lowest winning scores?

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what are some of the lowest scores anyone's ever won a decision with over 10 or 12 rounds, using today's judging system?
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Do you mean like a fight with 10 knockdowns and loads of fouls?
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Peter Quillin vs Hassan Njikam was pretty even, but Njikam was down like 5 or 6 times, so scores was 115-109 or something like that, it was funny fight. Njikam was down so many times in his career but was still able to get up
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Pretty sure the first Dave McCauley v Blanco fight had a 113-112.
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I think 113 is the lowest I remember. Has anyone won with a 112 score?
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This thread has Bennie written all over it :)) eagerly awaiting his input :)
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There was 2 scorecards of 112-113 on the Khan-Peterson match.
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Delta Jay wrote: 15 May 2021, 16:14 Do you mean like a fight with 10 knockdowns and loads of fouls?
ya, so like stuff like 113-112
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Hearns vs Leomard 2 I believe was 113-112, 112-113 and 112-112
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Naito vs Zhong
Yuji Fukuchi 114-110 | Jae Bong Kim 114-111 | Noppharat Sricharoen 113-111

Whilst Kim's cards isn't the running that 113-111 is perhaps worthy of a mention and 114-110 gives an aggregated of 224 (same as 113-111)

The bout had 3 deductions and a KD

John Willer reportedly put in a score of 117-106 for Kittikasem vs Pohan (aggregate of 223 which would be hard to beat)...however the other 2 cards reflect a much closer fight so may be a database error (was an IBF world title bout)

Julio Cesar Vasquez vs. Ronald Wright had a 113-110 (for another 223 aggregate) alongside 114-110 and 115-110

Yuriorkis Gamboa vs. Orlando Salido had a 114-109 (another 223 aggregate) along with 115-109 and 116-109

Edit: now just adding random small ones as as I come across them

Eagle Den Junlaphan vs. Lorenzo Trejo had a pair of 113-112 scores, which I would assume is super rare at 105. Third judge was 114-113.

New one for aggregate score (though not the lowest for the winner)
Manny Pacquiao vs. Chris Algieri
119-103, 119-103 and 120-102 gets us an aggregate of 222 from all 3 judges

Julio Cesar Gonzalez vs. Julian Letterlough
113-110, and 114-109, twice (aggregate 223 from all 3 cards)
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ooh, i found a 111-108 for tsyuoshi hamada over ronnie shields...........though it seems way out of place among the other cards

other judges had 116-111 hamada, then 115-113 shields

https://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Tsuy ... ie_Shields
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margaret thatcher wrote: 16 May 2021, 02:39 ooh, i found a 111-108 for tsyuoshi hamada over ronnie shields

other judges had 116-111 hamada, then 115-113 shields

https://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Tsuy ... ie_Shields
Damn it, I watched that last year and legitimately have NO IDEA how the judge got that 111-108 score. Couldn't find anything from Japanese contemporary sources to suggest it was wrong... But it clearly is...
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maybe the judge just straight up f@cked up. they have his card listed round by round on the boxrec page. it is waaay different than the other 2, so not a genuine case of a guy overcoming a bunch of knockdowns or point deductions
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from a look at the card, seems like that judge was very liberal on using 10-8 rounds

i remember a commentator once did the same for andre dirrell-vs derrick edwards, even with 10-7s for rounds with no knockdowns or fouls, and scored it i think 120-95 dirrell :lol:
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margaret thatcher wrote: 16 May 2021, 02:42 maybe the judge just straight up f@cked up. they have his card listed round by round on the boxrec page. it is waaay different than the other 2, so not a genuine case of a guy overcoming a bunch of knockdowns or point deductions
Rounds 3 and 9 had legit deductions IIRC, but everything else is is just him making up his own scoring method
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Tyson-Ruddock ll had 113-109 and 2 x 114-108.
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Boxing Prospect wrote: 16 May 2021, 02:19 Naito vs Zhong
Yuji Fukuchi 114-110 | Jae Bong Kim 114-111 | Noppharat Sricharoen 113-111

