛṛḛṅ

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"Usyk vs Joyce ‘at an impasse’ – Fṛḁṅk Wḁṛṛḛṅ"

Plans for the eagerly-awaited Oleksandr Usyk vs Joe Joyce heavyweight showdown are at an impasse according to Fṛḁṅk Wḁṛṛḛṅ, as negotiations for Tyson Fury vs Anthony Joshua rumble on.

The WBO has ordered Usyk vs Joyce for its interim title and the spot as mandatory challenger for the belt current held by Joshua. If Fury vs Joshua isn’t finalised in a set time period though, the WBO will order Joshua to defend instead against the current mandatory – which is Usyk.

Pretty clear then that former cruiserweight king Usyk (18-0) will not be rushing into a fight with Joyce (12-0) while the slim possibility of going straight to Joshua still exists.
Fury vs Joshua brings impasse

Joyce’s promoter Fṛḁṅk Wḁṛṛḛṅ told BT Sport: “We got him in the position, we lobbied the WBO to get him into the position. The WBO called for the fight to be made between Usyk and Joe for the interim title.

“But everything’s at an impasse now. They’ve give a period of time to allow for the Tyson vs AJ fight to take place. If it doesn’t, then they’re going to to tell AJ that he’s gotta make his defence against his mandatory, who is Usyk.

“So Usyk doesn’t want to be getting involved in an interim – he just wants to go straight for the title. So we’re at a little bit of an impasse. Until we get this fight resolved between Tyson and AJ, we are where we are.

“I think that’s going to come to a head fairly soon. We’ve not had an offer that we feel is suitable. We’re awaiting an amended offer and once we get that, then all the interested parties can consider it. We’ve all got a will to make this fight happen, it’s a no-brainer for us to get it on. But it’s when it goes on, where it goes on and a couple of other issues that need to be resolved.

“Until we get at least a binding deal memo, we are where we are. So unfortunately Joe’s suffering. I wanna get Joe out, he had a good win, I’d have liked him to have fought on Saturday, I’d like to have him out by now. He will be out some time, no doubt about it, in June whatever happens. If it’s Usyk or not, he’ll be out.”

The man Joyce defeated in his last fight – the exciting Daniel Dubois – is also ready to return in a battle for the WBA interim title against Bogdan Dinu on June 5.

Dubois (now 15-1) suffered a fractured eye socket during that shock 10th-round knockout by Joyce, but is now fit again. Wḁṛṛḛṅ remains excited by his future prospects, but does admit ‘Dynamite’ will be under massive pressure to bounce back.

“He’s stepping up to the plate. Looking back to the fight he had with Joe Joyce and the terrible injury he sustained, a lot of people had their views on that – conflicting views. Some people thought that he didn’t have the heart, other people thought he did the right thing.

“He’s got a massive pressure on him now. When he comes back, people are gonna be looking at him even more so than he was as an undefeated fighter after how that fight ended.

“But you’ve got to take your hat off to him because it’s a fight he called for, he wanted, and if he comes through it he becomes the mandatory for the WBA heavyweight title. So everything’s at stake for him, it’s not like he stepped backwards. He’s moving forwards and obviously he’s gotta put the performance in and deliver. So there’s a lot of pressure on him for this fight.”


Thoughts? :confused:
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Daniel Dubois versus Bogdan Dinu for the WBA's world interim title? :confused:

What a joke!!! :brick:

• WBA Super World Champion: Anthony Joshua
• WBA regular World Champion: Trevor Bryan
• WBA interim World Champion: winner of Dubois- Dinu
• WBA Champion in Recess: Mahmoud Charr
• WBA Gold Champion: Robert Helenius

