Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Billy Joe Saunders - 8 May 2021

[coghaugen11]

Crawford is a schizophrenic now isn’t he? Or something along those lines?

[Terminator666]

Crawford is a schizophrenic now isn’t he? Or something along those lines?

Is he? Was not aware of that

[Jimmy2020]

Crawford Ashley reckons Saunders can win- can’t say he knows fornicate all about boxing

Crawford says he doesn't "see anything in Canelo" (and he "didn't see anything in Roy Jones" - who he thinks was "manufactured") and the only people who rate him are "so called experts who have never been in the ring".

[coghaugen11]

Crawford is a schizophrenic now isn’t he? Or something along those lines?

Is he? Was not aware of that

Said something like that on his life stories pod thing with Dixon

[coghaugen11]

Chavez Sr named England’s Chris Eubank in ‘93 as his favourite boxer because he was one who made him smile from one ear to the other.

[tonyevs]

I reckon tomorrow there will be a lot of “Billy Joe did much better than I expected” posts

I agree. And I predict it will be from those now predicting an upset win for him ..

[Noxy]

Calm down, the fight hasn’t even happened yet.

[tonyevs]

Crawford Ashley reckons Saunders can win- can’t say he knows fornicate all about boxing

Crawford says he doesn't "see anything in Canelo" (and he "didn't see anything in Roy Jones" - who he thinks was "manufactured") and the only people who rate him are "so called experts who have never been in the ring".

... I guess that Roy Jones jr KO`d the guy who outclassed Crawford Ashley puts that into perspective

[Oiky]

And we get closer,matter of hours

Yup yuuup the Billy Joe Saunders!

[mickey1975]

Crawford is a schizophrenic now isn’t he? Or something along those lines?

He's not. He knocked Eubank about in sparring.

[coghaugen11]

Crawford is a schizophrenic now isn’t he? Or something along those lines?

He's not. He knocked Eubank about in sparring.

CA quit after a day because it was too tough. At the Matchroom gym in Romford in Jan ‘90.

[coghaugen11]

Eubank turned down Ashley as a comeback opponent in ‘96-‘97 though. Maloney was offering Chris a few fights like M Griffin, Ashley and H Graham but there was a dispute from the late 80s with Maloney over money so Eubank turned him down.

Strangely Eubank said the only promoter he feels didn’t take money from him was allegedly. But he felt Warren was always trying to one-up him from the day FW no-showed their first meeting in ‘88.

[mickey1975]

Cog, no offence, but aren't you worried about the Eubank obsession? I mention Henry a lot but i see him most days, this is beyond wierd.

[mickey1975]

Crawford is a schizophrenic now isn’t he? Or something along those lines?

He's not. He knocked Eubank about in sparring.

CA quit after a day because it was too tough. At the Matchroom gym in Romford in Jan ‘90.

I speak to him regularly, that isn't true.

[coghaugen11]

You just brought him up. I corrected you and put you in your place as per usual - I will continue to correct and put you in your place on this board.

[coghaugen11]

He's not. He knocked Eubank about in sparring.

CA quit after a day because it was too tough. At the Matchroom gym in Romford in Jan ‘90.

I speak to him regularly, that isn't true.

If the schizophrenic who believes Canelo and Roy Jones were frauds says so then it must be true. He complained the sparring was too hard so walked.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Stats and Stakes

Saul ‘Canelo’ Alvarez

Age: 30
Titles: Ring/WBC/WBA Super Middleweight (2020-Present, 1 Defense)
Previous Titles: WBC Super Welterweight (2011-13, 6 Defenses); Ring Jr. Middleweight (2013); WBC Middleweight (2015-16, 1 Defense); TBRB Middleweight (2015-17); WBO Jr. Middleweight (2016-17); Ring World Middleweight (2015-18, 2 Defenses); IBF Middleweight (2019); Lineal World Middleweight (2015-20, 4 Defenses); TBRB/Ring/WBC/WBA Middleweight (2018-Present, 1 Defense)
Height: 5’8
Weight: 167 ½ lbs.
Stance: Orthodox
Hails from: Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico
Record: 55-1-2, 37 KO
Press Rankings: #1 (TBRB, ESPN, Boxing News, BoxRec),
Record in Major Title Fights: 15-1-1, 8 KO (16-1-1, 9 KO including WBA sub-title fights)
Last Five Opponents: 144-8-1 (.967)

