Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua - 2020 OLD thread

[garethhop]

I find it odd reading that interview that with the venue unknown, and this isn't about it being this US indoor arena or that US indoor arena, and then funding and Wilder issue not sorted, that anyone should expect an announcement imminently?

Posted this last week. Nothing's changed other than Wilder picture now clearer and the money side still isn't confirmed.

Every one needs to move on and when the fight is signed, they can let us all know.

[garethhop]

Why doesn't he go the whole hog and get a Union Jack behind him ?....

[Roco]

If I were Eddie, I would publicly offer Deontay a massive purse to fight on the AJ/Fury undercard, chief support, for a bumper payday with a 2022 title shot on the table too. Everyone wins. Deontay turns 36 in October, not ancient for a heavyweight but he's not getting any younger or better. They should offer to make him a part of the promotion. It would up the ante on Deontay, who has to be careful as he shredded his credibility since losing to Fury and will really become a black sheep of the sport if he is the reason why Fury vs AJ does not go ahead this summer. Short of landing a hayemaker, he would lose again to Fury and be finished at the top level, and would be regarded not too well as he headed into retirement.

Really like this Wilder v Whyte on undercard and Joyce v Usyk. Hell, I might even be tempted to buy it.

[jameswilson]

If I were Eddie, I would publicly offer Deontay a massive purse to fight on the AJ/Fury undercard, chief support, for a bumper payday with a 2022 title shot on the table too. Everyone wins. Deontay turns 36 in October, not ancient for a heavyweight but he's not getting any younger or better. They should offer to make him a part of the promotion. It would up the ante on Deontay, who has to be careful as he shredded his credibility since losing to Fury and will really become a black sheep of the sport if he is the reason why Fury vs AJ does not go ahead this summer. Short of landing a hayemaker, he would lose again to Fury and be finished at the top level, and would be regarded not too well as he headed into retirement.

Really like this Wilder v Whyte on undercard and Joyce v Usyk. Hell, I might even be tempted to buy it.

Ordinarily there wouldn’t be enough money for that kind of undercard but with there apparently being $5 million for the undercard one of those fights could definitely be made there. I’d say Joyce and Usyk would take a million dollars each for their interim title fight.

[Ruthless-RKO]

[jamesmcdonnell]

I don't believe wilder wants the shot, he did very little to make it happen after he got beat.

He will angle for a massive step aside fee, and fade into the background.

[maverick23]

If I were Eddie, I would publicly offer Deontay a massive purse to fight on the AJ/Fury undercard, chief support, for a bumper payday with a 2022 title shot on the table too. Everyone wins. Deontay turns 36 in October, not ancient for a heavyweight but he's not getting any younger or better. They should offer to make him a part of the promotion. It would up the ante on Deontay, who has to be careful as he shredded his credibility since losing to Fury and will really become a black sheep of the sport if he is the reason why Fury vs AJ does not go ahead this summer. Short of landing a hayemaker, he would lose again to Fury and be finished at the top level, and would be regarded not too well as he headed into retirement.

Really like this Wilder v Whyte on undercard and Joyce v Usyk. Hell, I might even be tempted to buy it.

Ordinarily there wouldn’t be enough money for that kind of undercard but with there apparently being $5 million for the undercard one of those fights could definitely be made there. I’d say Joyce and Usyk would take a million dollars each for their interim title fight.

Usyk’s been on big money. $1m wouldn’t be enough for him. He would have probably got double that to fight Chisora.

[Coco]

Wilder will prob get 25 million for stepping aside, he knows what he is doing. The last thing he wants to do is fight Fury again, esp when he would get 10 million max for the fight.

[mickey1975]

Mind your business Mickey and stop derailing threads all the time.

Welcome to my ignore list.

Well, I was a schoolboy boxer, trained at York, then followed my friend to Hunslet which had 5 champions in. Also sparred at St Pat's with my close friends. Been in the dressing room at British, commonwealth, European and world title fights.... taken my nephew to spar at Vulcan in Hull, if you want to talk about deprived areas, with undefeated pro Sonny Taylor.... my username isn't a mystery.....