Whilst Kim's cards isn't the running that 113-111 is perhaps worthy of a mention and 114-110 gives an aggregated of 224 (same as 113-111)

The bout had 3 deductions and a KD

John Willer reportedly put in a score of 117-106 for Kittikasem vs Pohan (aggregate of 223 which would be hard to beat)...however the other 2 cards reflect a much closer fight so may be a database error (was an IBF world title bout)

Julio Cesar Vasquez vs. Ronald Wright had a 113-110 (for another 223 aggregate) alongside 114-110 and 115-110

Yuriorkis Gamboa vs. Orlando Salido had a 114-109 (another 223 aggregate) along with 115-109 and 116-109

Edit: now just adding random small ones as as I come across them

Eagle Den Junlaphan vs. Lorenzo Trejo had a pair of 113-112 scores, which I would assume is super rare at 105. Third judge was 114-113.

New one for aggregate score (though not the lowest for the winner)
Manny Pacquiao vs. Chris Algieri
119-103, 119-103 and 120-102 gets us an aggregate of 222 from all 3 judges

Julio Cesar Gonzalez vs. Julian Letterlough
113-110, and 114-109, twice (aggregate 223 from all 3 cards)
Well done BP, knowledge is power
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It's a shame Beppu vs Yada ended in round 10 had it completed the 12 round schedule we could have been in for a record setter. Was 85-80 on all 3 cards after 9 rounds. Beppu was done like 4 times IIRC and Yada down once, before being stopped with some ugly swelling.

Could have been something between 115-107 and 112-110 had we seen that complete the distance.

Anyone who hasn't seen it owes it to themselves to watch it.

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Completely ignored 10 rounders so far, but here's one
David Lemieux vs. Maksym Bursak - 94-93, 94-93, 93-94 (187 aggregate)

Evander Holyfield vs. Lou Savarese had one judge put in a 96-91 score card (like the above an aggregate of 187)
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random bump, but i noticed this fight https://boxrec.com/en/event/829475/2649015

guy wins 10 rounder with 2 scores of 92-91..........7 knockdowns total, with the winner down 4 times
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margaret thatcher wrote: 16 Apr 2022, 03:42 random bump, but i noticed this fight https://boxrec.com/en/event/829475/2649015

guy wins 10 rounder with 2 scores of 92-91..........7 knockdowns total, with the winner down 4 times



Nowhere near as good as it looked on paper. Most of the KDs were bad reffing. I honestly regret looking it up :lol:
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Khan v Maidana was low scoring.
113-112.
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Dioufy wrote: 17 Apr 2022, 07:12 Khan v Maidana was low scoring.
113-112.
Wasn’t Khan-Peterson low too.
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 17 Apr 2022, 07:36
Dioufy wrote: 17 Apr 2022, 07:12 Khan v Maidana was low scoring.
113-112.
Wasn’t Khan-Peterson low too.
Yeah. Can’t remember that well but wasn’t there an early knockdown for Khan and 2 points off?
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Dioufy wrote: 17 Apr 2022, 07:39
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 17 Apr 2022, 07:36
Dioufy wrote: 17 Apr 2022, 07:12 Khan v Maidana was low scoring.
113-112.
Wasn’t Khan-Peterson low too.
Yeah. Can’t remember that well but wasn’t there an early knockdown for Khan and 2 points off?
Yeh there was
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knockout wrote: 15 May 2021, 17:46 This thread has Bennie written all over it :)) eagerly awaiting his input :)
I am clueless on this one, mate. I remember one judge scored all 12 rounds even when Duke McKenzie fought in Italy back in 1986 but that, of course, makes it 120-120. The only low scores I remember came in the amateur code when Mark Epton pulled off a shock win over John Lyon at the old Liverpool Stadium in 1985 (one judge gave it to Epton by 60-52) and when southpaw American Robin Blake dished out a three-round beating to Bradford's Craig Walsh in the late 1970s in London.
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