Notable Outcomes, TBRB and/or Ring Rated Foes: Ryan Rhodes TKO12; Josesito Lopez TKO5; Austin Trout UD12; Floyd Mayweather Jr. L12; Erislandy Lara SD12; Miguel Cotto UD12; Amir Khan KO6; Liam Smith KO9; Gennady Golovkin D12, MD12; Rocky Fielding TKO3; Daniel Jacobs UD12; Sergey Kovalev KO11; Callum Smith UD12

Additional Current/Former Titlists Faced: Miguel Vazquez SD4, UD10; Carlos Baldomir KO6; Lovemore N’Dou UD12; Kermit Cintron TKO5; Shane Mosley UD12; Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. UD12

vs.

Billy Joe Saunders

Age: 31
Title: WBO Super Middleweight (2019-20, 2 Defenses)
Previous Titles: WBO Middleweight (2015-18, 3 Defenses)
Height: 5’11
Weight: 167 ¾ lbs.
Stance: Southpaw
Hails from: Hatfield, Hertfordshire, United Kingdom
Record: 30-0, 14 KO
Press Rankings: #3 (Boxing News, BoxRec), #4 (Ring), #5 (ESPN), #6 (TBRB)
Record in Major Title Fights: 7-0, 1 KO
Last Five Opponents: 164-24-4 (.865)

Notable Outcomes, TBRB and/or Ring Rated Foes: Andy Lee MD12; David Lemieux UD12

Additional Current/Former Titlists Faced: None

[Bard of Boxrec]

Crazy to think that Canelo is still only 30.

[Jimmy2020]

Can anybody cite an example of a MTK fighter losing a close one on the cards?

[Ruthless-RKO]

No more Sky. Free undercard.

From 10:30pm, there will be free live undercard streaming until 1am.. on Matchroom Boxing Youtube page.

They’re doing it as part of Before The Bell.

[coghaugen11]

btw, i dont know if canelo is continually wearing lifts, or if saunders is actually shorter than claimed, but im surprised by how close in height they look. i havent noticed canelo looking shorter compared to his opponents in the ring than he did in press photos, so im inclined to believe it's close to the actual height difference

Saunders certainly looks the naturally bigger man. Taller with bigger frame.

[coghaugen11]

Canelo is more ‘built’ though. Blocky.

[MightyWarrior]

I reckon tomorrow there will be a lot of “Billy Joe did much better than I expected” posts

What's your prediction, mate?

I was thinking about Chavez v Sweet Pea before so had a bit of a surf. I had somehow missed that Pernell had been killed a couple of years back! Anyhow, I think Canelo, like JCC was, is top drawer, the question has to be is Billy in Sweet Pea's league?

Canelo on points, Billy Joe does a lot better than expected - bamboozles the Mex for first half of fight - I don’t think he’ll quit either

[coghaugen11]

Bamboozle as in bounce around like a bunny rabbit... won’t matter, the result matters. And Canelo will leave the ring without a scratch on his face.

[margaret thatcher]

Crawford Ashley reckons Saunders can win- can’t say he knows fornicate all about boxing

if he says canelo has nothing and only arm chair fans rate canelo then i can say he knows f@ck all about canelo

tbh, if that's what craw thinks, it's not an opinion worth taking seriously at all, whether crawford fought or not. loads of fighters say stupid, uninformed stuff all the time. roy jones was being wheeled out by the guys clutching for straws for bill, but he also loved khan to beat canelo

just check the track record of fighters for predictions, scoring, etc....you'll see there's tons of sh!t they serve up too