[gregregegg]

Don't see the point in Wilder taking step aside money. If Joshua and Fury have two fights he would be left waiting and also If Joshua beats fury he takes the belt and then no point in fighting Fury, unless he can definitely guarantee a crack at the winner of Josh/Fury.

Depends what he can get, 5 million and no promise of a fight obviously not, 25 million and a promise of fight by say summer 2022... then fornicate take a few tune ups...

There is no right or wrong answer on step aside or not, until you know the exact deal. what if the saudi prince thought losing this fight would make him look weak so just threw a laughable 50 million step aside at wilder? Still wouldent see a point?

[coneye]

If the abitration says they must fight by sept What happens if Hearn , Arum , Warren ,don't want to promote it , or if they do and offer a small purse . whereas Wilder refuses.. After all theres no law says promoters have to pay him millions ,

[Roco]

Don't see the point in Wilder taking step aside money. If Joshua and Fury have two fights he would be left waiting and also If Joshua beats fury he takes the belt and then no point in fighting Fury, unless he can definitely guarantee a crack at the winner of Josh/Fury.

Depends what he can get, 5 million and no promise of a fight obviously not, 25 million and a promise of fight by say summer 2022... then fornicate take a few tune ups...

There is no right or wrong answer on step aside or not, until you know the exact deal. what if the saudi prince thought losing this fight would make him look weak so just threw a laughable 50 million step aside at wilder? Still wouldent see a point?

If he accepts the step aside money with no guarantee of facing winner then I would say that he doesn't care about being the champ or knows he is not the best

[Ruthless-RKO]

GoFundMe page set up for Deontay Wilder step aside money

https://www.gofundme.com/f/pay-deontay- ... ce=twitter

With a long-standing legal battle involving Deontay Wilder threatening to derail Tyson Fury vs Anthony Joshua, one fan has taken it upon himself to ensure it goes ahead by setting up a GoFundMe page for The Bronze Bomber.

Wilder has always been adamant he was owed a trilogy fight with Fury, as stipulated in their contracts, and was furious a third fight had been shelved for the Gypsy King's clash with Joshua.

With a date on August 14 agreed for one of the biggest fights in British boxing history, there is now doubt whether the event in Saudi Arabia will go ahead after a judge ruled in Wilder's favour that Fury owes him another fight.

Wilder is said to be wanting a staggering £14 million ($20 million) pay-off to drop the matter, leaving the whole situation up in the air as any fight between Wilder and Fury has to take place before September 15.

In order to make Wilder go quietly and ensure the Fury vs AJ fight goes ahead as planned, one boxing fan has created a GoFundMe page for fellow fans to donate enough money to hopefully satisfy Wilder's needs.

The creator, Greg Double, wrote: "We all want to see Anthony Joshua vs Tyson Fury. Unfortunately, the sport of boxing can be AC-12 levels of bent.

"A US Court has now decided Fury has to fight Deontay Wilder for a third time, this means the Joshua-Fury fight could be postponed.

"However, there's still hope of saving it. Deontay Wilder could be paid 'step-aside' money - essentially a big wedge of cash to get out of the way of this all-British superfight.

"If 100,000 boxing fans chip in a tenner - and let's face it, we're used to being ripped off - we can offer him a million quid to get out of the way.

"Not only will it offer an incentive, it will send a message. The fans don't want to see any other fight."

If Wilder declines the amount donated and wishes to proceed with his own battle with Fury, Double has said he will give the money to Boxing Futures project.

Double added: "Whatever money we raise will be offered up to Deontay Wilder. If he declines, I will donate all proceeds to https://boxing-futures.org.uk/ - a charity that uses boxing to help young people fulfil their potential.

[gregregegg]

Yea poor Tyson fury, bob arum, AJ and Eddie, how could they possibly pay the step aside money, no dramas I’ll get out my cheque book....

[doctorboxing]

Donate money to Deontay Wilder?

Eddie, Bob, Joshua and Fury have enough money to sort this out if they really want to.

[maverick23]

Bob won’t give money to Wilder, FW likely doesn’t have the money and Tyson’s given more his to charity so there’s no way Deontay’s getting the money he wants to step aside.