Dinu is a Mark de Mori padded resume journeyman. And Dubois is simply a British domestic level fighter that lost his last outing, with his most recent victory that (by fight night) would have only won one bout in 18 months.
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Fury v Joshua being in limbo is causing the whole division to stalemate
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Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: 22 Apr 2021, 10:18 Fury v Joshua being in limbo is causing the whole division to stalemate
Only for the belts, and most have so many versions and champs, who really cares?
Put two well matched heavies in for 12 rounds and we will see who gives a toss about which belt/version is on the line.
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did anyone else have to google impasse
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KiwiRider wrote: 22 Apr 2021, 14:29
Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: 22 Apr 2021, 10:18 Fury v Joshua being in limbo is causing the whole division to stalemate
Only for the belts, and most have so many versions and champs, who really cares?
Put two well matched heavies in for 12 rounds and we will see who gives a toss about which belt/version is on the line.
totaly agree mate, hontesly couldnt carless if a fight is for a title or not , a good fight is a good fight
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KiwiRider wrote: 22 Apr 2021, 14:29
Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: 22 Apr 2021, 10:18 Fury v Joshua being in limbo is causing the whole division to stalemate
Only for the belts, and most have so many versions and champs, who really cares?
Put two well matched heavies in for 12 rounds and we will see who gives a toss about which belt/version is on the line.
I dont care either but reality is promoters and fighters and networks care
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Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: 22 Apr 2021, 15:13
KiwiRider wrote: 22 Apr 2021, 14:29
Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: 22 Apr 2021, 10:18 Fury v Joshua being in limbo is causing the whole division to stalemate
Only for the belts, and most have so many versions and champs, who really cares?
Put two well matched heavies in for 12 rounds and we will see who gives a toss about which belt/version is on the line.
I dont care either but reality is promoters and fighters and networks care
I also think they care about money.
A good HW match without any title makes good $$$, just ask Mr PPV, Dillian Whyte :lol:
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KiwiRider wrote: 22 Apr 2021, 16:17
Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: 22 Apr 2021, 15:13
KiwiRider wrote: 22 Apr 2021, 14:29

Only for the belts, and most have so many versions and champs, who really cares?
Put two well matched heavies in for 12 rounds and we will see who gives a toss about which belt/version is on the line.
I dont care either but reality is promoters and fighters and networks care
I also think they care about money.
A good HW match without any title makes good $$$, just ask Mr PPV, Dillian Whyte :lol:
but thats the thing kiwi bang on mate those titles dont mean nothing really you can see huge fights without a title , look at ufc i wont lie iam a con mc fan from early on couldnt careless about his titles when watching him fight nate huge fight dont think that was a title,fight then he fought mayweather for nothing in a boxing match huge money fight again no title , titles mean nothing boxing people know who the real champs are
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brilo33 wrote: 22 Apr 2021, 14:32 did anyone else have to google impasse
No.

There's too much money to be made for the WBO to not want their belt to be on the line with AJ-Fury, and Usyk has made all the noises that he doesn't want anything to do with Joyce, so Usyk looks like he'll sit out his mandatory spot until the first AJ-Fury fight is over and then go for the vacant belt.

Nothing really interesting happens until the summer, then.
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Usyk will lose vs AJ but for big money - surely more than he has ever been paid .
He could win or lose vs Joyce for less money so at his age and stage in his career is doing the right thing to hold out for the bigger of these two fights .
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stevec@france wrote: 23 Apr 2021, 08:02 Usyk will lose vs AJ but for big money - surely more than he has ever been paid .
He could win or lose vs Joyce for less money so at his age and stage in his career is doing the right thing to hold out for the bigger of these two fights .
I think he's old and injury ridden, not a real heavyweight, and had done enough to earn a shot at the top. Joyce, win or lose, has far improved since they met as amateurs and is as tough as they come. As much as I like Usyk (and like Joyce more- I have always been very vocal in my support of the guy as a big tough awkward bastard) I can totally understand him sitting this one out until he gets the greatest payday. He was stupidly brave as a cruiserweight, took on every challenge going in everybody's back garden and unified. He's brilliant. Even if he beat Joyce (which I don't think he would at this stage: Joyce despite being older is prime, and Usyk despite having the far better pedigree is not) he'd be damaged goods going into the real title fight: beating this version of JJ will not be an easy task.

Sit on that mandatory and wait, and earn the big money. The guy has been brilliant and earned it.
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