billy joes statement....

[ShadrachSimmo]

This goes back to the other thread, so does a coach have to ‘teach’ an established fighter things? Or just be someone they feel at ease with in the corner, pointing out if their opponent is open to certain punches etc. In that case does it matter how experienced someone is?

A good coach can fix errors in a fighters learned behaviour, help to bring strategies for particular opponents, and work on improving specific areas of a fighters skillset through training drills.

You're not going to be able to do that without insights gained from experience.

Yeah of course in an ideal situation but it's still a grey area. You could be the most experienced coach in the world, if you have a clash of personalities with a fighter then it's not going to work. Yet a much less experienced coach might work brilliantly with the same fighter and get a lot more from them. So in that instance experience means little. Ronnie Davies had practically zero input mid-round with Eubank and Eubank done what he wanted anyway but it obviously worked for them. Would Eubank have done better under Steward, maybe not as I doubt Steward would've put up with his nonsense. It has to be a two way street.

I agree. In any walk of life you could have all the experience possible whether your building a wall or training someone. If you don’t put in the required effort that experience won’t count for sh1t.

[Controversial]

There’s no other major sport where someone with minimal experience is given one of the biggest athletes globally to train.

I guess it depends on what is defined as minimal experience. In terms of years doing the job or the level of fighter they have worked with? You could be in the army for 30 years and never see any conflict, yet someone else could be in the army for 5 years and posted to several war zones, so who is the more experienced soldier? Similarly some trainers never get a fighter to a world title fight but have been training for donkeys years. So I don't necessarily think just because someone has done a job for a long time they are always better as someone who hasn't. From what I've read about Davidson he's said he's been around boxing since before he could walk and coached world class fighters for a least 5 years, the fighters obviously like something about him.

[handsofstone]

All Mark Tibbs interviews post fight have disappeared, never seen them but from what I gather he insinuated that Saunders wanted out, now the clips are gone and Ben Davison is being claimed as one who made the call to stop the fight, was he even involved? Cant see Tibbs allowing himself to work corner but allowing Davison to call the shots, sounds like Team Saunders trying to change narrative

[Controversial]

All Mark Tibbs interviews post fight have disappeared, never seen them but from what I gather he insinuated that Saunders wanted out, now the clips are gone and Ben Davison is being claimed as one who made the call to stop the fight, was he even involved? Cant see Tibbs allowing himself to work corner but allowing Davison to call the shots, sounds like Team Saunders trying to change narrative

Weird. I saw the behind the gloves one with that Michelle Joy Phelps and Tibbs clearly said he pulled him out. There was another one I heard to where a bloke asked him what was said in the corner and Tibbs said he didn’t want to discuss that but again said it was his decision to pull BJS out.

[mickey1975]

All Mark Tibbs interviews post fight have disappeared, never seen them but from what I gather he insinuated that Saunders wanted out, now the clips are gone and Ben Davison is being claimed as one who made the call to stop the fight, was he even involved? Cant see Tibbs allowing himself to work corner but allowing Davison to call the shots, sounds like Team Saunders trying to change narrative

Tibbs said he didn't like the body language. I didn't even see Davison out there. Shouldn't he have been in Vegas with Taylor?

[AMA93]

Ben Davison is now working Devin Haney's corner for the Linares fight.

[mickey1975]

Ben Davison is now working Devin Haney's corner for the Linares fight.

Credit to him, the lads taking over!

[Controversial]

All Mark Tibbs interviews post fight have disappeared, never seen them

[Twinkle Toes]

All Mark Tibbs interviews post fight have disappeared, never seen them but from what I gather he insinuated that Saunders wanted out, now the clips are gone and Ben Davison is being claimed as one who made the call to stop the fight, was he even involved? Cant see Tibbs allowing himself to work corner but allowing Davison to call the shots, sounds like Team Saunders trying to change narrative

I don't know about the interviews disappearing, but found it strange that Saunders came out and said Davison, who was a second on the night made the call to stop the fight. It went against mostly all of what Tibbs had to say in the few brief interviews he has done since the fight. Tibbs did say prefight that Saunders hadn't turned up to some sessions, so like you. I suspect team broken face are attempting to control the narrative of what they want out there.

And if you've seen every single interview bent legs from ifl has done, you'll see he's well on board with that narrative too.

[mickey1975]

Very strange Davison interview. "I had to tell the lads in the corner"? As if Tibbs would be spoken down to by him. Maybe Billy doesn't like Tibbs is far from a yes man.

[coghaugen11]

Ben recently did an interview with James English saying basically that the vast majority of trainers don’t have a clue what they’re doing.

[handsofstone]

Very strange Davison interview. "I had to tell the lads in the corner"? As if Tibbs would be spoken down to by him. Maybe Billy doesn't like Tibbs is far from a yes man.

Thats what i thought as well, Tibbs doesnt seem the type to tow the line, he's forgotten more than Davison knows, if he's been cast aside from Saunders then hopefully the truth will out

[mickey1975]

Very strange Davison interview. "I had to tell the lads in the corner"? As if Tibbs would be spoken down to by him. Maybe Billy doesn't like Tibbs is far from a yes man.

Thats what i thought as well, Tibbs doesnt seem the type to tow the line, he's forgotten more than Davison knows, if he's been cast aside from Saunders then hopefully the truth will out

Tibbs went all gangster on Chisora once. No way is he taking orders from Ben. Ben shouldn't have even been there, hes got an undisputed next week. Something not right.

[mickey1975]

Ben recently did an interview with James English saying basically that the vast majority of trainers don’t have a clue what they’re doing.

Which is a stupid statement. I could name 50 amateur trainers off the top of my head better qualified than him.

[The Gratest]