It must piss Tyson off to give Wilder another payday given what he said after their last fight. I bet he’s also not too happy with Bob/FW (mostly Bob as it was him who kept saying that he had nothing to worry about publicly) as he could have just fought Wilder 6 months ago.

[Ruthless-RKO]

[skanksta]

Wilder is such bell-end.

All he ever wanted was step aside money. I don't blame him for that, but what a way to go about it.

Ruining everything and whining like an itchbay.
Give him a few quid and let him fight Babic on the undercard ffs.

[Ruthless-RKO]

WBO have given all parties 48 hours, or they will order AJ-Usyk.

[keirw]

If the abitration says they must fight by sept What happens if Hearn , Arum , Warren ,don't want to promote it , or if they do and offer a small purse . whereas Wilder refuses.. After all theres no law says promoters have to pay him millions ,

If the court of arbitration force the WBC to mandate it then it may go to purse bids. Not sure if Wilder is still with Haymon, but if he is then I imagine he will put in a solid bid and Wilder will still get paid well.

He probably would have got more if he was willing to play the long game and pick up a few wins(maybe even one of the vacant belts after they fragment) whilst loudly calling both fighters out and setting himself up for a big PPV fight with the winner down the line.

But I suppose it is as much about pride than anything, he clearly feels hard done by and the court obviously agrees with him.

[morm]

Wilder is such bell-end.

All he ever wanted was step aside money. I don't blame him for that, but what a way to go about it.

Ruining everything and whining like an itchbay.
Give him a few quid and let him fight Babic on the undercard ffs.

Yeah give him Babic , 1 or 2 round or i quit boxing says Savage

[margaret thatcher]

let's be honest, wilder shouldnt really get any blame here, it should be fury and his team for whoring themself out to wilder an basically making themselves his bitch with all the rematch clauses

[maverick23]

I see whoever runs AJ's twitter is active today. AJ's team and Hearn are experts with the media. They knew the arbitration was going on and this could happen, 1000000%.

I’m sure they knew it was a possibility but they likely thought it was remote. Every single interview Bob’s done in the last 9 months discussing Fury he’s said that’s it’s not an issue and won’t stop them from fighting someone else/AJ - he was wrong and Tyson should be fuming about it.

[keirw]

It is odd that Arum got it so wrong, given his vast experience in both the sport and as a lawyer.

Hearn is nobody's fool and has no doubt had a back up plan in place since day one, but I'm sure he (like the rest of us) took Arum's word for it when he stated that the arbitration case won't be an issue.

Nobody involved with the AJ/Fury fight wanted or expected this to happen.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Warren on Fury-Joshua: In Future, Everyone Should Keep Mouths Shut Until It's Signed

Frank W, co-promoter for WBC heavyweight champion Tyson Fury, is taking no blame for the issues with finalizing a high stakes unification with IBF, IBO, WBA, WBO champion Anthony Joshua.

Last month. the fight was nearing an agreement for August 14 in Saudi Arabia.

However, an arbitrator ordered Fury to honor a rematch clause that was due to Deontay Wilder.

The contractual clause stems from their encounter in February 2020, when Fury stopped Wilder in seven rounds to capture the WBC title.

Their third fight is now set for July 24 in Las Vegas.

John Fury, father of Tyson, recently conducted an interview with BT Sport - where he blamed his son's promoters, Warren and Bob Arum of Top Rank, for failing to finalize the deal with Joshua.

But, both sides were well aware that Wilder had an active legal action to enforce the rematch clause.

Warren explains that everyone should have stayed quiet - and strongly felt that Joshua's promoter, Eddie Hearn of Matchroom, had a breached a confidentiality agreement by discussing the negotiations on a weekly basis.

If everyone had stayed quiet, says Warren, there would not have been such a strong backlash when Fury-Joshua fell apart.

"I don't accept any blame at all. So don't come dumping anything on my doorstep. Everyone's frustrated, but I'm sick to death of talking about the same bullsh-t all the time," Warren told IFL TV.

"[In future] just keep your mouth shut until something is signed. With a fight of this magnitude, until it's signed and all the obstacles are cleared, why make statements about it?"